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muslims murder their own children every day in muslim countries. thats fact.

And Christians murder their own children every day in Christian countries, that is a fact too…

Just a few...

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no sympathy from me either. Israel backed out of gaza which should be their land, and let the arabs have it. what happened? IMMEDIATELY rockets start firing back at Israel. Israel cannot make peace with muslims because their religion teaches them they MUST kill ALL JEWS and they must kill or convert christians and all other faiths. muslims are trapped by their evil religion. Most girls in Gaza are married before age ten, nothing but SLAVES. children are taught in school to KILL JEWS. cartoons on tv teach them to kill jews. and the world is on the side of these MONSTERS? NOT ME. I am on Gods side, not the side of the enemies of God.

It's that SAME attitude that enables these types of messes.

"my God is better than your god. Now eat lead."
 
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American Christians murder their families here in America. This is a fact too.

Generally people face charges here in the US...

Bull. dropping a one-ton bomb on a neighborhood is most certainly trying to kill civilians.

Hamas is the one that violated the cease fire.
 
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Israel attacked Palestine first (as it so often does) and frames it as only defending itself when Palestine inevitably retaliates. They use the exact same arguments that should really be used by Palestinians and not Israelis. I don't even get how the occupier/invader gets to claim self-defense to the world in the first place.

Not true in this case.

Hamas violated the ceasefire in the run up to this incident. Basically a suicide bomber runs out of a tunnel and blows himself up killing 2 Israeli soldiers just 90 minutes after the 72 hour cease fire starts. Hamas then kidnap Second Lt. Hadar Goldin. The Israeli army then marches into the district from which the tunnel came looking for their man. They come under heavy fire in this heavily populated district and look like being overwhelmed. Artillery fire is called in and starts laying down a field of suppressing fire around the soldiers. Innocent civilians were killed by this fire. That is war! If these guys do not want their children killed then they should not start wars in these areas.
 
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Generally people face charges here in the US...

Sometimes. Just as it is in other countries.


Hamas is the one that violated the cease fire.

They both keep violating the ceasefire; also, it's not as simple as you're framing it to be, which is "It's all the Muslims' fault"
 
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Not true in this case.

Hamas violated the ceasefire in the run up to this incident. Basically a suicide bomber runs out of a tunnel and blows himself up killing 2 Israeli soldiers just 90 minutes after the 72 hour cease fire starts. Hamas then kidnap Second Lt. Hadar Goldin. The Israeli army then marches into the district from which the tunnel came looking for their man. They come under heavy fire in this heavily populated district and look like being overwhelmed. Artillery fire is called in and starts laying down a field of suppressing fire around the soldiers. Innocent civilians were killed by this fire. That is war! If these guys do not want their children killed then they should not start wars in these areas.

Weirdly the IDF have today released a statement changing their story announcing that he hadn't been kidnapped, but had died in battle in Rafah. Who knows what to believe.
 
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Weirdly the IDF have today released a statement changing their story announcing that he hadn't been kidnapped, but had died in battle in Rafah. Who knows what to believe.

Maybe they couldn't identify the body initially, we do know one terrorist's suicide vest went off.
 
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Weirdly the IDF have today released a statement changing their story announcing that he hadn't been kidnapped, but had died in battle in Rafah. Who knows what to believe.

Fog of war combined with probability that he was killed by a suicide bomber and it probably took forensic testing to conclusively identify the body.

So troops may have acted on the mistaken conviction he had been kidnapped.

IDF determines 2nd Lt. Hadar Goldin, previously considered captured in Gaza, is dead - Diplomacy and DefenseIsrael News - Haaretz Israeli News source
 
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I really hope that you didn't watch that video before saying that. Otherwise you seem to be a heartless person.

Anyway, throughout the video you could hear them saying, "Allaah (alone) is sufficient for us and He is the best disposer of affairs (for us)."

Regardless of how the world feels about them, all they need is God and His Pleasure.



Wooing the media? They're just showing the reality that has been their lives since the creation of Israel. Just because people chose to believe Israel's lies does not mean that what's happening now hasn't been taking place for decades. But finally the facts are coming to light and more people who were otherwise silent are outspoken about Israel's atrocities today than any other time I can remember. Most mainstream media is still mainly pro-Israel (or scared to go against Israel).

Hamas? This footage is taken by your average, non-combatant Palestinians (or humanitarian workers or journalists).

Israel under-uses social media? They are masters at spinning stories to portray themselves as victims just "defending" themselves. They invested a lot of time and effort into figuring out just how to be good (obviously lying) spin doctors.

What's also interesting is the fact that Israel has to pay for people to tweet about it favorably. However, even with all that:

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Israel paying people to tweet favorably about them....wow. There are so many inappropriate jokes that can be made about that :p.
 
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Israel paying people to tweet favorably about them....wow. There are so many inappropriate jokes that can be made about that :p.

Yeah- NPR talked about Israel's hired internet shills (they are actually notorious for it- but other countries do it too). You can tell when they're all on a news board en masse. For about two hours you'll see a variety of new and newish accounts all posting the same pro-israel talking points- calling for genocide and being racist and hateful- literally cheering for the deaths of innocent kids. Then- the next wave of shills from the other side will come through on the opposite end (though their rhetoric is toned down in comparison). I'm of the opinion that more than half of those types of posts are from hired shills.
 
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Also- for those of you who have no sympathy for the deaths of innocent civilians- many of whom were children- I think you'll be held accountable for your lack of compassion one day.

I think many people will be held accountable for siding with the enemies of Israel and by default siding with Islamic extremists....that includes many people who call themselves Christians....Our security in G-d is that He is Righteous and Holy and will judge truthfully.

I also think many Christians lack discernment about the times we live in and cannot see that what Israel is fighting against is already on our doorstep....I wonder how many innocent people our nations will kill in their attempt to stop the tide of Islam sweeping over us.
 
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Israel attacked Palestine first (as it so often does) and frames it as only defending itself when Palestine inevitably retaliates. They use the exact same arguments that should really be used by Palestinians and not Israelis. I don't even get how the occupier/invader gets to claim self-defense to the world in the first place.
Israel didn't attack first. List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, 2014 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I just don't know where people aere getting their information from since it is clearly wrong.

The problem with this is that the deaths in Shujaya are self inflicted and had nothing to do with Israel.
The self-inflicted massacre at Shijaiyah
There is some videos and picture of the what happened there so it can be rather gruesome, since we are dealing with death.
 
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I think many people will be held accountable for siding with the enemies of Israel and by default siding with Islamic extremists....that includes many people who call themselves Christians....Our security in G-d is that He is Righteous and Holy and will judge truthfully.

I also think many Christians lack discernment about the times we live in and cannot see that what Israel is fighting against is already on our doorstep....I wonder how many innocent people our nations will kill in their attempt to stop the tide of Islam sweeping over us.

You realize this is the same kind of mentality that causes these types of messes?

" my god is better than yours. Now we fight "
 
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