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Are we declared right with God before we give up sin is this what it means that justification proceeds sanctification?
Are we declared right with God before we give up sin is this what it means that justification proceeds sanctification?
I believe you are only justified while still in sin if you are practicing or in the process of, sanctification...
To those "trying" their best and within to each one their own ability with sin (unless of course their is some justified reason, and only God knows, a justified reason with God for NOT "trying")...
God Bless!
I don't understand what you mean?
I believe the only ones justified are the ones "trying their best" in the battle against sin.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Us "trying" doesn't save us, that is working, working does not bring salvation, period. Please don't give false answers to those who are genuinely seeking biblical counsel.
A Christian will struggle with sin their whole lives...BUT a true Christian will hate sin and long to walk in holiness. Furthermore a true Christian will grow in holiness as they live a more and more surrendered life, trusting in the power of the Holy Spirit within them.
You don't have to stop sinning to be saved, that would be salvation by works. However you must repent and believe in Christ alone. To repent means first of all to confess, and know in your heart, that you are a wicked sinner deserving of God's wrath. This is the first step.
Repentance also involves a hatred of your sinful self and a real desire to abandon your wicked ways and turn to God. To repent is to deny yourself and bow down before Christ for your salvation. It is to surrender your life to God once-and-for all, without condition, to cry out to God for mercy and fall to your knees in a humble embrace of his Lordship.
True repentance will produce within you a new heart and new affections, it will give you a hatred of sin and a love for holiness, a deep love for Christ, a love for fellow Christians, and a desire to be more like Jesus. Yes, you will still have struggles with sin but you will walk in newness of life, and sin will no longer enslave you.
Yes. One is justified, which means to be declared righteous, the very moment one repents and trusts in Christ. Justification is instantaneous and is NOT based on our performance. Our justification is based on the perfect performance of Christ, which is imputed to our account at the moment we are grafted into the New Covenant; ie, the moment of repentance and saving faith.Do you believe Justification comes before sanctification, or not?
Are we declared right with God before we give up sin is this what it means that justification proceeds sanctification?
Repentance unto salvation is a turning from your self-ruled ways to God in faithful surrender, and thereby entering into the New Covenant forged in the shed blood of Christ."Repentance" is for "forgiveness" of past sins
Correction; all of us. Who among us has lived a single day where they have loved God perfectly, with all their heart, soul, mind and strength? Every single day, every Christian alive breaks the greatest commandment.and since some of us sin everyday
God as I said will not force you to not sin, and probably won't remove "all" future temptations either, cause they are used by him for refining work in a believer, so, your personal free "will" and you still have to exercise your own "willpower" to not sin, cause God's not going to force you to not sin, but he presents you with choices to see how you will use your free will, or willpower that he gave you to chose or not choose to sin or not...
Repentance unto salvation is a turning from your self-ruled ways to God in faithful surrender, and thereby entering into the New Covenant forged in the shed blood of Christ.
Correction; all of us. Who among us has lived a single day where they have loved God perfectly, with all their heart, soul, mind and strength? Every single day, every Christian alive breaks the greatest commandment.
You seem to still be under the mistaken impression that our performance has something to do with our justification. It does not. If you are in Christ you are not judged, or damned, because of your sins. Why? Because Christ took the penalty for your sins and removed them as far as the east is from the west.
How many of your sins were future sins when Christ died? All of them. Do you get what I'm saying? I'm not denying that we play a cooperative role in our sanctification, I am only denying that a child a God can be damned for their failures.
We stand justified only by the imputed righteousness of Christ, and we will never come into condemnation because Christ paid the penalty for all of our sins. However, we can lose comfort, assurance, blessings, and eternal rewards for messing up in the sanctification process. But we CANNOT lose our justification and be damned.
No, you're missing the point. One who is saved is born-again, given a new nature. We don't obey God because we fear going to Hell, we obey him because we LOVE him and want to please him out of gratitude.You seem to be of the mind that we can sin all we want and still be saved,
I agree. You just said it yourself brother. If you bear no fruit, you do not have the love of God in you. Let me add one thing. If you do not have the love of God in you, you are not saved. I don't care how many prayers you prayed.I don't believe you really have the Love of God in you, if there's no fruit, and if your not resisting and shooting down temptation...
Yes, in terms of fellowship. If I sin and then don't confess and repent of it, my fellowship with God is broken and my graces and comforts are shattered until I do confess and repent. I know this from scripture and personal experience. It is a very dark place to be.It still requires confession and repentance, to get the forgiveness of your sin(s), get what I'm saying?
Yes but in yourself you can't do that. You are completely dependent on him and his grace. If perseverance was up to you or me, we'd fail without a doubt. We persevere because we are kept by the power of God through the faith he has given us (1 Peter 1:5).he wants to get back up and keep going, fight the good fight, press onward toward the goal
Are we declared right with God before we give up sin is this what it means that justification proceeds sanctification?