Egypt, Muslims slaughter 10 year old girl

[Crypto]

No True Scotsman fallacy.

Tell that to Jesus. He was the one who taught that true Christians are those who love their neighbors.

 

[Crypto]

I thought this thread was about the plight of the Copts.

Islam is the plight of the Copts.

 

[BlandOatmeal]

Islam is the plight of the Copts.

Greeks Ready For Egypt Evacuation
By Margarita Papantoniou on August 16, 2013

"...The officers at the Hellenic National Center of Air Operations (EKAE) have begun examining the evacuation plan of Greek citizens from areas in danger. The Muslim Brotherhood is turning their rage and hatred against other believers. A propaganda ‘battle’, according to which even fake photos and videos have been posted on the Internet has been revealed, which shows that this war will continue..."

-- Greeks Ready For Egypt Evacuation | Greece.GreekReporter.com Latest News from Greece

 

[mpok1519]

What you call irrational propaganda is a 100% Muslim video. Here you have a documentary that is only indirectly related to Islam. The guy in the documentary has been imprisoned for attempting to blow up a bomb in London:

My Brother the Islamist ( Full Version ) - YouTube

You're not going to convince me that people who are Muslim are "cancerous" to the world, as you put it.

 

[kellhus]

This thread just makes me want to go to a bookstore and buy a copy of the Qur'an or something. Just to offset the ridiculous xenophobia.

 

[mpok1519]

Tell that to Jesus. He was the one who taught that true Christians are those who love their neighbors.

So how does trying to proliferate a single culture as "cancerous" to the world loving thy neighbor?

 

[mpok1519]

This thread just makes me want to go to a bookstore and buy a copy of the Qur'an or something. Just to offset the ridiculous xenophobia.

Yes. It's unfortunate what happened to this girl, but spreading hatred is what created this sad situation in the first place.

 

[TheDag]

Are you joking? Christians are severely targeted in most (if not all) Muslim countries.

Evidence for this? If we read some comments from Christian Coptic pastor in Egypt he says The cross and the crescent have gotten on peacefully most of the time. So he who is in the situation personally seems to think you are wrong.

I disagree. If a person is indoctrinated from childhood to hate Jews and to despise Christians, that person will most likely dislike Jews and hate Christians. Ideas and religions can be evil. Christians (do I need to explain this to a Christian?) act against the teachings of the Bible when they hurt others, whereas Muslims act in accordance to the teachings of Islam when they slain infidels.

Actually when muslims kill they are going against their teachings most of the time. That the west generally have used the same brush for all muslims rather than recognising the minority extremists for what they are which is the exception. If we did the same thing in Christianity it would be to say that Westboro Baptist is an accurate description for all Christians. We obviously recognise that is not true but for muslims we like to just assume the majority who are peaceful are the same as the extremists. Here in Australia after the Sept 11 attacks did the media go to the hundreds of mosques who condemned the attacks or did they go to the one mosque in the country that is extremist? That's right they went to one no-representative extremist mosque.
Also worthy of note is the US government who justified their attack on Afghanistan said it was to get Osama Bin Laden. Yet when offered Bin Laden by the Taliban they declined because they wanted him transported to the US. So what did they do? They waged a ten year war and when Bin Laden was captured they happily gave him to locals to put through court. Yep makes sense to me! Despite the war being justified anyone with half a brain should be able to work out that the continued war would cause resentment. Just another reason why the refusal of the US to accept the capture of Bin Laden was stupid move. Remember Bin Ladens objective was to get the US out of Saudi Arabia. The Taliban knew this and knew he had no real interest in Afghanistan itself. But go ahead and keep believing the mainstream biased media if it makes you feel better.

If I said something against these Islam to these Muslims, who are living in a Christian country, they'll beat me.

Yet I know people in the US & UK plus myself here in Australia who have all spoken against Islam and none of us have been bashed. I would suggest that if you have actually been bashed it is your approach that causes it rather than just speaking out.

I bet you didn't notice in the article in the OP that the same people who attacked the copts also were killing muslims. Explain to me how killing both muslims and Christians is an attack against Christianity. Good luck on that!

 

[TheDag]

Oh, and by the way, the Bible says homosexuals are to be put to death. Do you think it would be unchristian to fulfill that command? The bible clearly states to do alot of things that are just plain wrong.

If someone did murder a homosexual, because the bible commanded him to do so, would I blame Christianity? No. I'd blame the guy for being a bad person.

Evidence please. By evidence I mean I want scriptural reference and I also want evidence that when the word death is used it means a physical death. To take a life could simply mean taking away the inheritance rights of a child. As only the oldest child was allowed to inherit property this removed their source of income and hence was taking their life. To be shut out of the community was also considered death yet it was not a physical death. So one needs to be very careful before claiming a physical death is meant.

 

[mpok1519]

Evidence please. By evidence I mean I want scriptural reference and I also want evidence that when the word death is used it means a physical death. To take a life could simply mean taking away the inheritance rights of a child. As only the oldest child was allowed to inherit property this removed their source of income and hence was taking their life. To be shut out of the community was also considered death yet it was not a physical death. So one needs to be very careful before claiming a physical death is meant.

Well, if it meant "shut out of the community", common sense would suggest that it would say just that rather than "put to death".

Either way, neither is loving.

 

[kellhus]

Yay for free kindle editions of the Koran!

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

So how does trying to proliferate a single culture as "cancerous" to the world loving thy neighbor?

It wasn't a "single culture" that was spoken of, it was Islam. Calling it out for the evil it is hardly unloving.

 

[GoodSpeed1]

quran = terrorism for dummies 101

 

[mpok1519]

It wasn't a "single culture" that was spoken of, it was Islam. Calling it out for the evil it is hardly unloving.

A) Islam is a culture.

B) do you even know any Muslims? I do. They're not evil. I doubt you know any Muslims. How very "loving" of you to judge people you know nothing about.

 

[mpok1519]

quran = terrorism for dummies 101

Scott Roeder is a domestic terrorist. Guess which book motivated his acts?

 

[kellhus]

Strange how Islamophobes never manage to articulate any reasonable or rational argument for their position beyond screaming "Islam is terrorism" or "Muslims want to kill us all!"

 

[mpok1519]

Strange how Islamophobes never manage to articulate any reasonable or rational argument for their position beyond screaming "Islam is terrorism" or "Muslims want to kill us all!"

It makes sense though. Their positions are complete nonsense and bigoted garbage; no reasonability or rationality is normal predictable.

 

[GoodSpeed1]

Scott Roeder is a domestic terrorist. Guess which book motivated his acts?

the quran.
No??
Oh my !!!!!!!!! you pointed out 1 exception to the 99.9999768% of global terrorists today.
You are so open minded that you found an exception --congratulations.

I have a challenge for you and any else who is open-minded and "accepting" like you.:
Print 2 cartoons: 1 making fun of Jesus -- make a cartoon of him like a dog eating dog food, and post it all over North America --- and make sure that everyone KNOWS your REAL NAME -- that is the one real trick here -- you can't be shy ok?
Then do that same little thing (no big deal right??) but draw up a cartoon of mohammed as a dog instead of Jesus and make sure once again that anyone seeing the cartoon knows YOUR REAL NAME, and via the local paper you'll be easy enough to find?

not that stupid huh?

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

Islam is a culture.

... and to think that it's usually Islam's critics that get accused of making the Islamic world out to be some kind of monolith.

do you even know any Muslims? I do. They're not evil. I doubt you know any Muslims. How very "loving" of you to judge people you know nothing about.

I said "Islam". I didn't say individual Muslims.

 

[mpok1519]

Actually, it is stupid.

One exception? Plenty of people have used Christianity to proliferate atrocity. Plenty have used Islam too.

That doesn't mean any one of these two religions are evil.

the quran.
No??
Oh my !!!!!!!!! you pointed out 1 exception to the 99.9999768% of global terrorists today.
You are so open minded that you found an exception --congratulations.

I have a challenge for you and any else who is open-minded and "accepting" like you.:
Print 2 cartoons: 1 making fun of Jesus -- make a cartoon of him like a dog eating dog food, and post it all over North America --- and make sure that everyone KNOWS your REAL NAME -- that is the one real trick here -- you can't be shy ok?
Then do that same little thing (no big deal right??) but draw up a cartoon of mohammed as a dog instead of Jesus and make sure once again that anyone seeing the cartoon knows YOUR REAL NAME, and via the local paper you'll be easy enough to find?

not that stupid huh?