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They are if they're terminally credulous evangelicals, which I suspect many of your sources are.



Which question and which information?

There isn't any information!!!!

If there were contemporary accounts that give us insight into the various ideas of non-believing people's reactions to Jesus and their account of events, they would be incredible historical documents of great importance.

They would be convincing proof of Jesus's existence and well known in apologetics circles.

It's like I'm arguing for the non-existence of red giant in the solar system. WE WOULD KNOW IF WE KNEW.

Jesus of Nazareth......

Who is He?

What sources did you use to come to your understanding of who Jesus of Nazareth is?
 
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There are a lot of historians and biblical scholars who do not accept the NT as accurate historical text. The scholars who claim the NT is historically accurate, are of the conservative christian variety, who happen to work for religious based universities. Too many errors, too many changes to the text over time, no known authors of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, no eye witness accounts and no original texts of the NT exist.

The majority of credible biblical scholars will claim; bits and pieces of the NT may be historically significant, but as a whole, it doesn't meet the standard of being reliable. 200 christian scholars at the Jesus seminar looked at the historical reliability of what was attributed to jesus in the NT and their findings were 18% of what the NT claimed about Jesus, was reliable, based on historical method.

I would read up on "historical method" and how it is applied to determine "what likely happened in the past".

Would you like to debate me regarding the Jesus Seminar and whether or not its findings were actually in accordance with what historians know to be true regarding the New Testament?
 
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Everything.

This is who we are talking about you know....

Jesus of Nazareth.

So can you answer the two questions?

I can; the question is whether I will go through the trouble to list every book I have read about the issue.

I only, generally, ever respond to constructive and reasonable inquiries when it requires my effort.
 
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I can; the question is whether I will go through the trouble to list every book I have read about the issue.

I only, generally, ever respond to constructive and reasonable inquiries when it requires my effort.

This is the very reason why I desire to debate.

You will not even answer two simple questions. In a debate, there is no utility in evasion.

And I will not ask them again. If you do not want to answer them, then just say so.
 
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This is the very reason why I desire to debate.

You will not even answer two simple questions. In a debate, there is no utility in evasion.

And I will not ask them again. If you do not want to answer them, then just say so.

There is little utility in me wasting my time either.

It's not that I simply don't want to answer them; what I want is a better understanding on why I need to go through the trouble.

The interaction we've had so far doesn't really convince me that there is much in it for me.

Since my attention, time and interaction is free to you, you seem to feel that you can go down whatever rabbit hole you desire.

I'm simply asking you to shine a flashlight down there first.
 
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There is little utility in me wasting my time either.

It's not that I simply don't want to answer them; what I want is a better understanding on why I need to go through the trouble.

The interaction we've had so far doesn't really convince me that there is much in it for me.

Since my attention, time and interaction is free to you, you seem to feel that you can go down whatever rabbit hole you desire.

I'm simply asking you to shine a flashlight down there first.

Who is Jesus of Nazareth?
 
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Who is Jesus of Nazareth?

The central figure of Christianity.

Claimed Messiah of messianic Judaism relating to various parts of the old testament.

Claimed to be the son of God in a trinitarian relationship with God the Father and the Holy spirit.

Central figure of the Gospels, as per Christian Bible.
 
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The central figure of Christianity.

Claimed Messiah of messianic Judaism relating to various parts of the old testament.

Claimed to be the son of God in a trinitarian relationship with God the Father and the Holy spirit.

Central figure of the Gospels, as per Christian Bible.

Is it your view that Jesus of Nazareth was a real person?

I am trying to be as simple as I can be here....
 
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The stories about him are reasonably doubtful.

Have you researched this matter at all? Have you examined what modern scholars and historians who are not Christians have concluded regarding their research on the matter?

Do you even want to know?

The reason I ask is because I find it odd that you, a 32 year old man who has access to the internet does not know if Jesus of Nazareth actually existed.

This is quite fascinating....
 
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Elioenai26 said:
The reason I ask is because I find it odd that you, a 32 year old man who has access to the internet does not know if Jesus of Nazareth actually existed.

This is quite fascinating....

Please don't mistake the lack of arrogance I am demonstrating by not claiming to know things I do not know for ignorance.
 
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And? What did your research tell you?

That very little can be taken at face value.


Was the Buddah a real person?

Well, why are you ignorant regarding the historicity of Jesus if you have researched the matter?

I don't know if Jesus of Nazereth is a real person, not that I lack research on the matter.
 
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