I'm wondering: What exactly is a Fundamentalist Christian?

Angelquill

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I'm curious.
I've been called a Fundamentalist (actually, the term used was "fundie", and I don't think it was meant as a compliment), but I don't actually know what that means.
So, what is a "Fundamentalist"?
And, could I be one?

Please don't misunderstand, I'm not insulting anyone. I'm just wondering what the word means.
Is there a particular set of beliefs attached to being a fundamentalist? Is it more of a way of thinking about God? What, exactly, is it?
 

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One can find what a Christian fundamentalist is in the CF sticky here:

Fundamentalist Christians Statement of Faith

Atheists made up the term "fundie" to express their blind hatred for Christians in general. Liberal unorthodox Christians also use that word a lot in their contempt for anyone who doesn't cheer for things like abortion and so-called "same-sex marriage." I've even been called a "fundie" by them even though it is ridiculous for them to call me that since I'm a Catholic. I am generally conservative but not a fundamentalist.

Edit: It was explained to me by Cubanito that Christian Fundamentalists wear the word "Fundamentalist" and even the word "Fundy" like a badge of honor precisely because of the intended ridicule of atheists when they use these words.
 
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I suppose I probably earned the title, as you say, by not cheering for same sex marriage or abortion. I am against both of these things, and not just because I am a Christian.

I do believe in creation (via "Intelligent Design"), but I'm not prepared to say that God did not use evolution to accomplish His design...although I am doubtful. The evidence seems to be a bit shaky.

What is an obscurantist...uh...what you said??

I have many Catholic friends, whom I love dearly. One of my very favorite people in the entire world is a Catholic teacher from Pennsylvania. She is a very special lady.
However, we simply must agree to disagree about the pope. I just can't see Peter as a pope...nor do I think that Jesus needs a vicar on earth. "Antichrist" may be a bit strong, although you have to admit, some of them have done some pretty reprehensible things.
Of course, that is just my thinking...yours is quite probably very different...
 
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A fundamentalist is anyone who gets his direction from primary or "fundamental" sources. For example, in the sock market a fundamentalist ignores trends and such and focuses on the intrinsic value of the stock and company Stock-Picking Strategies: Fundamental Analysis | Investopedia

As such, the core that defines a Christian fundamentalist is, or should be, elevation of the central documents of Chrisitnity above ANY other sort of authority. These documents are contained in the JEWISH canon of the Old Testament, finished before the arrival of Chirst AND the New Testament.

Thus what any man, whether he wears a funny hat (Pope, Archbishop or Patriarch), a white lab coat (scientist) or jumps around screaming that he/she has "a word from the Lord" (charismatic) is SECONDARY to whatever is written in the Bible. Oh, and confessional Churches like my own PCA make it very clear that documents like the Westminster Confession have written within them that they are derivative, secondary documents and if there be a contradiction between them and the Bible, the Bible is to be followed every time.

In this we have the example of JC who answered every temptation of Satan and most difficult questions by His detractors by first stating "It is WRITTEN..." followed by a direct quote from the old testament (the Bible of His day).

As such "Islamic fundamentalists" are usually NOT, as they place one of the Hadith (or Sunna) on equal footing with the unholy Koran. A true Islamic fundamentalist would not contradict the demonic Koran by doing such things as explicitly targeting non combatant women and children. Neither can an Anglican nor Roman "catholic" be rightly called a fundamentalist as they also elevate oral tradition above what is Bible. Jesus was CONSTANTLY at odds with the Pharisees because, like modern Judaism, the tradition of Rabbis were of greater import than the Law of Moses, or anything else in the Old Testament.

Unfortunately, many who call themselves Christian fundamentalists are not either! For example, in his early years John McArthur taught complete abstention from alcohol for all Christians which is CONTRARY to Scripture. While he still is very negative on alcohol, he has sort of backed off from that given the many of Biblical passages that actually state that, for example, "Do not drink only water, but have some wine for your stomach [Timothy]" and the command to drink at passover. Sometimes you see the absurdity of "fundamentalist Churches" that ban all members from dancing and women from wearing pants. So unfortunately a LOT of self-described fundamentalists substitute legalism and the traditions of men for the Bible.

There's eve some who are absurd enough to think the only Bible is the KJV translation
 
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I am an Old Fashioned "Fundamental" Baptist, and as such, here is what Fundamentalism was founded upon:

1. The verbal, plenary inspiration of the Scriptures in the original manuscripts.
2. The Trinity.
3. The Creation of man, the Fall into sin, and total depravity.
4. The universal transmission of spiritual death from Adam.
5. The necessity of the new birth.
6. Redemption by the blood of Christ.
7. Salvation by faith alone in Christ.
8. The assurance of salvation.
9. The centrality of Jesus Christ in the Scriptures.
10. The constitution of the true church by genuine believers.
11. The personality of the Holy Spirit.
12. The believer’s call to a holy life.
13. The immediate passing of the souls of believers to be with Christ at death.
14. The premillennial Second Coming of Christ.

1878 Niagara Bible Conference Creed

God Bless

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It was asked:

I'm curious...

So, what is a "Fundamentalist"?

I told.

In 1878, that is what Fundamentalism was founded upon.

God Bless

Till all are one.
 
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I don't affiliate myself with any denomination, nor do I call myself "non denominational"

Could I just be a Christian, and nothing else??????

HOW DARE YOU! You must choose sides and hate everybody that is not IDENTICAL in every respect to your belief system.

Deacon Dean has agreed to perform your inquisition in this matter, so comport thyself accordingly.

JR, of come on, laugh already, God is very gracious and we are all very confused.
 
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If anyone, would take the time to read and see where Fundamentalists came from, you would see that they sprung from Baptists, Presbyterians, and the Reformed community.

All one has to do is read: "The Fundamentals, A Testimony to the Truth" published between 1910 and 1920 and look at the contributing authors.

Nuff said.

I'm outta here.

God Bless

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Hmmm...
I believe the bible, and I don't believe in abortion or "gay marriage".

I was raised in the Episcopal church, but once I was grown with kids of my own, I left it. Since then, I've been a part of several different churches, kinda trying to figure out where I belong. I guess if I had to choose, Baptist or Methodist would be high on the list. I would definitely not choose to be a part of "the charismatic movement", so that would leave out any Pentecostal type denomination...
I've just not been able to find any church that thinks exactly as I do...so, what does that make me?
 
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Hmmm...
I believe the bible, and I don't believe in abortion or "gay marriage".

I was raised in the Episcopal church, but once I was grown with kids of my own, I left it. Since then, I've been a part of several different churches, kinda trying to figure out where I belong. I guess if I had to choose, Baptist or Methodist would be high on the list. I would definitely not choose to be a part of "the charismatic movement", so that would leave out any Pentecostal type denomination...
I've just not been able to find any church that thinks exactly as I do...so, what does that make me?

Yes it does.

You must go where the Holy Spirit leads, and where your convictions lead.

Would it proper to say your a "Protestant"?

Denominations are not a bad thing. Sooner or later, somewhere down the line, you will have to take a stand on what you believe.

Pentecostals aren't that bad. The only thing I have against them is the improper use by some churches (not all mind you) but by some in the exercise of the "gift of tongues".

I'm a Baptist, my ex brother-in-law is Church of God, and we agree more than we disagree.

He even went to seminary (Baptist) classes with me.

Just take you time, visit, look at what is being taught, look at what they believe in, and pray, pray, pray.

God will lead you where He wants you to be.

God Bless

Till all are one.
 
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A fundamentalist is anyone who gets his direction from primary or "fundamental" sources. For example, in the sock market a fundamentalist ignores trends and such and focuses on the intrinsic value of the stock and company Stock-Picking Strategies: Fundamental Analysis | Investopedia

As such, the core that defines a Christian fundamentalist is, or should be, elevation of the central documents of Chrisitnity above ANY other sort of authority. These documents are contained in the JEWISH canon of the Old Testament, finished before the arrival of Chirst AND the New Testament.

I am just wanting to make sure I understand you correctly: Are you denying the Canon of the New Testament?

Thus what any man, whether he wears a funny hat (Pope, Archbishop or Patriarch), a white lab coat (scientist) or jumps around screaming that he/she has "a word from the Lord" (charismatic) is SECONDARY to whatever is written in the Bible. Oh, and confessional Churches like my own PCA make it very clear that documents like the Westminster Confession have written within them that they are derivative, secondary documents and if there be a contradiction between them and the Bible, the Bible is to be followed every time.

I suppose the simple solution would be, to simply insure that the confession doesn't contradict the Bible. (Or would that be too easy, and make too much sense?)

In this we have the example of JC who answered every temptation of Satan and most difficult questions by His detractors by first stating "It is WRITTEN..." followed by a direct quote from the old testament (the Bible of His day).

While JR has an excellent point, we must not ignore the fact that Jesus established the New Testament by expanding upon the Old Testament Law of Moses (which is still God's Law), by the use of the term "but I say unto you".

Matthew 5: 21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne:

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

I do understand that Jesus said, "it hath been said"; nevertheless, he is still referring to the Mosaic Law.

As such "Islamic fundamentalists" are usually NOT, as they place one of the Hadith (or Sunna) on equal footing with the unholy Koran. A true Islamic fundamentalist would not contradict the demonic Koran by doing such things as explicitly targeting non combatant women and children. Neither can an Anglican nor Roman "catholic" be rightly called a fundamentalist as they also elevate oral tradition above what is Bible. Jesus was CONSTANTLY at odds with the Pharisees because, like modern Judaism, the tradition of Rabbis were of greater import than the Law of Moses, or anything else in the Old Testament.

I completely understand the "oral tradition" of the Catholics; but I would like you to be a bit more specific in regards to Anglicans. I believe that if we were all honest here, every 'church' has a few 'traditions' in their 'practice' of faith.

Unfortunately, many who call themselves Christian fundamentalists are not either! For example, in his early years John McArthur taught complete abstention from alcohol for all Christians which is CONTRARY to Scripture. While he still is very negative on alcohol, he has sort of backed off from that given the many of Biblical passages that actually state that, for example, "Do not drink only water, but have some wine for your stomach [Timothy]" and the command to drink at passover. Sometimes you see the absurdity of "fundamentalist Churches" that ban all members from dancing and women from wearing pants. So unfortunately a LOT of self-described fundamentalists substitute legalism and the traditions of men for the Bible.

I will not dive into "legalism" here, that is a different thread altogether.

There's eve some who are absurd enough to think the only Bible is the KJV translation

While this absurd statement was directed at me, the real absurdity is in the lack of understanding of this issue, from otherwise very educated people. I for one do not believe the “only Bible” is the King James translation. I would be a fool to believe that the word of God only exist in the English language. But since I am aware of the meaning of JR's statement; I offer the following for clarification (even though I have shared it many other times):

I believe the King James Bible is the only Bible that properly represents the word of God for English-speaking people.

Since 'absurdity' has been brought in this thread; what is really absurd, is to say that one believes the inerrancy of the scriptures “in the originals”, and then state that the Bibles we hold in our hands, is full of errors; while simultaneously declaring that our 'error filled Bibles' are to be the supreme authority in all matters of faith and practice.

Jack
 
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