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To the World I ask, Are we the Many Members of a Carnal Being, or a Spiritual Being?

Those who profess a Spiritual Being, and act like it, I liken unto a game of musical chairs, the first to be seated when the music stops the title of 144,000 will be theirs:
 
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I'm reminded of the verse that states there is no forgiveness without the sheding of blood. I'd post it but tablets stink for copy paste.

It goes back to the garden, and why...how God clothed Adam and Eve.


Amen brother shimshon...I saw your name and recognize the name Samson....the man of great strength....:)...

So it is my understanding that the shedding of the rams blood was a sin offering....unless I'm missing something
 
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To the World I ask, Are we the Many Members of a Carnal Being, or a Spiritual Being?

Those who profess a Spiritual Being, and act like it, I liken unto a game of musical chairs, the first to be seated when the music stops the title of 144,000 will be theirs:

Are you seeking to become one of the 144000....Brother laureate?.... Can one seek to be chosen?...was David chosen because he seek the Lord?...was Saul chosen because he persecuted the early church?

I thought it was hashem call....and his alone?
 
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Are you seeking to become one of the 144000....Brother laureate?.... Can one seek to be chosen?...was David chosen because he seek the Lord?...was Saul chosen because he persecuted the early church?

I thought it was hashem call....and his alone?

Solomon gave us the conclusion: keep the Torah, focus on your lifestyle and do Mitzvot (Eccl. 12:13), and leave the secret, the invisible or theoretical things to the secret realm, invisible realm or realm of theory (Deut. 29:29).
 
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I say, neither. God was testing Abraham's faith.

True Abvraham('s) Faith was carefully Examined, but for what? Do not over look the responsibilith and obligation of the birthright to govern the earth and it's inhabitants, for this blood line was preserved and intended to be a preistly Nation, and if preists then Mediaters to reconcile the World which Elobym so Loves, but was lost in sin:
 
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Solomon gave us the conclusion: keep the Torah, focus on your lifestyle and do Mitzvot (Eccl. 12:13), and leave the secret, the invisible or theoretical things to the secret realm, invisible realm or realm of theory (Deut. 29:29).

What does jezreel mean?....is it Judah and Israel combine name ?...which means what?

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What does jezreel mean?....is it Judah and Israel combine name ?...which means what?

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My point is that Torah is what matters, not theories and speculation about the invisible realm.
How a man is called or becomes one of the 144000 etc etc are theoretical matters that do not or should not affect the Mitzvot, which are the things that really matter (Eccl. 12:13).

Since you ask, I can tell you that Jezreel is a place in Israel (Jezreel is the English spelling of a Hebrew word that is translated "God sows".)
 
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My point is that Torah is what matters, not theories and speculation about the invisible realm.
How a man is called or becomes one of the 144000 etc etc are theoretical matters that do not or should not affect the Mitzvot, which are the things that really matter (Eccl. 12:13).

Since you ask, I can tell you that Jezreel is a place in Israel (Jezreel is the English spelling of a Hebrew word that is translated "God sows".)

Thank you. ..peace
 
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Yes but me thinks the testing involved love for humanity outside of his own blood

Ahhh, again there is a faint odor of validity in your words, let's see if the scriptures can enhance the essence therein, but first let me ask...

If a Father & Mother beget a Son in the morning, and in the afternoon beget another Son, are not these two Sons not only brothers, but are also considered Twins?

Now I know your answer should be, Yes!

Are we not counted K'bowd-Honorable to be our brothers keeper?

Again your answer should be, Yes!

Then why does not my fellow brothers acknowledge that We Have A Twin Brother?

Are not the ants, and the connies considered a people in the eyes of Elohym?

Yes!

Then why do we treat our elder twin brother (the animal kingdom) with such contempt, to this day he is not properly looked after, but eaten as if that was his purpose;

If Elohym stripped a people from their land for 70 years because they did give it rest, what should be done to those who scorn the responsibility to look after our own elder Twin Brother:

Something to chew on!
 
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True Abvraham('s) Faith was carefully Examined, but for what?
The covenant promise to inherit the kingdom after death, faith in the resurrection of the dead was the foundation of the covenant of circumcision to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.


1st covenant made with Abraham, in Gen 15. This covenant concerns the 4th Generation of his seed.
1. Abraham will die

Ge 15:15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age.

2. the second generation and third generation are also excluded in this covenant.
Ge 15:16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.

As the new covenant scripture teaches.
Here.....
Acts 7:2 And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran,
3 And said unto him, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and come into the land which I shall shew thee.
4 Then came he out of the land of the Chaldaeans, and dwelt in Charran: and from thence, when his father was dead, he removed him into this land, wherein ye now dwell.
5 And he gave him none inheritance in it, no, not so much as to set his foot on: yet he promised that he would give it to him for a possession, and to his seed after him, when as yet he had no child.
6 And God spake on this wise, That his seed should sojourn in a strange land; and that they should bring them into bondage, and entreat them evil four hundred years.

And here
Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

As Joseph the third generation of his seed also believed in the promise of the resurrection for his inheritance with his fathers.

Ex 13:19 And Moses took the bones of Joseph with him: for he had straitly sworn the children of Israel, saying, God will surely visit you; and ye shall carry up my bones away hence with you.

Do not over look the responsibilith and obligation of the birthright to govern the earth and it's inhabitants, for this blood line was preserved and intended to be a preistly Nation, and if preists then Mediaters to reconcile the World which Elobym so Loves, but was lost in sin:
I am not sure what all you mean in the above, however the right of the nation of Israel is a double portion, as firstborn. Having a share in BOTH covenants of promise. Concerning this world and this life, and the next world and the next life. Isaac, as Abraham's son was as an only born son. The sole heir of all that belonged to his father. The eternal kingdom of the next life.

Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,
18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:
19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.
 
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I have one more question for today

Well a few conserning Canaan

Who are they?
Is it believe they will be destroyed?
Why?

Nobody can prove this or that modern person is a Canaanite. The commandments that relate to Canaanites are not in effect, as is the case with the laws of the Temple. Knaan and Heykal are just not realities today. Same goes for Amalek, the one people in the world we are not supposed to have mercy on. We don't know who they are, so it does not matter.
 
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According to scripture I was not a Carnivore, I was a Cannibal.

Scripture commands us to eat lamb during pesach, so clearly the Biblical message is not one of vegetarianism (as is clear with Paul.) Indeed drinking blood (which is illegal) and eating (lamb's) flesh (which is legal) are throughout scripture held up as positive images of salvation, not something a vegetarian would do.
 
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Scripture commands us to eat lamb during pesach, so clearly the Biblical message is not one of vegetarianism (as is clear with Paul.) Indeed drinking blood (which is illegal) and eating (lamb's) flesh (which is legal) are throughout scripture held up as positive images of salvation, not something a vegetarian would do.
"Drink my blood" would be the opposing rally cry.
 
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Scripture commands us to eat lamb during pesach, so clearly the Biblical message is not one of vegetarianism (as is clear with Paul.) Indeed drinking blood (which is illegal) and eating (lamb's) flesh (which is legal) are throughout scripture held up as positive images of salvation, not something a vegetarian would do.

Biblical message???

The passover lamb, is what? Was it not Salvation for the disobedient? Long before the instructions to eat a lamb came the divine dietary instruction which included eating the flesh of no living person, what you call Vegitarian, I call obedience...

Tell me, if you know, what is better, Obedience, or Sacrifice?

The original dietary law was not to commemorate or remind us of anything, it is a diet for obedient children of the Most High, yet What is a Sacrifice, disgusting beings acctually look forward to eating something that Was, Is, and should always be considered a Most regretable act, to be performed Acquiescentlty:

Eating flesh had a purpose like Medicine, it was prescribed because of Sin ONLY, have you ever heard od a once and for all Sacrifice?

I have! Give Praise!
 
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