Blood Moon April 15, 2014: Lunar eclipse has Christians divided on End Times

That's a point of view anyway. Where the basis for allegorizing it comes from, is another thing.

:) You're thinking. I didn't cover every detail but I summed up (POV) the picture of the end-time play and how it may relate in parallel to the red moons prophecy, and it does seem to be in season, et al. I will take the time to read a summary if you are preparing one, I'd like to read what I might be missing. Thanks :)

BTW, here's a link http://www.openbible.info/topics/the_red_moon to the list of Bible verses that I read over and considered as I pieced the picture together. These are my source of allegorical imagery.
 
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So as long as they 'say' that they're partial preterists it's ok right..y
Ah, so the battle is against secret preterists, who claim they believe in the Lord's future return, but don't really. I see. Trust no one! Anyone here might be a surreptitious preterist! Even - dare I even say it? - you. Oh sure, you claim that you're fighting the good fight against the Evil Preterists, but that could all be a ruse to make you look trustworthy when all the while you secretly believe that our Lord returned in the First Century.

I'll be keeping an eye on you. :cool:
 
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Ah, so the battle is against secret preterists, who claim they believe in the Lord's future return, but don't really. I see. Trust no one! Anyone here might be a surreptitious preterist! Even - dare I even say it? - you. Oh sure, you claim that you're fighting the good fight against the Evil Preterists, but that could all be a ruse to make you look trustworthy when all the while you secretly believe that our Lord returned in the First Century.

I'll be keeping an eye on you. :cool:

2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 
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Given the small size and lack of attention, Id say the partial preterist safehouse thread is a real indicator of just how few Christians pay attention to any form of preterism..

That's usually because they're out and about actually being the hands and feet of Christ doing his work for the poor, oppressed and marginalized, not sitting on their hands trying to figure out when he'll return.

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That's usually because they're out and about actually being the hands and feet of Christ doing his work for the poor, oppressed and marginalized, not sitting on their hands trying to figure out when he'll return.

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Mat 6:2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

Mat 6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

Mat 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly
 
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The "Blood Moons" will come and go just like the dreaded Y2K did and it will make no difference whatsoever in history.
I loved Y2K! I heard every tale of how and why the world was gonna end with a thunderous crash of all the world's software, and as a software engineer was often called upon to endorse some stupid idea put forth by someone who knew nothing more of 'puters and software than he did of brain surgery. They were all disappointed when I told 'em that their ideas that *everything* was date driven was dumb, and that the "Y2K Bug" was gonna prove to be an annoyance and nothing more.

I have noticed that just about everyone has gone to 4 byte years, though, apparently to war off tthe dreaded Y3K bug in the year 3000. :doh:
 
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I loved Y2K! I heard every tale of how and why the world was gonna end with a thunderous crash of all the world's software, and as a software engineer was often called upon to endorse some stupid idea put forth by someone who knew nothing more of 'puters and software than he did of brain surgery. They were all disappointed when I told 'em that their ideas that *everything* was date driven was dumb, and that the "Y2K Bug" was gonna prove to be an annoyance and nothing more.

I have noticed that just about everyone has gone to 4 byte years, though, apparently to war off tthe dreaded Y3K bug in the year 3000. :doh:

Y2k had nothing to do with God.. More of a really bad conspiracy theory..


The moon however does. God set the moon for signs amongst other things..

Gen 1:14 Then God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years;


The Bible is pretty specific in this regard..
 
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Anything but the simple God's honest truth of Israel being delivered in the time of the end..

Anything but that.. simply because that is what end time truth is all about.. The Deliverer coming from Sion and turning away ungodliness from Jacob..

Because long ago the rulers of this dark world duped most of the world into thinking that the church is now Israel.. so they all ignored the mystery and become wise in their own conceits.. And now there's simply no way to admit that.. so it's a matter of religious pride.
 
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Anything but the simple God's honest truth of Israel being delivered in the time of the end..

Anything but that.. simply because that is what end time truth is all about.. The Deliverer coming from Sion and turning away ungodliness from Jacob..

Because long ago the rulers of this dark world duped most of the world into thinking that the church is now Israel.. so they all ignored the mystery and become wise in their own conceits.. And now there's simply no way to admit that.. so it's a matter of religious pride.

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Y2k had nothing to do with God.
Sure it did! God created every software guy who used a 2 byte year! And every "futurist" in those days knew that the End Was At Hand.

Buddy of mine was a Nazarene preacher. Back in '99 he was on a pastoral visit to one of his congregation, a very devout elderly lady. During his visit, the old saint asked him if he wasn't excited to know that they'd both probably see the Lord's return in just a few months. Jeff told her that we should all be ready for Christ's return at any time, since He would come when we least expected Him. The old granny looked shocked, and asked my buddy if he didn't realize that our Savior was going to return in the year 2000. Jeff had not (and has not) developed the useful talent for doubletalk, so he told her straight out that the Lord would return when it was His good pleasure to do so, and though it might be in 2000, it could also be any time between right now and a long, long, long time. Her shock turned to anger, and she asked Jeff why he didn't believe the Bible, since John Hagee and Texe Marrs had explained that the Bible clearly taught that the year 2000 had to be the end of time. Not wanting to upset the old lady any more than she already was, Jeff told her that he thought that perhaps John and Texe had overstated their cases just a bit. That tore it. Granny screeched that she had no time for a so-called preacher who didn't even believe the Bible, that he should leave her house at once, and that he should never expect her nor any of her family to darken th door of his church ever again. They didn't, either.

So yeah, y'all know now that God had nothing to do with the Y2K idiocy, but most of you sure didn't then. Your moon tetrads no more likely to have any "prophetic" significance than did Y2K. Yeah, God put the moon where it is and established its orbit, and arranged the length of days, and by His design it happens that some events happen on certain days. But the Bible never said anything about "tetrads", or about multiples of "blood moons", or any of the other stuff that y'all are nattering about. It's Y2K all over again, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

More of a really bad conspiracy theory..
Not really. We used two byte years because the standard format was MMDDYY, and nobody expected anything they wrote in 1980 to still be running in 2000.

The moon however does. God set the moon for signs amongst other things..
And people decide when the moon is a *sign* and when it's just the moon.

Gen 1:14 Then God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years;
Great argument in favor of astrology, isn't it? ;)

The Bible is pretty specific in this regard..
Nothing there that supports these "blood moons" (a modern concept, anyway) being anything special, and more than Y2K was. Sound and fury, signifying nothing.
 
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I'd say planks in this case.. ;)
Yeah, that's precisely the illustration our Lord was making, wasn't it?

Oh, but I forgot, that wasn't prophecy, so it doesn't matter all that much to you, does it? ;)
 
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Yeah, that's precisely the illustration our Lord was making, wasn't it?

Oh, but I forgot, that wasn't prophecy, so it doesn't matter all that much to you, does it? ;)

Yep, anything but the simple truth.. let's make this about you and I rather than what it is truly about..

Israel being delivered in the time of the end..

You may not be able to stomach the thought.. and I can understand why.. although that is the fact of the matter and yet you must simply scoff because you've bought into the ridiculous nonsense of amillennialism..

And there's no way out..

Well, no way out if you or your assembly is infallible that is..
 
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Nothing there that supports these "blood moons" (a modern concept, anyway) being anything special, and more than Y2K was. Sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Sure.

If you look at the last three tetrads, you notice one common denominator.

The Jews.

Its simple.


Now, if this current tetrad is anything like the last three, then Israel should see a significant conflict in the future..


Even you have to look at it and stretch it to make it a pure coincidence, the evidence is very strong.


But then again, like I said.. It doesn't take a genius or a blood moon to see Israel is going to be involved in a war very soon..


I hope Im wrong.
 
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And there may be some intentionally placed in forums such as these, who continue to fan the flames of war and who being unstable (unjustified) and unlearned twist Pauls epistles as they do the prophets to attempt to keep the public supporting one agenda or another.

Like another poster said, Hagee would be in character to lose weight, strap on the backpack, and head to Iran or Syria.

Furthermore, how many times have his "prophecies" been off? I think Parousia used to keep track of peoples failed predictions on the forum. I may be thinking of another forum.
 
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slow down there brother Jip.

You've missed a few things and then already pressed the lust button!

In forty years of research on the Jewish War and those times I hardly ever met a person who believed that Christ returned right after that in the full cosmic sense. They might have meant a variation on doing what the messianic age of the OT was supposed to accomplish, but not any sort of a replacement for the end of time.

Mt 24A is indeed about the events of 66+ (and a few other events earlier in those times). That is the normal reading of the passage. The normal sense of the intro would never fling a person X000 years away. You know this from the attention to the destiny and the auspicious generation of Israel between 30-70 as Jesus speaks of it in ch 21 (the vineyard) ch 22 (the wedding invitees) ch 23 (the condemned and desolate house). All that sets up 24A in no uncertain terms (just connect the dots about desolation; that's the most instructive thing).

The 'Deliverer' who came to Zion in Rom 11's quote of Isaiah is historic. Paul was referring to the Gospel events. That's too bad if you think Paul was demeaning the promises at all, but Acts 13's sermon (the one official, apostolic sample sermon about the times and meaning of Israel) makes it quite clear: the resurrection is the deliverance of all mankind, Jew or Gentile. Nothing was meant to be about the land per se, and it rather fades from attention as the NT goes on. I'm sure they did not want to see the catastrophe of zealot Judaism happen, but in the same sense we did not want to see the crucifixion happen either.
 
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