Ezekiel 39.

[Douggg]

Am presently re-reading that writing by Pink, after all these years. It remains as full of holes as it did when I first read it years ago.

Also, its entire spirit is that of the typical tradutionalist - be they.for or against Dispensationalism - they right from that same spirit of mind that Christ had been so at odds with as to "the scribes" of his day - as though both, in love with hearing themselves, as well as if compelled to use words in a manner that might show their audience just how great they are with words.

I read that piece by Pink, and I found it hard to follow what he was saying, unlike his work on the Antichrist.

 

[Daniel1136]

What you are missing is that "Allah" does not exist .... this religion is Satan's cover for himself

The Muslim anti-messiah will succeed in what the misguided Muslims want .... their
expressed desires: rule the Middle East, take Israel's land , Jerusalem, and the temple mount, and destroy western colonial capitalism

The are worshiping a "god" that their fathers new not today ... the very devil himself .... the author of the false religion of Islam, the inspiration of the false prophet Mohammed

Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Ishmael, and Esau knew nothing about Satan's contrivance of Islam

.... but you will believe what you want

 

[Douggg]

What you are missing is that "Allah" does not exist .... this religion is Satan's cover for himself

Regardless, the Muslims are forbidden to worship a man claiming to be God. The beast is a man claiming to be God. He will not lead a Muslim army.

The Muslim anti-messiah will succeed in what the misguided Muslims want .... their
expressed desires: rule the Middle East, take Israel's land , Jerusalem, and the temple mount, and destroy western colonial capitalism

It is not going to happening. In Islam, their end times prophecies consist of the Mahdi, Isa (their version of Jesus), and the Dajeel.

The bible equivalents are theorectically by them subscribing to the Muslim Antichrist, being the Mahdi is the Antichrist, and Isa, the role of the false prophet.

The major problem with that theory is that there is no person in real bible prophecy which equate to the dajeel, the muslim version of the Antichrist.

In addition, Isa, in the muslim prophecies, does not show up until the Mahdi and his army is in battle with dajeel and his army - with the outcome in question - when Isa descends from heaven to defeat the dajeel. All of which has no parallel in the true prophecies of the bible.

The are worshiping a "god" that their fathers new not today ... the very devil himself .... the author of the false religion of Islam, the inspiration of the false prophet Mohammed

The muslims, as muslims, cannot be worshiping a man (the beast) claiming to be God. It is totally counter to Islam.

Your theory is off.

 

[Daniel1136]

And I think your theory is off

Sorry Doug ... not much point in any discussion

 

[Rev20]

What you are missing is that "Allah" does not exist .... this religion is Satan's cover for himself

The Muslim anti-messiah will succeed in what the misguided Muslims want .... their
expressed desires: rule the Middle East, take Israel's land , Jerusalem, and the temple mount, and destroy western colonial capitalism

The are worshiping a "god" that their fathers new not today ... the very devil himself .... the author of the false religion of Islam, the inspiration of the false prophet Mohammed

Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Ishmael, and Esau knew nothing about Satan's contrivance of Islam

.... but you will believe what you want

You do realize that both Islam and Judaism are religions of antichrist, don't you?


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[Daniel1136]

And so is a major portion of professing Christianity

Satan has infiltrated them all

His incursions have caused the following:

He has blindsided Judaism, corrupted professing Christianity, and created a warped monotheistic Islam

The latter is the most visible and virulent "antichrist" of them all

So what is your point?

 

[Rev20]

And so is a major portion of professing Christianity

Satan has infiltrated them all

His incursions have caused the following:

He has blindsided Judaism, corrupted professing Christianity, and created a warped monotheistic Islam

The latter is the most visible and virulent "antichrist" of them all

So what is your point?

Well, now my point is, you do not understand what the word "antichrist" means. I recommend a refresher course in John's Epistles.

Before I forget, it also appears that you do not understand Judaism. It has always been antichrist. To them, Jesus was never the Christ, but a false prophet. In many circles of that religion, believing that Jesus is the Christ, or even divine, is an unpardonable sin.


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[Daniel1136]

Your response above makes no sense ... you rattle on about nothing .... I see a real disconnect

You will have to speak more clearly if you want me to discuss things with you

 

[Rev20]

Your response above makes no sense ... you rattle on about nothing .... I see a real disconnect

You will have to speak more clearly if you want me to discuss things with you

Very well, Daniel. I will expect no future responses from you.


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[Interplanner]

What does "blindsiding" Judaism mean? What was it's purpose to begin with?

 

[Daniel1136]

Read Romans 11

Israel rejected the Lord at His first advent [the primary rejectionists were the false teachers of Judaism]

Because of this the Lord has blinded the nation of Israel from the truth about Jesus Christ to this very day

 

[Interplanner]

I wasn't asking about Judaism because I didn't know. I was asking to find out what the member thought it was about.

 

[Daniel1136]

Now you know ..... but your response above is a clever turn

 

[Interplanner]

No, Daniel,
I can't say I know what you mean by the AC's blindsiding of (current) Judaism, unless that is not the exact moment you are speaking of. What passage speaks of this--do you mean that it is found some way in a combination of Dan 9 and the Thess material?

 

[Daniel1136]

I am going to disengage at this time

If you want further information you will have to go to my "New Islamic State of Iraq thread"

I am on the forum to present this current setting in the Middle East in relation to the visions of the Bible prophets, and this is where my focus will be from now on

 

[Interplanner]

The way to do that is to create a safehouse. In threads you have to be prepared to take questions. I conclude you cannot answer the above question.

 

[Daniel1136]

You do not listen very well do you?

 

[Interplanner]

If you don't create a safehouse, I'm entitled to interact with anything posted in the threads.

Blindsiding and 'God blinding Israel in part' is not the same thing.

Btw, the partial blindness has always been there if you listen to the text well. Paul was saying this all through Rom 9-11; there never was automatic belief by Israel.

 

[Danoh]

If you don't create a safehouse, I'm entitled to interact with anything posted in the threads.

Blindsiding and 'God blinding Israel in part' is not the same thing.

Btw, the partial blindness has always been there if you listen to the text well. Paul was saying this all through Rom 9-11; there never was automatic belief by Israel.

"blindness in part" refers not the extent of the blindness, but to its temporary nature.
Barjesus' blinding "for a season" having been a type pointing to this.

 

[Interplanner]

I think you mean hardening, and it has always been there. He shows this with many examples in Rom 9-11 because he needs all the distance he can get from genetic/automatic blessing, which does not exist (11:20). It is Judaism's delusion (which he grew up in) that it was automatic. It made no historic sense.

"Until" also means for the duration. That's why v26 is not "And then...". It actually translates as "In this manner or way..." (partial hardenedness of genetic Israel). It remains to the end of time. The Israel that is saved is the other one he is talking about; those who believe that
1, the Redeemer came to Zion
2, he purified people in Israel/Jacob
3, he brought the new covenant
4, the new covenant takes away the debt of sin, as in 'behold the Lamb who takes away...'

This is why the final punch of 9-11 is that all this resolved in the present. V30+ has 3 "nows" (Paul's now). All mankind are bound in sin; all may receive the offer of mercy in the Gospel. There is no hint of dealing with ethnos anymore.