New Religions

[BaconWizard]

Speaking of New Religions and Eclipse Phase; do any of you see Transhumanism becoming the wave of the future?

Try the wave of the present.

 

[Zoness]

Try the wave of the present.

Not sure why sarcasm; but yeah, that's generally true implicitly. By nature of people wanting to live longer, have better lives, cure diseases -- this is all transhumanist in nature. However, I don't see there being a "Transhumanist Religion" in the mainstream unless you can point me to something?

 

[BaconWizard]

Not sure why sarcasm; but yeah, that's generally true implicitly. By nature of people wanting to live longer, have better lives, cure diseases -- this is all transhumanist in nature. However, I don't see there being a "Transhumanist Religion" in the mainstream unless you can point me to something?

There was no sarcasm intended whatsoever! I think it is completely inevitable but of course depends upon social/economic status.

If I had the chance, I'd LEAP at some of the merging technologies and ideas that are just coming to fruition and all the terrifying and inspiring possibilities they open-up to us.

I am an acolyte of such a "religion" waiting for it to happen. Suspect I'll miss it though, and I'm not rich enough. Give it another century and it will have started proper.

 

[Eudaimonist]

Speaking of New Religions and Eclipse Phase; do any of you see Transhumanism becoming the wave of the future?

Honestly, no.

The allure of transhumanism strikes me as limited to a portion of technophiles, and I don't see that changing in the future, even if technology does improve greatly.

I used to be a transhumanist, but after some time I realized that I was fine with simply being human. I grew to suspect that it was more fun simply thinking about transhumanist technologies in a science fiction way than seriously planning to transform my body. Even if I did want to have myself cryonically suspended at death, I would want to be human on the other end, not some computer or robot.

In short, I went from transhumanist to humanist, though naturally I still do love to ponder new technologies.

Even with the popularity of the Internet, I just can't see humanity getting its geek on in sufficient numbers to make for a significantly large transhumanist movement.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[BaconWizard]

Put it this way. I have a friend who makes highly conductive graphene ink which enables you to draw circuits, paint-on thermoelectric surfaces, draw a tv arial, etc.

My next move is to get a tattoo using said ink which is also a functioning circuit.

 

[Zoness]

There was no sarcasm intended whatsoever! I think it is completely inevitable but of course depends upon social/economic status.

Ah I must have just been in a bad mood and misreading your post. Sorry!

Good point about socio-economics because that's where we'll get the Eclipse Phase style of an upper class who can live as long as they want while the poor masses die out.

 

[gord44]

Don't make Zoness angry. You wouldn't like Zoness when he's angry....

 

[BaconWizard]

Don't make Zoness angry. You wouldn't like Zoness when he's angry....

 

[gord44]

Zoness didn't break the law! HE IS THE LAW!

 

[Zoness]

Don't make Zoness angry. You wouldn't like Zoness when he's angry....

Zoness didn't break the law! HE IS THE LAW!

True story!

 

[BaconWizard]

So next question is, what working circuit could I have as a tattoo? I am pretty sure I'd be the first ever to do such a thing.

 

[MehGuy]

Honestly, no.

The allure of transhumanism strikes me as limited to a portion of technophiles, and I don't see that changing in the future, even if technology does improve greatly.

I used to be a transhumanist, but after some time I realized that I was fine with simply being human. I grew to suspect that it was more fun simply thinking about transhumanist technologies in a science fiction way than seriously planning to transform my body. Even if I did want to have myself cryonically suspended at death, I would want to be human on the other end, not some computer or robot.

In short, I went from transhumanist to humanist, though naturally I still do love to ponder new technologies.

Even with the popularity of the Internet, I just can't see humanity getting its geek on in sufficient numbers to make for a significantly large transhumanist movement.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Yeah, and the subject seems to freak some people out, lol.


While I'd be cautious, I'd love to transform my mind and body. The ability to control emotions at will have always been my dream. Although a lot of this is speculative. Pondering it can even make me nervous. Transhumans would be almost unrecognizable to normal humans. The sheer speed of change is mind blowing. A least on the psychological level..

 

[Zoness]

Honestly, no.

The allure of transhumanism strikes me as limited to a portion of technophiles, and I don't see that changing in the future, even if technology does improve greatly.

I used to be a transhumanist, but after some time I realized that I was fine with simply being human. I grew to suspect that it was more fun simply thinking about transhumanist technologies in a science fiction way than seriously planning to transform my body. Even if I did want to have myself cryonically suspended at death, I would want to be human on the other end, not some computer or robot.

In short, I went from transhumanist to humanist, though naturally I still do love to ponder new technologies.

Even with the popularity of the Internet, I just can't see humanity getting its geek on in sufficient numbers to make for a significantly large transhumanist movement.


eudaimonia,

Mark

My observation is that technology is consistently ahead of culture and social norms. I feel that if we were to have rapid breakthroughs in traditionally "transhumanist" areas of science, then more bad than good would come of it in the near term as human psychology would have to fundamentally alter to consider things such as longer lives or power beyond our current physical form.

I agree that transhumanism is interesting to ponder but I am okay with being human, too.

 

[Gxg (G²)]

@Zoness , Thinking as I observe more and more that White Supremacy has taken on a new form and we're really seeing the rise of Germanic Religions in the garb of Christianity.

• -A Coming Problem: Far-Right “Christian Paganism” (A Coming Problem: Far-Right "Christian Paganism" ).

As said best elsewhere, "Our present cultural moment in the evangelical Christian community reminds me of the "alternative facts" of second-century Gnosticism (recently brought back to life by Elaine Pagels at Princeton and Karen King at Harvard): Jesus' life, ethic, teachings, and physicality no longer matter. We have risen above all of that historical nonsense to arrive at a new subjective orientation of the heart that now makes one a Christian." ( Josh Rice )

 

[Trimeresurus]

Of course I see Pantheism or general "Spiritism" taking the biggest leap among religions for its information structure and almost entirely laissez-faire approach to beliefs.

That's what humans do.
They dump everything they had step by step bacause they can't stand that everything has its downside. They end up standing behind nothing. At this point they notice that something is missing. So they want spirituality back in their lifes. But as they still stand behind nothing they discover "general spiritism" and stuff like that. Asking why Islam is a stronger religious collective that will eventually push trough? That's why. More personal freedom means less group cohesion. Laissez-faire is weak.

 

[Arthra]

Wow this thread got resurrected after almost four years! and reading the early posts over it reminded me of some old friends of mine! I'm still in touch with Susan Maneck on another forum. I've lost touch with Bruce.