Congressman believes Obama cut deal with Africans to bring Ebola patients to the U.S.

[OlduvaiGeorge]

Someone may be missing a dose or three of medication.

Can I get in on that?

 

[ThisBrotherOfHis]

Hoo-boy! Didn't see that one ... OK then!

::: seeking volunteers from among fellow Christians to get NannaMae some help :::

 

[cow451]

Can I get in on that?

I thought maybe you already had.

 

[Glass*Soul]

Someone may be missing a dose or three of medication.

I find the paranoia that can accompany some mental illnesses, the paranoia that can accompany extreme right wing politics, and the paranoia that can accompany preoccupation with religious end-times scenarios virtually indistinguishable.

At what point do we begin suggesting that someone see a mental health professional vs. passing it off as *meh* just politics or *meh* just religion?

 

[Cearbhall]

Barack Hussein Ebola

Oh man.

That's all I need to read...

 

[cow451]

I find the paranoia that can accompany some mental illnesses, the paranoia that can accompany extreme right wing politics, and the paranoia that can accompany preoccupation with religious end-times scenarios virtually indistinguishable.

At what point do we begin suggesting that someone see a mental health professional vs. passing it off as *meh* just politics or *meh* just religion?

Delusional thinking, in and of itself, does not respond to counseling. In the absence of overt psychosis, delusions do not respond to medication, either. And, I am referencing the Congressman, not any particular poster.

 

[ThisBrotherOfHis]

I find the paranoia that can accompany some mental illnesses, the paranoia that can accompany extreme right wing politics, and the paranoia that can accompany preoccupation with religious end-times scenarios virtually indistinguishable.

Hey, can you paint my house for me?

 

[Glass*Soul]

Hey, can you paint my house for me?

Why do you ask?

 

[ThisBrotherOfHis]

Why do you ask?

Because if you can wield that broad a brush to paint people you don't like or agree with, you can surely finish my house up in a half a day.

 

[Glass*Soul]

Because if you can wield that broad a brush to paint people you don't like or agree with, you can surely finish my house up in a half a day.

LOL. That one whooshed right over my head.

However I don't think it applies in this case. I am not saying all extreme right wing politicians (or all end-times-ophiles) say paranoid things. What I'm saying is that when a congressman comes out with something like this, there is nothing inherent in it that clues me in that he isn't suffering from a mental illness. Politics or mental illness? It needs a professional to tease it out.

 

[ThisBrotherOfHis]

LOL. That one whooshed right over my head.

However I don't think it applies in this case. I am not saying all extreme right wing politicians (or all end-times-ophiles) say paranoid things. What I'm saying is that when a congressman comes out with something like this, there is nothing inherent in it that clues me in that he isn't suffering from a mental illness. Politics or mental illness? It needs a professional to tease it out.

I could say the same thing about extreme liberal viewpoints and some of the stupidity that comes out of their mouths. It is as Dr. Ben Carson says: We need to stop engaging in hyperbole on both sides and begin a dialogue, come to an understanding, and work on these problems together. If we keep letting ideas polarize us, driving us further and further apart, we're never going to fix these problems or heal the nation.

 

[Glass*Soul]

I could say the same thing about extreme liberal viewpoints and some of the stupidity that comes out of their mouths. It is as Dr. Ben Carson says: We need to stop engaging in hyperbole on both sides and begin a dialogue, come to an understanding, and work on these problems together. If we keep letting ideas polarize us, driving us further and further apart, we're never going to fix these problems or heal the nation.

I agree with you about some of the extreme liberal rhetoric. I don't like it any more than I like the extreme conservative rhetoric. It comes off as childish and mean more than paranoid to my ears, but YMMV.

This congressman's statement about Obama is extreme. Not simply because it is from a right wing congressman. It is extreme because of its content. He imagines a high level and pointlessly evil collusion--something of the "they're out to get us" type--based entirely on his own fears and anxieties. He presents no direct evidence because it's "secret" yet he has somehow cottoned to it. That is paranoia. It is not extreme of me to point this out.

 

[cow451]

I agree with you about some of the extreme liberal rhetoric. I don't like it any more than I like the extreme conservative rhetoric. It comes off as childish and mean more than paranoid to my ears, but YMMV.

This congressman's statement about Obama is extreme. Not simply because it is from a right wing congressman. It is extreme because of its content. He imagines a high level and pointlessly evil collusion--something of the "they're out to get us" type--based entirely on his own fears and anxieties. He presents no direct evidence because it's "secret" yet he has somehow cottoned to it. That is paranoia. It is not extreme of me to point this out.

You forgot to mention that people usually don't paint glass houses.

 

[USincognito]

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) told Sean Hannity that he believes that America will eventually discover that Obama has secretly ''cut a deal'' with African leaders to ''bring people in'' Ebola patients to the US from Africa following the mid-term elections.

Rep. Asparagus is that special blend of stupid and insane we usually find quaint in people who say wild-eyed things in public venues.

It's different when they've been elected to office.

 

[USincognito]

We either help over there or it will come here in greater numbers. And one country over there has it under control and there has been no cases in 6 weeks.

Progress is being made, and can be made.

Two actually - Nigeria and Senegal.

 

[USincognito]

I could say the same thing about extreme liberal viewpoints and some of the stupidity that comes out of their mouths. It is as Dr. Ben Carson says: We need to stop engaging in hyperbole on both sides and begin a dialogue, come to an understanding, and work on these problems together. If we keep letting ideas polarize us, driving us further and further apart, we're never going to fix these problems or heal the nation.

Is that the Ben Carson who claimed Lenin said, "Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the Socialized State."?

 

[High Fidelity]

One would imagine you'd want your military and government to have the means and knowledge to combat something potentially devastating, even for the potential scenario it reaches your own borders.

 

[ThisBrotherOfHis]

Is that the Ben Carson who claimed Lenin said, "Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the Socialized State."?

Yes. I'm sure you're going to tell me the Library of Congress couldn't find such a quote. I'm going to tell you "So what?" It was quoted in an AMA pamphlet in 1945, attributed as a requote from American socialist Norman Thomas in 1927. If the socialists believed he said it, even if he didn't, it is no less indicative of the truth of their agenda.

Thomas also said, "The American people would never vote for socialism. But under the name of liberalism, the American people would adopt every fragment of the socialist program."

One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project. According to the Physicians for a National Health Program’s (PNHP) Karen Palmer, the AMA assessed its members an extra $25 each to resist national health insurance, and in 1945, it spent $1.5 million on lobbying efforts, which at the time was the most expensive lobbying effort in American history.The purpose was to educate the American people on what the AMA saw as -- at that time -- a future effort to impose socialized medicine. In 1947, Truman introduced the first legislative effort at imposing national health insurance. It failed miserably in Congress.

 

[OlduvaiGeorge]

Yes. I'm sure you're going to tell me the Library of Congress couldn't find such a quote. I'm going to tell you "So what?" It was quoted in an AMA pamphlet in 1945, attributed as a requote from American socialist Norman Thomas in 1927. If the socialists believed he said it, even if he didn't, it is no less indicative of the truth of their agenda.

Thomas also said, "The American people would never vote for socialism. But under the name of liberalism, the American people would adopt every fragment of the socialist program."

One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project. According to the Physicians for a National Health Program’s (PNHP) Karen Palmer, the AMA assessed its members an extra $25 each to resist national health insurance, and in 1945, it spent $1.5 million on lobbying efforts, which at the time was the most expensive lobbying effort in American history.The purpose was to educate the American people on what the AMA saw as -- at that time -- a future effort to impose socialized medicine. In 1947, Truman introduced the first legislative effort at imposing national health insurance. It failed miserably in Congress.

Wow! It's a good thing we don't have socialized health care in the United States then.

 

[ThisBrotherOfHis]

Wow! It's a good thing we don't have socialized health care in the United States then.