Egypt, Muslims slaughter 10 year old girl

[GoodSpeed1]

Actually in another thread he skips that and goes straight to advocating genocide.

No that was the other poster.
I stated that I said I 'feared' that was what was required.
That is a fear of mine ... can you imagine if muslims like in Egypt just continue to murder each other in the streets until none of them are left?? I personally could NEVER take the life of ANY human and this is why I cannot serve as a police officer or in the military -- I will never take a life so don't talk about genocide in any post with reference to myself.

That doesn't frighten you? I don't know what is more frightening -- the muslims killing each other or people like you saying that they are peaceful.

You just keep pretending there isn't a problem and maybe it will go away ...

 

[EnemyOfReason]

Have you NOT heard of profiling?? that is what profiling is.

I am laughing out loud right now ...

I didn't say that you TREAT them like terrorists but you are required to watch and listen ... to pick up on a potential terrorist threat before lives are lost.

We are being monitored right now for posting on this thread. If you don't know that you are naïve.

I apologize but I can see you really don't understand enough to discuss any further.

Even Obama realized one cannot play nice with this issue hence the current NSA deals which were entirely justified (and known by me years ago). You cannot through a blanket saying innocent around a rabid dog and expect that to change the dog.

We are covering up the truths in America and we do not wish to be harsh on Islam. I am not saying profiling nor acts of physical aggression. We just need to be honest about what Muslims have been doing and paint a picture of shame so Muslims can realize their own destruction as even they do not know the truth sadly.

When this occurs Muslims will be shoved into a dark corner and finally learn to be civil. The ulema and shaykhs are not helping and only seek to progress bigotry and Islamist idiocy

 

[mpok1519]

Have you NOT heard of profiling?? that is what profiling is.

I am laughing out loud right now ...

I didn't say that you TREAT them like terrorists but you are required to watch and listen ... to pick up on a potential terrorist threat before lives are lost.

We are being monitored right now for posting on this thread. If you don't know that you are naïve.

I apologize but I can see you really don't understand enough to discuss any further.

I'm aware of what religious and racial profiling is. And it's immorality.

So please back out of the conversation if you must; I cannot sympathize with someone who believes profiling to be an ethical practice.

The OK city bombing happened before 9-11. Imagine your disdain if suddenly white Christians were profiled as apart of terrorist investigations.

 

[EnemyOfReason]

People fail to realize that I like many others are not trying to rid the world of Islam but trying to reform it. You cannot reform beasts by saying it is innocent. You must bring harsh and aggressive intellectual attacks to it in order for it to settle down.

These false Islamic Reform Movements do nothing as they only propagate the same drivel day after day. People must learn about Islam and the events in the Ummah to see the reality of it.
When honest discourse is done then peace can come about.

 

[EnemyOfReason]

I'm aware of what religious and racial profiling is. And it's immorality.

So please back out of the conversation if you must; I cannot sympathize with someone who believes profiling to be an ethical practice.

The OK city bombing happened before 9-11. Imagine your disdain if suddenly white Christians were profiled as apart of terrorist investigations.

Nobody is asking for racial profiling. Most Muslims are not even Arabs so good luck with racial profiling. I was a Muslim and not even of Asian descent.

What me and GoodSpeed1 are asking for is to not ignore Muslims as being wholly innocent. If a Muslim does wrong this should not be a moment of the defense of Islam but the chastisement of such behavior.

We cannot brush aside murderers in order to create false peace.

 

[GoodSpeed1]

I'm aware of what religious and racial profiling is. And it's immorality.

So please back out of the conversation if you must; I cannot sympathize with someone who believes profiling to be an ethical practice.

The OK city bombing happened before 9-11. Imagine your disdain if suddenly white Christians were profiled as apart of terrorist investigations.

When we must decide between the rights of people to practice their passion/interest/belief and saving peoples lives I will vote on the side of saving lives.
David Koresh, and any other example radical Christian groups are NO different than islam -- just another radical group.
Thank God for our intelligence agencies and the countless lives they have saved that we will never even know about.

 

[mpok1519]

People fail to realize that I like many others are not trying to rid the world of Islam but trying to reform it. You cannot reform beasts by saying it is innocent. You must bring harsh and aggressive intellectual attacks to it in order for it to settle down.

These false Islamic Reform Movements do nothing as they only propagate the same drivel day after day. People must learn about Islam and the events in the Ummah to see the reality of it.
When honest discourse is done then peace can come about.

Ok. Where is the "intellectual" attack? I see none here.

Basically what you are advocating is marginalization and propaganda against an entire religion.

Hardly intellectual.

 

[mpok1519]

When we must decide between the rights of people to practice their passion/interest/belief and saving peoples lives I will vote on the side of saving lives.
David Koresh, and any other example radical Christian groups are NO different than islam -- just another radical group.
Thank God for our intelligence agencies and the countless lives they have saved that we will never even know about.

A) there is no profiling of white "Christians" as potential terrorists.

B) what proof is there religious and racial profiling has been used to prevent terrorism?


So, the question still stands; do you advocate criminalizing certain religions?

 

[mpok1519]

Nobody is asking for racial profiling. Most Muslims are not even Arabs so good luck with racial profiling. I was a Muslim and not even of Asian descent.

What me and GoodSpeed1 are asking for is to not ignore Muslims as being wholly innocent. If a Muslim does wrong this should not be a moment of the defense of Islam but the chastisement of such behavior.

We cannot brush aside murderers in order to create false peace.

You're aware someone is innocent until they've committed a crime. And being Muslim is not a crime. Nor is a Muslim someone who should be treated as a potential criminal simply bc of their religion.

Imagine if you were profiled and treated as a second class citizen bc you're Christian. Not a happy time, agree?

 

[GoodSpeed1]

do you advocate criminalizing certain religions?

WHAT!?!? (Obviously??) No.
There is a difference between criminalizing a religion and keeping an eye on it.
Please step up to the level of conversation here.

And NO it is not happy ... and no I would not like it if Christians were profiled. BUT public safety is #1. End of story.

 

[mpok1519]

Nobody is asking for racial profiling. Most Muslims are not even Arabs so good luck with racial profiling. I was a Muslim and not even of Asian descent.

What me and GoodSpeed1 are asking for is to not ignore Muslims as being wholly innocent. If a Muslim does wrong this should not be a moment of the defense of Islam but the chastisement of such behavior.

We cannot brush aside murderers in order to create false peace.

And we cannot lump together a whole religion as potential murderers.

Sorry.

 

[mpok1519]

WHAT!?!? (Obviously??) No.
There is a difference between criminalizing a religion and keeping an eye on it.
Please step up to the level of conversation here.

And NO it is not happy ... and no I would not like it if Christians were profiled. BUT public safety is #1. End of story.

So you'd be okay with profiling white Christians if "safety" was the justifiable reason for it?

 

[GoodSpeed1]

So you'd be okay with profiling white Christians if "safety" was the justifiable reason for it?

Yes - It is up to the intelligence agency if they feel there is a potential threat.
For example with the IRA in Northern Ireland this might be an example ...

 

[mpok1519]

Yes - It is up to the intelligence agency if they feel there is a potential threat.
For example with the IRA in Northern Ireland this might be an example ...

Interesting. So if tomorrow you were profiled as a potential terrorist because you're a Christian, you'd be okay with that?

You promise you wouldn't cry persecution?

 

[GoodSpeed1]

Interesting. So if tomorrow you were profiled as a potential terrorist because you're a Christian, you'd be okay with that?

You promise you wouldn't cry persecution?

I have answered you already. YES.

 

[EnemyOfReason]

And we cannot lump together a whole religion as potential murderers.

Sorry.

Well sorry to burst your bubble but I never claimed such a thing, you did. Also how can you lump a religion together when by definition a religion is a singular unit not a multiplicity.

Your failure is at least humorous

 

[EnemyOfReason]

Interesting. So if tomorrow you were profiled as a potential terrorist because you're a Christian, you'd be okay with that?

You promise you wouldn't cry persecution?

Is he a David Koresh Christian or just a regular Christian.

Is he wearing a T-shirt saying "David Koresh lives forever"?

 

[mpok1519]

I have answered you already. YES.

Lol

Sorry, but that disingenuous.

 

[mpok1519]

Well sorry to burst your bubble but I never claimed such a thing, you did. Also how can you lump a religion together when by definition a religion is a singular unit not a multiplicity.

Your failure is at least humorous

Lol sorry, but that's what this entire thread seeks to do.

Sorry if you can't see it.

 

[GoodSpeed1]

Lol

Sorry, but that ingenuous.

It was a stupid question given what I've already stated. You needn't have asked it.