Death Penalty for Abortion

Would you support the death penalty for abortion?


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Cearbhall

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Of course it is, if it involves murdering the baby.
Murder is a legal term for illegal killing. A baby is a human who has been born. You are describing infanticide.

So no, it's not a convincing argument to tell me that a legal instance of killing is somehow automatically wrong. Nor is it up to you whether it convinced me of anything. It did not.
 
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Murder is a legal term for illegal killing. A baby is a human who has been born. You are describing infanticide.

So no, it's not a convincing argument to tell me that a legal instance of killing is somehow automatically wrong.


No, a baby is still a baby before being born. You are just refusing to recognize his humanity. Therefore it is immoral, if (repugnantly)legal.
 
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No, a baby is still a baby before being born. You are just refusing to recognize his humanity.
Erm, no. A fetus is every bit as human as a baby is. I'm well aware that we're discussing a homo sapiens fetus and not a member of an alien species that magically becomes human at birth.

In casual talk, yes, I would respectfully refer to a fetus as a baby. Medically, no, the term refers to a human who has been born.
 
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Erm, no. A fetus is every bit as human as a baby is. I'm well aware that we're discussing a homo sapiens fetus and not a member of an alien species that magically becomes human at birth.
Well good. But somehow you find it moral to kill him
 
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Well good. But somehow you find it moral to kill him
I'd say I'm rather morally neutral on the subject, which is why I'm pro-choice. I don't feel confident enough in my arguments one way or another to make the decision for other people. No criminalization, but no one-child policy, either.
 
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I am a conscientious objector to war with 3 1/2 years service in the USMC and a Good Conduct medal and a Top Secret security clearance and numerous awards. I get no veterans benefits and deserve none. I am the ONLY USMC NCO discharged as a conscientious objector to war ever!

I don't know what this is even referring to, but ok.
 
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I know many on these forums support the death penalty for murder. Also many consider abortion to be murder. For those that believe both...do you support the execution of a woman that had an abortion performed? How about execution for the physician and any other medical staff that were involved?

No I would not. It should be saved for the person who murders the baby.
 
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Abortion is already a death penalty... for someone who is innocent and unable to defend themselves in any way.

That is right and we are the only species on the planet that deliberately murder our own.
 
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I'd say I'm rather morally neutral on the subject, which is why I'm pro-choice. I don't feel confident enough in my arguments one way or another to make the decision for other people. No criminalization, but no one-child policy, either.

The facts are that pro-choice is a misnomer. Most women who have abortions do not get a choice. They are forced into it by husbands, boyfriends, parents or the abortion provider. One survey conducted found that 90% of the women who had an abortion were forced into it.
 
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The facts are that pro-choice is a misnomer. Most women who have abortions do not get a choice. They are forced into it by husbands, boyfriends, parents or the abortion provider. One survey conducted found that 90% of the women who had an abortion were forced into it.
What legislation would you propose to improve this?
 
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If it means that we do not murder innocent, defenseless babies in the womb, lets go back now.

First off you're for the death penalty for innocent women? And you feel as though we would murder people LESS in a time when the Crusades were a thing? And women were burned at the stake for being witches? What's wrong with you?

And it makes you think that people who have no problem killing innocent defenseless babies can vote.

Second, you do know that they're not babies when they're aborted.

And third, that we don't just throw the fetus/zygote in the trash afterward. In fact it helps save lives with valuable medical advances.
 
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The facts are that pro-choice is a misnomer. Most women who have abortions do not get a choice. They are forced into it by husbands, boyfriends, parents or the abortion provider. One survey conducted found that 90% of the women who had an abortion were forced into it.

Show me this survey. Because I'm calling BS.
 
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If it means that we do not murder innocent, defenseless babies in the womb, lets go back now.
Except people were killing their babies. Before abortions were legal. Which sometimes ended with mom harmed or dead.
 
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