Dinosuars and men coexisted

[Alithis]

Dinosaurs and men coexisted

sure its a topic of a differing type for this forum and it will challenge "faith"

that is to say it will challenge in whom our faith truly stands .

Dinosaurs and men coexisted because it is the premise that they did not which so confuses people into accepting any part of the lie filled theories of evolution .
they question the book of genisis over this issue .
but forget simplistic thigs ..
who told you dinosaurs and men did not coexist upon the earth ?
man did .. and when has man ever been trustworthy ?

have at it , we who claim to believe in the Holy Spirit who leads us into all truth .what is the truth of the matter .science has only ever been ambiguiouis at best and bald faced lie at worst .. never can it be trusted .
the word of god has and can not lie .. "for God is not a man that he should lie ..."Him , we can trust - his word is TRUTH .

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Dinosaurs and the earth-men did not exist in the same epoch. Earth-man did not evolve into existence until several million years ago. The archons took those earth-men (the product of evolution) and made them into their own image. It was only since the last ice age that God created Eden and created the man Adam from the clay of the earth. Dinos were long gone by then. It as only after Adam, Eve, and sons left the garden that they mixed with the earth-men eventually leading to the corruption of the line and necessitating the flood. Noah was the last genetically pure son of Adam. All other men were corrupted with earth-man and giant genes.

 

[Alithis]

Dinosaurs and the earth-men did not exist in the same epoch. Earth-man did not evolve into existence until several million years ago. The archons took those earth-men (the product of evolution) and made them into their own image. It was only since the last ice age that God created Eden and created the man Adam from the clay of the earth. Dinos were long gone by then. It as only after Adam, Eve, and sons left the garden that they mixed with the earth-men eventually leading to the corruption of the line and necessitating the flood. Noah was the last genetically pure son of Adam. All other men were corrupted with earth-man and giant genes.

respectfully .the bible states no such thing any where ..so where does this info come from ?there is vast amount of conjecture presented as though it were truth or fact and that is not an honest stance to begin with .
weird how ancient cultures both hunted and carved imagery of these beasts isn't it ..
it is inevitable in such a topic that the creation of the world will come up the same earth which God states he formed in 6 days and rested in the 7th.
and the moment anyone says " but " ..all they are really doing is disagreeing with the word of God .
lets apply honesty in life with the word of God in line with "faith" .

man says
but God says

whose wrong ..? "man " of course .

 

[rdclmn72]

We call them reptiles, with example of other forms of life that are constantly being discovered, no problem with it.

 

[FerventDisciple]

Dinosaurs and the earth-men did not exist in the same epoch. Earth-man did not evolve into existence until several million years ago. The archons took those earth-men (the product of evolution) and made them into their own image. It was only since the last ice age that God created Eden and created the man Adam from the clay of the earth. Dinos were long gone by then. It as only after Adam, Eve, and sons left the garden that they mixed with the earth-men eventually leading to the corruption of the line and necessitating the flood. Noah was the last genetically pure son of Adam. All other men were corrupted with earth-man and giant genes.

respectfully .the bible states no such thing any where ..so where does this info come from ?there is vast amount of conjecture presented as though it were truth or fact and that is not an honest stance to begin with .
weird how ancient cultures both hunted and carved imagery of these beasts isn't it ..
it is inevitable in such a topic that the creation of the world will come up the same earth which God states he formed in 6 days and rested in the 7th.
and the moment anyone says " but " ..all they are really doing is disagreeing with the word of God .
lets apply honesty in life with the word of God in line with "faith" .

man says
but God says

whose wrong ..? "man " of course .

Sounds like something straight out of the "pre-adamite world" Dake Bible notes.

The Bible says death didn't come until after Adam so dinosaurs evolving and dying before him would be a direct contradiction.

 

[Messy]

Dunno, GAP theory sounds plausible too and is literally believing the Bible and it brings evolutionists to Christ who can't believe dr. Dino. YEC doesn't explain where the darkness came from.
I tend to believe it's not that old, since they found soft tissue in a dino though.
http://www.kjvbible.org/

 

[ByTheSpirit]

I have heard that radiocarbon dating is:

a) a faulty method for time dating anyway
b) accurate until the time of Noah because when the floods came from the skies, it skewed the atmosphere and that throws the method out of whack.

Either way, I am not sure what I believe as far as the "gap theory" in Genesis. Dinosaurs can't possibly be a hoax, but then again it is hard to imagine how they would have died if Naoh was told take 2 of every animal on the ark....

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Sounds like something straight out of the "pre-adamite world" Dake Bible notes.

The Bible says death didn't come until after Adam so dinosaurs evolving and dying before him would be a direct contradiction.

I wonder if that includes plant life?
If God planned no death in His creation, that means the world would have quickly filled up. Bacteria, plankton, and algae would have quickly built up in the rivers and oceans. Within a relatively short time the earth would be miles deep with animals that never die.After a few thousand years the sun would be burned out due to being filled up with animals from earth walking around inside it. Whole new planets would form from the masses of earth flesh eternally living in space. I suspect in a few million years the whole universe would be filled with rabbits and mice alone. Very unpleasant for all these beasts. Imagine live animals burning forever in the sun. Animals frozen stiff in space. None of them breathing cause there is no air. Still alive! Say. there would be humans in the mix also. Yikes! I wonder how long it would have taken to fill up the garden of Eden with humans that never died. With the way they had kids back the I suspect not very long.
Pretty interesting concept.

 

[Messy]

I have heard that radiocarbon dating is:

a) a faulty method for time dating anyway
b) accurate until the time of Noah because when the floods came from the skies, it skewed the atmosphere and that throws the method out of whack.

Either way, I am not sure what I believe as far as the "gap theory" in Genesis. Dinosaurs can't possibly be a hoax, but then again it is hard to imagine how they would have died if Naoh was told take 2 of every animal on the ark....

The athmosphere changed totally, so they were too big and most died and others were killed by knights they say. If they're really that old and it's from before the gap there must have been those animals together with man too, because it's written in Job. Weird thing about GAP is though that they explain geology with that, but say you can see no evidence of the flood.

 

[jiminpa]

Dinosaurs and men coexisted

sure its a topic of a differing type for this forum and it will challenge "faith"

that is to say it will challenge in whom our faith truly stands .

Dinosaurs and men coexisted because it is the premise that they did not which so confuses people into accepting any part of the lie filled theories of evolution .
they question the book of genisis over this issue .
but forget simplistic thigs ..
who told you dinosaurs and men did not coexist upon the earth ?
man did .. and when has man ever been trustworthy ?

have at it , we who claim to believe in the Holy Spirit who leads us into all truth .what is the truth of the matter .science has only ever been ambiguiouis at best and bald faced lie at worst .. never can it be trusted .
the word of god has and can not lie .. "for God is not a man that he should lie ..."Him , we can trust - his word is TRUTH .

I agree.

 

[Messy]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GdCrPkuAoag

 

[lismore]

Dinosaurs and men coexisted

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Leviathan and behemoth

 

[Alithis]

“Look at Behemoth,
which I made along with you
and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16 What strength it has in its loins,
what power in the muscles of its belly!
17 Its tail sways like a cedar;
the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze,
its limbs like rods of iron.
19 It ranks first among the works of God,
yet its Maker can approach it with his sword.
20 The hills bring it their produce,
and all the wild animals play nearby.
21 Under the lotus plants it lies,
hidden among the reeds in the marsh.
22 The lotuses conceal it in their shadow;
the poplars by the stream surround it.
23 A raging river does not alarm it;
it is secure, though the Jordan should surge against its mouth.-Job

and before anyone embarrasses themselves- crocodiles do not eat grass

this was what w now call a dinosaurand note he made it "along WITH man !

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Dinosaurs and men coexisted

I don't believe so -

My personal "Working hypothesis" is generally called the "Gap Theory" - i.e. there is a chronological "Gap" of unknown duration between Gen 1:1, and Gen 1:2.

The possibility is that several "creation cycles" took place on this dirt ball BEFORE the Adamic one, which commences in Gen 1:2.

As the end approaches, it'll be interesting (and probably worth a GOOD LAUGH) when all things are revealed and we find out how things REALLY Went down.

Simple as that.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

I don't believe so -

My personal "Working hypothesis" is generally called the "Gap Theory" - i.e. there is a chronological "Gap" of unknown duration between Gen 1:1, and Gen 1:2.

The possibility is that several "creation cycles" took place on this dirt ball BEFORE the Adamic one, which commences in Gen 1:2.

As the end approaches, it'll be interesting (and probably worth a GOOD LAUGH) when all things are revealed and we find out how things REALLY Went down.

Simple as that.

I agree Bob. Wow. When does that happen!


I think the universe really is 14 or so billion years old.
I think that evolution (guided) is the process by which God enabled creatures in His creation to adapt and change. Genius really. Evolution has been occurring in every age since the original creation. A testimony to the glory, wisdom, and power of God.
I see the creation of man on the sixth day as being separate from the creation of Adam and Eve. The creation of man on the sixth day came about by the process of evolution, while the creation of Adam and Eve were direct works of the hand of God.
The so called-gap occurred occurred millions of years ago and was so extensive that all life was destroyed on earth, and therefore God had to fire the whole thing up again in the 6 days of re-creation.
God re-started evolution when He commanded that the earth and seas bring forth life. His word does not return to Him void.
There is really no need to fear science or evolution. It is God working all in all.

 

[Alithis]

I don't believe so -

My personal "Working hypothesis" is generally called the "Gap Theory" - i.e. there is a chronological "Gap" of unknown duration between Gen 1:1, and Gen 1:2.

The possibility is that several "creation cycles" took place on this dirt ball BEFORE the Adamic one, which commences in Gen 1:2.

As the end approaches, it'll be interesting (and probably worth a GOOD LAUGH) when all things are revealed and we find out how things REALLY Went down.

Simple as that.

the operative word there being .. theory .

God says 6 days and rested the 7th .. i'll go with his word ..its trust worthy .
and simply to much evidence that dinosaurs (dragons) coexisted with men .
and now soft tissue being found... yeah science has been wrong before ..cant trust it .
when we put our trust solely in that which we observe.. that which we "see" we have stepped right out of "faith"

 

[Alithis]

I agree Bob. Wow. When does that happen!


I think the universe really is 14 or so billion years old.
I think that evolution (guided) is the process by which God enabled creatures in His creation to adapt and change. Genius really. Evolution has been occurring in every age since the original creation. A testimony to the glory, wisdom, and power of God.
I see the creation of man on the sixth day as being separate from the creation of Adam and Eve. The creation of man on the sixth day came about by the process of evolution, while the creation of Adam and Eve were direct works of the hand of God.
The so called-gap occurred occurred millions of years ago and was so extensive that all life was destroyed on earth, and therefore God had to fire the whole thing up again in the 6 days of re-creation.
God re-started evolution when He commanded that the earth and seas bring forth life. His word does not return to Him void.
There is really no need to fear science or evolution. It is God working all in all.

hmm god says vs you "think"

i'll take Gods word .
and since dinosaurs coexisted much of the theory of evolution is immediately wrong .
evolution assumes God cannot create in a day what he said he created in a day . it is based upon conjecture motivated by unbelief.. the unbelief that says .."God cannot because such and such a man observed a rock and a bone and said so .."

 

[Alithis]

i find all the theories presented on pre-adamic races have among many , one MAJOR flaw. they detract from child like faith in the word of God .
they muscle up human intellect like nimrod building a tower to "beat Gods word " even though God promised to never flood the "whole" earth again -unbelief in any form takes may winding roads down hill to a very wide one .

The righteous are called to live by faith not by sight . confidence in any science is confidence in the present observations of the flesh mingles with musings of the carnal nature and as such ..is no longer faith in Gods WOrd .

some say it does not matter what i believe in regard to creation.. however it most certainly does because it sets a premise the same as that serpent set in the garden when he "lied " to eve and said ...

"did god reeeally say "

did god reeealy say 6 days ?mabe he meant this or that ...= doubt !
did he really make man in a day ? = Doubt
etc .. it is the sowing of doubt and unbelief .
it is promoting the foolishness of man and super imposing it over the word of the one true Living God .. it lays a foundation in the sands of carnal understanding and it wil bring about a fall when the storms come .

0ur faith must be soundly in the Lord Jesus who is the word of god we must believe him in everything or can never truly and soundly believe him in anything because if we imply his word is untrue in ANY PART ,then we imply God is untrue and no one can trust in something that is shown to be untrue .
God forbid.that we take part in such promotion.

the world and its science has agenda ..its agenda is to promote man as God .it is motivated and inspired by the Spirit of Antichrist .it has spawned the religion of atheism .
and it has lied to us time and time again and too many Christians have bough into that lie .In this generation grown up with it pouring into their lounge visa tv's and have believed a lie .

man and beasts ,once called dragon, behemoth, leviathan .. now called dinosaurs coexisted and still do in crocodiles, rhinoceros etc and those that have not been hunted to extinction .
the theory of evolution is a lie inspired by the devil to undermine faith in God .. and faith in God is not based on observable fact ..it is based upon the Word of God .
when we question the word of God ..we undermine faith in Him.

 

[Alithis]

The problem i have is with the millions of years ..it limits God and disagrees with his word where in he says ..in 6 days he formed the earth .
also this measurement of millions of years is based on measuring systems so flawed as to be honestly nothing more then conjecture .
'add to that - uncertain evidence as beheld by the eyes is trusting in what one sees as observed by self rather then having faith in the word of God regardless of what one sees .
for God formed the fish and the bread to feed 5000 and he did not need 80million years to do so ..he formed them instantaneously .God is completely able and more so to create the earth and all therein , in 6 days .for "with God nothing is impossible " .

the moment we put faith in man who says ,( in opposition to the word of God
based on flawed methods of the measurement of age) that "god cant " then we unwittingly step one foot fully into the realm of unbelief .
for as surely as the Lord Lives ..HE CAN ! and did .

And when he returns and the heavens roll up like a scroll .. with they take another 80 million years to do so ? No for everything must obey his voice .

 

[AmericanChristian91]

The problem i have is with the millions of years ..it limits God and disagrees with his word where in he says ..in 6 days he formed the earth . .

I don't see how the earth being 4.54 billion yrs old, the universe being 13.8 billion yrs, and the earth taking a lot longer to form then 6 days, disagrees with the bible and limits God.

If the fact that it took longer then 6 days to create everything limits God, then I could say that because God could have created the world in 6 hrs, or 6 min, or even 6 sec, and it came about in 6 days, is a disgrace to God because he could have created the world much faster. Of course that is a ridiculous argument.

And yes the world was created in 6 days......in the book of genesis. That doesn't mean that the world was ACTUALLY created in 6 days. To believe that you have to assume the genre of the creation story, is that focused on 100% historical accuracy, and that the reference to 6 days, HAS to also reference 6 HISTORICAL days of creation. Though plenty would disagree with you that the focus of the creation story and the 6 days, is not that of historical accuracy but more focused on questions about God, Man, Nature, theological things, instead of being a story focused on historical/scientific truth (which is why there are many references to ancient/incorrect cosmology in the story).