Should atheists be allowed to serve in the US military?

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In the US we swear on Bibles in the court rooms, our money says "In God We Trust.", and the public and politicians alike say God Bless America every chance we get.

President Obama's Greatest Speech - YouTube

That being the case, should atheists be allowed to serve in the US military or might their presence there offend God with their disbelief in His Divine Providence?
 

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That being the case, should atheists be allowed to serve in the US military or might their presence there offend God with their disbelief in His Divine Providence?

Jesus taught his followers to be tolerant of others, I find it repugnant that a Christian even feels the need to ask such a disgusting question.
 
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Jesus taught his followers to be tolerant of others, I find it repugnant that a Christian even feels the need to ask such a disgusting question.

I find it awesome, can you imagine an army with soldiers turning the other cheek to their enemies? Or am I confusing Christianity with some other religion?
 
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Jesus taught his followers to be tolerant of others, I find it repugnant that a Christian even feels the need to ask such a disgusting question.

You don't think an army of saintly Christian warrior poets is preferable to a hodgepodge coalition of people with mixed beliefs, loyalties and agendas?
 
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Yes, atheists should be permitted. Serving in the military is an individual choice. Some (who are believers) may feel called by God, others may just feel that they wish to serve their country. It isn't for anyone to hold someone back for any reason, as to their desire to serve.
 
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You don't think an army of saintly Christian warrior poets is preferable to a hodgepodge coalition of people with mixed beliefs, loyalties and agendas?

But Chrisians are a hodgepodge coalition of people with mixed beliefs, loyalties and agendas.
 
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But Chrisians are a hodgepodge coalition of people with mixed beliefs, loyalties and agendas.

Christians are a people of one belief, one loyalty and one agenda. Their faith unites them in solidarity. You might want to learn more about them before flippantly attempting to turn my words against me like a belligerent tween.
 
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Christians are a people of one belief, one loyalty and one agenda. Their faith unites them in solidarity.

That is funny. Even the few Christian's on this board are not united.

Christianity has fragmented into 40,000 various denominations, with new ones being invented every year.

You might want to learn more about them before flippantly attempting to turn my words against me like a belligerent tween.

I think it is you who needs to learn, I have studied Christianity (among others) and I was once a Christian myself...unfortunately.
 
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Christians are a people of one belief, one loyalty and one agenda. Their faith unites them in solidarity. You might want to learn more about them before flippantly attempting to turn my words against me like a belligerent tween.

It would be beautiful if this was genuinely true, but Christianity has had factions for centuries, because even though a unified belief in Christ should make us overcome the differences between us to serve God in solidarity, it hasn't. Consider the many wars, tensions, and conflict waged between Christians with one another over the ages. On a smaller scale, consider the feuds and bickering just on this forum between Christians regarding hermeneutical interpretations and oh so many other matters. Christianity was the dominant religion at the time of the Civil War, and soldiers who were brothers in Christ and in some circumstances actual brothers savagely fought against one another. One of the fracturing issues actually was religion because many anti-abolitionists cited the multitude of verses from the Bible regarding slavery as endorsement for it.

Look at what the Christian militias are doing in Central African Republic right now, and how the tenets of the Bible have been secondary to their personal agendas. Look at the feuds between Protestants and Catholics in Northern Ireland.

I'm grateful to anyone who has the ability to serve in the military and willingly chooses to do so because it is indicative of a powerful loyalty to our country. When you have someone serving for your freedom their competence should override your feelings about their religious beliefs. Many atheists are moral, upstanding, intelligent, brave, and precisely what our country needs. What they personally believe is none of our concern so long as they perform the duties of their position with devotion to the best of their abilities.

Oh, and there's speculation as to whether the first six presidents were sworn into office on the Bible or a book of laws. We know John Quincy Adams did not use the Bible. Many of the references to God in our Pledge of Allegiance and on our currency were added much later on for propagandistic reasons. You're correct that many politicians often say, "God Bless America" when in public, especially while campaigning. I don't know how many are sincere when they say it.

So yes, of course I think atheists and anyone else who meets the standards for service and chooses to enlist should be permitted to do so.
 
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Is that why there are so many denominations?
that all agree on essential doctrine. We don't need to be united on every single thing. The bible allows for there to be differences so no problem there. In so many areas of life there are different ways to achieve the same result. Christianity is no different. There are different styles of worship but still worshipping the same God.


Having said all that I think Autumnleaf likes to start controversial discussions.
 
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That being the case, should atheists be allowed to serve in the US military or might their presence there offend God with their disbelief in His Divine Providence?

If atheists are in the military, God will side with Islam. God is fickle that way.
 
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Christians are a people of one belief, one loyalty and one agenda. Their faith unites them in solidarity. You might want to learn more about them before flippantly attempting to turn my words against me like a belligerent tween.

If I were in combat, I'd hope like heck that my guys had one loyalty too. To their commanders and their fellow troops. Ditto for agenda.
 
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Is that why there are so many denominations?

There are many denominations because God loves variety. I think He's a fan of salad bar religion. If He wasn't there would only be one denomination. Don't mistake the different denominations for being more different than the same. The US military has the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. They all work together for the same thing. So it is with the different denominations. They are there for the glory of God.
 
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In the US we swear on Bibles in the court rooms, our money says "In God We Trust.", and the public and politicians alike say God Bless America every chance we get.

President Obama's Greatest Speech - YouTube

That being the case, should atheists be allowed to serve in the US military or might their presence there offend God with their disbelief in His Divine Providence?

I am sure the gods only are offended at atheists serving gods nation and killing people legally.
 
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