When bigots use ISIS atrocities to smear all Muslims

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How long did we remain in Germany?
How long did we remain in Japan?
Look how long it too US to stop fighting among ourselves... oh wait.... some of us still are.

If you don't understand the historical differences between well established countries such as Japan / Germany vs a country such as Iraq, I will not waste my time further.

Bottom line: We gave the Iraqi's chance while spending much blood and treasure. No external force will ever solve the enmity between Shia and Sunni, not to mention the myriad of cultural difference that make up Iraq.

And it's certainly not the responsibility of the US Military to maintain security indefinitely while the Iraq's figure out how to govern themselves.
 
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You've really got to get over this idea that militant Islam poses any sort of a threat to the West.
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No threat whatever. How's the weather in your strange, unfamiliar world?
 
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If you don't understand the historical differences between well established countries such as Japan / Germany vs a country such as Iraq, I will not waste my time further.
If you don't understand the threat of radical Islam I won't further waste my time.
Bottom line: We gave the Iraqi's chance while spending much blood and treasure. No external force will ever solve the enmity between Shia and Sunni, not to mention the myriad of cultural difference that make up Iraq.
Bottom line. Nobody cares if they make war with each other. They are murdering innocents in the name of their false religion and planning to impose global sharia law. I understand Obummer is clueless about the threat, but i expected more of thinking, rational people.
 
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If you don't understand the threat of radical Islam I won't further waste my time.

Bottom line. Nobody cares if they make war with each other. They are murdering innocents in the name of their false religion and planning to impose global sharia law. I understand Obummer is clueless about the threat, but i expected more of thinking, rational people.

We care if our troops are in the middle - or at least I do.
If the US had based its 9/11 response on the actual threat, ISIS would not exist today.
 
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It is not vilifying Islam to speak the truth; that it is the false religion of a false prophet that leads its followers to destruction.
See, I think this is the big difference between the two mindsets. As an atheist, I look at Islamic terrorism and just see the product of a radical religious sect combined with mental illness, problematic cultural norms, and economic disaster. Same as radical Christianity. I don't see people being controlled by demons in a false religion or being led by Satan, so I don't see anything wrong with Muslims and Christians who aren't doing anything wrong. Some people are getting brainwashed, but that doesn't magically do anything to every member of the same religion around the world.
 
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we should not deport people based on their religion.
Wrong. We should deport people based on their religion when the religion is a violent one like Islam. The US, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse, is the 4th "horseman" to rule the earth for Jesus and kill His enemies (as Jesus commands us to do). It is displeasing to God and absolutely insane to allow the enemy inside our borders. The policy of multiculturalism pushed by the democrats is wrong and must be abandoned.

And to those who may say that Christianity is just as violent as the Muslim religion, I should point out that the US has a policy of only killing enemy combatants and tries its best to not kill any innocent civilians unlike Mohammed's devotees who love to kill as many innocent civilians as possible.
 
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Wrong. We should deport people based on their religion when the religion is a violent one like Islam. The US, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse, is the 4th "horseman" to rule the earth for Jesus and kill His enemies (as Jesus commands us to do). It is displeasing to God and absolutely insane to allow the enemy inside our borders. The policy of multiculturalism pushed by the democrats is wrong and must be abandoned.
I guess you are not a big fan of the First Amendment.
 
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See, I think this is the big difference between the two mindsets. As an atheist, I look at Islamic terrorism and just see the product of a radical religious sect combined with mental illness, problematic cultural norms, and economic disaster. Same as radical Christianity.
The difference is that the Koran teaches the things the terrorists believe. They are being faithful to the will of Mohammed, the false prophet. I don't know of any radical Christians beheading people, but if there are they are acting contrary to the teachings of Christ. That said, while many terrorists are Muslims, not all Muslims are terrorists. Most, like most professed Christians, try to follow most of the teaching but never quite live up to what their religion espouses. Many Christians still hate and many Muslims refuse to hate. Those who call themselves Christians but have never accepted the Lord as their savior will not inherit the kingdom of God. Muslims will not either. Paul taught that those outside the law will be judged outside the law so a merciful and loving God will not condemn those who strive for righteousness because they have heard the wrong shepherd, but such will never be allowed in the presence of God. Will they be allowed in heaven or will they merely be spared eternal condemnation is for the Lord to decide. These answers are not provided.

As for the atheist who, hearing the word, rejects the word, there may be another standard entirely. Personally, I'm not taking any chances. My God is the Lord, and my savior is Jesus Christ.
 
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The difference is that the Koran teaches the things the terrorists believe.
I would say this about radical Christianity, as well. I'm not saying that the sacred texts don't play any role in the problem. Of course they do. But that doesn't mean I have a vendetta against other people who take other messages from the Koran or the Bible.
 
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I would say this about radical Christianity, as well. I'm not saying that the sacred texts don't play any role in the problem. Of course they do. But that doesn't mean I have a vendetta against other people who take other messages from the Koran or the Bible.
Nor do I; only with those who commit murder or other atrocities in the name of their religion. The parents, for example, who killed their daughter by pouring acid in her face because she talked with a boy on the phone have no place in Heaven regardless of how many times per day they pray to their fake god. The religion that justifies stoning a rape victim to death because she is no longer a version is a cult straight from the bowels of Hell. Still, most Muslims are appalled by such extreme behavior, as is any rational human being.
 
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Nor do I; only with those who commit murder or other atrocities in the name of their religion.
Glad to hear it.
Wrong. We should deport people based on their religion when the religion is a violent one like Islam. The US, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse, is the 4th "horseman" to rule the earth for Jesus and kill His enemies (as Jesus commands us to do). It is displeasing to God and absolutely insane to allow the enemy inside our borders. The policy of multiculturalism pushed by the democrats is wrong and must be abandoned.
I'd like to add to the quote to which you're responding by saying that we also should not deport people based on wild conspiracy theories.
 
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I guess you are not a big fan of the First Amendment.
The first amendment was never meant to be applied to groups that preach violence and repeatedly kill as many Americans as they can. I'm sure the founding fathers would approve of us deporting the Muslims before they kill any more Americans. Unlike many of today's politicians, they possessed common sense.
 
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The first amendment was never meant to be applied to groups that preach violence and repeatedly kill as many Americans as they can. I'm sure the founding fathers would approve of us deporting the Muslims before they kill any more Americans. Unlike many of today's politicians, they possessed common sense.
Why would we deport random American citizens? How about we just keep jailing criminals and leaving other people alone, like we do with everyone else. In the US, there's this lovely thing called "rights."

And that horsemen nonsense is the farthest thing from common sense.
 
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The first amendment was never meant to be applied to groups that preach violence and repeatedly kill as many Americans as they can. I'm sure the founding fathers would approve of us deporting the Muslims before they kill any more Americans. Unlike many of today's politicians, they possessed common sense.
The groups preaching violence and repeatedly kill as many Americans as they can don't live in the United States.
 
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No threat whatever. How's the weather in your strange, unfamiliar world?
9-11 was 15 years ago. And it was a one off. Your other photo is of Syria, not Westerners. You are at more risk of slipping and dying in the shower.
 
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The groups preaching violence and repeatedly kill as many Americans as they can don't live in the United States.
That is the stupidest statement I have seen on this thread. Many Muslims live in the US, and they have killed thousands of Americans. For nearly 200 years we didn't let Muslims in, and there were no terrorist attacks. Then in 1965, the Democrats for some unGodly reason decided the US should be a multicultural nation and enacted the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 which has proved to be dissasterous. It has resulted in hundreds of terrorist attacks and the death of thousands of Americans. It behooves us to end the multicultural experiment and repeal it, and the sooner the better. Then we should deport all the pagans already here, and return to being a Judeo-Christian nation. It would please God and save many lives.
 
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Many Muslims live in the US, and they have killed thousands of Americans.

Um...I am sure if they have killed thousands of Americans they would be hunted for right now by the FBI. And the murder rates don't support your claim here.....at least I don't know of recent Muslim rampages in the US...
 
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That is the stupidest statement I have seen on this thread. Many Muslims live in the US, and they have killed thousands of Americans. For nearly 200 years we didn't let Muslims in, and there were no terrorist attacks. Then in 1965, the Democrats for some unGodly reason decided the US should be a multicultural nation and enacted the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 which has proved to be dissasterous. It has resulted in hundreds of terrorist attacks and the death of thousands of Americans. It behooves us to end the multicultural experiment and repeal it, and the sooner the better. Then we should deport all the pagans already here, and return to being a Judeo-Christian nation. It would please God and save many lives.
Lol

The only thig true in this rant is many Muslims live in the Us. The rest is a joke.

Do you understand that Islam is not a country, and anybody can become Muslim?

It does not appear that you know what you are talking about.

DEPORT PAGANS. what?
 
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Then in 1965, the Democrats for some unGodly reason decided the US should be a multicultural nation and enacted the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 which has proved to be dissasterous.

Because prior to 1965 the first amendment was no in place and people could be deported for practicing a non-christian religion?
 
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