Why did God create Lucifer with the pride or whatever it was that made him rebel?

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You got that wrong! Adam was set in the Garden to dress and keep it!

And no, Cherub is not "fullnes of knowledge" -"full and knowledge" have different Hebrew etymons than "cherub" does. IT is totally impossible to get "fullness of knowledge" from "cherub".

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שָׂבַע saba` full




h3045
יָדַע yada`to know


h3742
כְּרוּב kĕruwb

Alright, it doesn't literally mean fullness of knowledge, but that nonetheless what the word interprets


*From the Catholic Encyclopedia*:

The word cherub (cherubim is the Hebrew masculine plural) is a word borrowed from the Assyrian kirubu, from karâbu, "to be near", hence it means near ones, familiars, personal servants, bodyguards, courtiers. It was commonly used of those heavenly spirits, who closely surrounded the Majesty of God and paid Him intimate service. Hence it came to mean as much as "Angelic Spirit"..............................

............Cherubim means the Seat of the Glory of God and is interpreted: Fullness of Knowledge. Though we realize that cherubim are exalted heavenly powers and virtues; yet if thou wilt, thou too shalt be one of the cherubim. For if cherubim means, Seat of God, remember what the Scripture says: The soul of the just is the Seat of Wisdom.
 
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Oh the irony of this thread. At least i'm never disappointed to read in it as it produces many laughs. The fact that Christian will even argue over the origin of evil is really funny.:clap::clap::clap:
Keep up the good work. :doh::doh: (that is sarcasm in case you didn't see it as such)
 
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God is speaking to an Adam....not Satan, but an Adam.

In context, look at the Hebrew wording. He calls him "Adam".

The Hebrew in no wise says what the English translators made it out to be!
Ezekiel 28:8,9
They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas. Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? *but thou art Adam*, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.

Satan was not and is not an Adam -nor was he ever a cherub! the tempter in the Garden was not called a cherub, and the word for serpent in that passage is the same for the Serifs.


Adam was certainly in the garden of God.

However Adam was not “covered” with precious stones.

Nor was tabrets and pipes prepared in Adam when he was created.

God is speaking to a cherub that was anointed and covers.

Ezek 28:13-14

13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
KJV

Cherubs were place to keep the way of the tree of life.

Gen 3:24
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life. KJV

Cherubs are also the class of angels that are over the mercy seat of God.

Ex 25:19-21
19 And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof.

20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.

21 And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee. KJV

Lucifer/Satan is “the anointed cherub that covereth” whom God was talking to in Ez. 28:12-19.

The word cherub is used 30 times in the OT.

Course.

Everybody may not have read all the verses.
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Originally Posted by SwordFall
Satan is compatible with being a cherub, because cherub literally means "fullness of knowledge".
Being that Satan was basically the keeper of knowledge, it just makes sense that he would be a cherub.

On the other hand, serifs are noted often as being God's caretakers, and Satan was indeed keeping the Garden. So in reality, Satan could actually be seen as both.


You got that wrong! Adam was set in the Garden to dress and keep it!

And no, Cherub is not "fullnes of knowledge" -"full and knowledge" have different Hebrew etymons than "cherub" does. IT is totally impossible to get "fullness of knowledge" from "cherub".

h7646
שָׂבַע saba` full




h3045
יָדַע yada`to know


h3742
כְּרוּב kĕruwb
Cherub has etymons in common with glory.



& It is "Adam" who is cast down and out of Eden, not Satan.


כְּרוּב kĕruwb cherub

כָּבַד kabad to be honored, to be heavy, glory....
 
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...Adam was certainly in the garden of God.

However Adam was not “covered” with precious stones.

Nor was tabrets and pipes prepared in Adam when he was created.

God is speaking to a cherub that was anointed and covers.




:)
Adam was made to glorify the Creator and to be a house for His glory - and the souls saved become precious stones in God's House!
We are fallen, and the redeemed get back, in the New Man name, what Adam lost -and we are seed from the loins of the first Adam and lost it all too.

Tabrets and pipes are prepared in Adam, for which to glorify God!
Tabrets and pipes are sockets and hollows for which to set gems.
The jewels in the high priests breast represented the twelve tribes of Israel.

Exd 28:17 And thou shalt set in it settings of stones, even four rows of stones: the first row shall be a sardius, a topaz, and a carbuncle: this shall be the first row.
Exd 28:18 And the second row shall be an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond.
Exd 28:19 And the third row a ligure, an agate, and an amethyst.


Exd 28:20 And the fourth row a beryl, and an onyx, and a jasper: they shall be set in gold in their inclosings.
Exd 28:21 And the stones shall be with the names of the children of Israel, twelve, according to their names, like the engravings of a signet; every one with his name shall they be according to the twelve tribes.




Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Rev 21:18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.

Rev 21:19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
Rev 21:20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

Rev 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.


God was not speaking to Satan.

Cherubim have four faces: Adam face, Ox/Cherub face; Eagle face; Lion face
And hooves like oxen and hands like Adam....-narry a twisting serpent among them!

Eze 1:10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of an Adam, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

Eze 10:14 And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of a cherub, and the second face was the face of an Adam, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.
 
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God does have a Plan A and no plan b.

We agree on that.

God is also totally just in everything He does.

God is totally just in the way He deals with every being.

Either man or angel or demon or evil spirit.

In Lucifer's/ Satan's case God is also totally just in the way He deals with him.

Remember, though, that "just" is not what you or I think it is. Just is what God does. Whatever God does.

For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.


One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’” Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for ignoble purpose?


What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory? -- Romans 9


If God created Lucifer for the specific purpose of being a liar to mankind, He has the perfect right to do so, and however God finally disposes of this creature that has performed as he has been created, God will be perfectly just in so because God's actions define justice...not the other way around.


If the objects of God's mercy were prepared in advance for glory, then the objects of His wrath were also prepared in advance for destruction.


Calvinists believe this refers to mankind, the elect and the unelect. I would argue that point, but I would definitely agree that it does refer to Satan, as scripture says about the pharaoh, created as an ignoble vessel for the purpose he has served.
 
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Not unreliable, but innocent, without knowledge of good and evil, just like Adam who was created in His Image. The Lamb of God is innocent.

How can you say that God was innocent without knowledge of good and evil when scripture says this:

And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. Genesis 3

Knowledge, did He foreknow Lucifer would fall? It's nowhere in the Bible.
Hebrew Lexicon :: H3045 (KJV)
The Lamb was slain before He recreated the earth, the foundation of the world isn't the foundation of the earth, the beginning when He created heavens and earth. Before that Lucifer fell and the whole world of old was destroyed.

I don't accept the "two creation" theory, but let's go with it for a moment. You're saying that omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent God created a second world--with a malevolent Satan already in it. And God did nothing about that problem.

It is said, "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me." Even in your version, God knows about Satan by the time He creates Adam and Eve.

He would have been unreliable if He wanted to create us and have knowledge of good and evil and therefore created a creature He knew would turn into satan.

In your version, God creates a new world with an evil Satan running loose in it. Since the god in your theory is naive and does not will to have Satan in His plan and His work, then is He unable to deal with Satan....in your theory. He's also not only less than omniscient, He's not quite as smart as a lot of humans, if He was taken totally by surprise by Lucifier's fall.
 
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Remember, though, that "just" is not what you or I think it is. Just is what God does. Whatever God does.

For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.


Remember what David said:
With the merciful You will show Yourself merciful... -Ps 18:25

Which was echoed by the Son of David:
Blessed are the merciful,
For they shall obtain mercy.
-Mat 5:7

One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’” Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for ignoble purpose?
He certainly does, through the choices made by the clay. "Choose this day..." ought not be ignored.


What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction?
What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory? -- Romans 9


If God created Lucifer for the specific purpose of being a liar to mankind, He has the perfect right to do so, and however God finally disposes of this creature that has performed as he has been created, God will be perfectly just in so because God's actions define justice...not the other way around.
Justice is not hard to understand: it's perfectly fair. The problem for those kept in chains is the perversion of the attributes of God. They cannot see Him, nor can they worship Him nor can they delight in His nature, and as such their hearts are not upright, so they turn to some other image which is hostile to everything God made, and they strip themselves of the good things He has provided. It's a fitting punishment, and they have no complaint against God because He revealed Himself, but they chose to reject Him and so He chose their delusion for them (Isa 66:4).

But as for those who chose rightly:

Blessed is the man You choose,
And cause to approach You,
That he may dwell in Your courts.
We shall be satisfied with the goodness of Your house,
Of Your holy temple.
-Ps 65:4

For a day in Your courts is better than a thousand.
I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God
Than dwell in the tents of wickedness.
For the LORD God is a sun and shield;
The LORD will give grace and glory;
No good thing will He withhold
From those who walk uprightly.
-Ps 84:10,11

If the objects of God's mercy were prepared in advance for glory, then the objects of His wrath were also prepared in advance for destruction.
You're probably right.

Make the heart of this people dull,
And their ears heavy,
And shut their eyes;
Lest they see with their eyes,
And hear with their ears,
And understand with their heart,
And return and be healed.
Then I said, “Lord, how long?” And He answered:
“Until the cities are laid waste and without inhabitant,
The houses are without a man,
The land is utterly desolate
-Isa 6:10,11
 
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Adam was made to glorify the Creator and to be a house for His glory - and the souls saved become precious stones in God's House! <--says who/where? besides u; sources pls.
We are fallen, and the redeemed get back, in the New Man name, what Adam lost -and we are seed from the loins of the first Adam and lost it all too. <-- What this "we" bizness? declaration over yourself maybe mate, but this Childs' faith is in "born-again" righteousness of Christ type thinking-believing, and who I was is NOT who I am. I am a walking, talking miracle of ABBA & tks to HIS promises, only my " old B-day suit" is getting "tossed/torched" (whatever God says/does); is my understanding presently.

Tabrets and pipes are prepared in Adam, for which to glorify God!
Tabrets and pipes are sockets and hollows for which to set gems.
(<--above--->)"sounds great", could be so but again, sources? & your interp?
The jewels in the high priests breast represented the twelve tribes of Israel. <--Clearly understood (tho' I haven't ck'd it out in the Hebrew for total confirmation....) still, I'm not "making the bigger-connection" methinks u are putting forth. Can u clarify some more pls?

Exd 28:17 And thou shalt set in it settings of stones, even four rows of stones: the first row shall be a sardius, a topaz, and a carbuncle: this shall be the first row.
Exd 28:18 And the second row shall be an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond.
Exd 28:19 And the third row a ligure, an agate, and an amethyst.


Exd 28:20 And the fourth row a beryl, and an onyx, and a jasper: they shall be set in gold in their inclosings.
Exd 28:21 And the stones shall be with the names of the children of Israel, twelve, according to their names, like the engravings of a signet; every one with his name shall they be according to the twelve tribes.




Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Rev 21:18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.

Rev 21:19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
Rev 21:20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

Rev 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.


God was not speaking to Satan.

Cherubim have four faces: Adam face, Ox/Cherub face; Eagle face; Lion face
And hooves like oxen and hands like Adam....-narry a twisting serpent among them!

Eze 1:10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of an Adam, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

Eze 10:14 And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of a cherub, and the second face was the face of an Adam, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.

all this to prove speaking to ha'adam (mankind; leave "the man" for the newbies, pls) vs. ha'satan??? OR...am I missing the "bigger picture/point?"
 
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the tempter in the Garden was not called a cherub, and the word for serpent in that passage is the same for the Serifs.
I heard the tempter in the garden was not satan directly, but Belial, who will posess the antichrist and who was judged (the prince of the world)when Jesus came. A cherub doesn't need a body of an animal to speak to someone.
 
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Adam was a man not a Cherub which is an angel.

God was speaking to an angel which was Lucifer.

16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

You do have a unique "view" of it.:)
He speaks to the cherub and to the man (antichrist).
Ezekiel 28:
first the prince of Tyre, a man, then in verse 11 the king of Tyre (satan, who was Lucifer).
 
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I heard the tempter in the garden was not satan directly, but Belial, who will posess the antichrist and who was judged (the prince of the world)when Jesus came. A cherub doesn't need a body of an animal to speak to someone.
Belial is Satan. Satans are evil spirits in heaven. You will find them all over the OT. doing their job which they were created to do. They weed out the unworthy who will believe their lies rather than the Word of God, and so, they test the saints and the holy angels, for the Creator.


There are many satans, with one chief. They are evil spirits, not holy angels.
They were created to be what they are.
Their reward for being what they are and doing a god job for the Creator who created them to be what they are created to be is the the eternal" feasting" upon the torment and affliction of the damned who are cast into the Lake of Fire -which is the kingdom of darkness where no Light is and where no one cast there ever has a possibility of being transformed into a Son of God.

The damned cast there for torment and torture are:
1) the demons who are disembodied spirits of the nephillim, who never get their bodies back in resurrection of them because they are stolen flesh of Adam kind bodies got by illegal unlawful mixing of kinds when their fathers -fallen holy angels called "Watchers"- took daughters of Adam and got offspring by gene splicing.

2) the fallen Watcher angels

3) those of Adam's seed who never repent and seek the Light that lights them from the time they come into their Adam being, as seed of the firstborn of the kind, come to fruit in their time and season ordained in the Book of Life, where all their parts and members and days are written, and who get blotted out of the Book of Life -though they were written there for redemption by the Blood of the Kinsman-Redeemer -they willfully refuse the Light and do not seek, or find the Light =Christ come in flesh- and reject Him by blaspheming His name and rejecting what they know by revelation of the holy Spirit to them about the Light/Christ, and so, their name is blotted out.

The tormenters are the Satans, whose food and drink is to torment and afflict their prey for all eternity.
The satan who tempted Eve in the Garden is named in the Book of Enoch, but the entire class of Satans are under one chief.
Abbadon/Destruction/Appolyon/Death are a class of "angels of destruction/ satans" in themselves.
The chief/prince of the satans is "Prince Ma-Stema", as named in the Book of Jubilees.
 
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Don't think so. I believe He created them good, Lucifer was perfect. They wanted to sin, it was not God who wanted it this way, they had free will.
Lucifer is not the name of Satan nor is it a proper noun in the Hebrew -ask the Jewish Rabbi's, they willl tell you.
This is a Christian myth.

Satan was created as an evil spirit and there is an entire class of them in heaven. His evil is perfection as to his being, for he was created to do God's work and he does it well and he has his rewards a-coming.
 
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Don't think so. I believe He created them good, Lucifer was perfect. They wanted to sin, it was not God who wanted it this way, they had free will.

There is no concept of "free will" in scripture. And "perfect" merely means it meets God's intention...it doesn't mean "nice person." The pharaoh that opposed Moses was "perfect" for God's purpose. Satan torturing and tempting Job was "perfect" for God's purpose. The lying spirit (which was Satan, who Jesus identified as the father of lies) sent to Ahab was "perfect" for God's purpose.
 
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Lucifer is not the name of Satan nor is it a proper noun in the Hebrew -ask the Jewish Rabbi's, they willl tell you.
This is a Christian myth.

Satan was created as an evil spirit and there is an entire class of them in heaven. His evil is perfection as to his being, for he was created to do God's work and he does it well and he has his rewards a-coming.

You certainly have a "unique" view of this subject.

Satan was created as Lucifer.

Rebelled against God after convincing a third of the angels to follow him.

Was kicked out of heaven.

Isa 14:12-15

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
KJV
 
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You certainly have a "unique" view of this subject.

Satan was created as Lucifer.

Rebelled against God after convincing a third of the angels to follow him.

Was kicked out of heaven.

Isa 14:12-15

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
KJV

That happened during or after the Incarnation of Christ. Clearly, Satan still had a place in heaven during the times of Job and Ahab...or do you think he had to be ejected from heaven twice?
 
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You certainly have a "unique" view of this subject.

Satan was created as Lucifer.

Rebelled against God after convincing a third of the angels to follow him.

Was kicked out of heaven.

Isa 14:12-15

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
KJV

If by unique you mean correct you'd be right. It is a very bad translation.
 
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