Who was the greatest Christian ever?

Who was the greatest Christian ever?

  • Peter

  • Paul

  • John

  • Other

  • I don't know


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Achilles6129

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This is obviously a highly subjective topic that could have several possible answers. However, in my view, there are really only three people who could possibly be considered the greatest Christian ever, and those three people are Peter, Paul, and John. When you look at their accomplishments and the things that are written about them they stand out far above the rest.

You could make a very strong case that either one of them was the greatest Christian ever. Of course, it depends on how you define great (as in more powerful, leadership ability, evangelism, theological ability, etc.) but, in my own opinion, if we add up everything in Scripture Paul will come out slightly ahead of Peter and John. I will tell you the reasons why I think Paul was the greatest Christian ever, but first let's take a look at their respective resumes:

Apostle Peter

  • leader of the original 12 apostles
  • name is a foundation of the New Jerusalem (Rev. 21:14)
  • probably dictated the gospel of Mark
  • wrote 1 + 2 Peter
  • performed miracles/signs/wonders (Ac. 2:43, etc.)
  • healed the lame beggar (Ac. 3)
  • Ananias/Sapphira fell down dead at his feet (Ac. 5)
  • his shadow could heal the sick (Ac. 5:15)
  • healed the paralytic (Ac. 9:33-34)
  • saw angels + they rescued him from prison (Ac. 12:7-11, Ac. 5:18-20)
  • saw visions of God (Ac. 11)
  • resurrected the dead (Ac. 10:37-41, Mt. 10:8)
When we look at Peter's resume we can see why some may consider him to be the top Christian of all time. But let's look a little further:

Apostle John

  • one of the original 12 apostles
  • highly favored by Christ + was "the disciple whom Jesus loved"
  • wrote 1+2+3 John, the gospel of John, and Revelation
  • name is a foundation of the New Jerusalem (Rev. 21:4)
  • performed miracles/signs/wonders (Ac. 2:43, etc.)
  • healed the lame beggar (Ac. 3)
  • rescued from prison by an angel (Ac. 5:18-20)
  • caught up into heaven to see visions (Rev. 4:1-2)
  • resurrected the dead (Mt. 10:8)
Clearly John has an incredible resume. One of the major things that separates John from Peter is the fact that he was caught up into the heavens (quite an impressive achievement) while Peter was not. And finally:

Apostle Paul

  • Christ appeared to him in a vision on the road to Damascus (Ac. 9)
  • did many signs/wonders/miracles (Rom. 15:19)
  • struck a false prophet with blindness (Ac. 13:8-11)
  • healed a lame man (Ac. 14:8-10)
  • could heal diseases (Ac. 19:11-12)
  • resurrected a dead person to life (Ac. 20:9-10)
  • saw a vision of an angel (Ac. 27:23)
  • unaffected by a poisonous snakebite (Ac. 28:3-6)
  • was caught up into the 3rd heaven (2 Cor. 12)
  • wrote more books of the NT (and of the Bible) than anyone else (13 in all)
  • is the focus of Acts 13-28 (the majority of the book of Acts)
  • may have been responsible for much of the gospel of Luke
So here we have Paul who, like John, was caught up into the 3rd heaven. This is obviously something that both of them have that Peter does not. However, one of the serious drawbacks with considering Paul the greatest Christian ever is the fact that he never physically followed Christ while he was on earth. That is something that both Peter and John have over Paul.

Anyways, you could make a very strong case for either of these three being the top Christian ever, but I chose the Apostle Paul because I believe that he was the strongest overall. He was very good theologically and probably actually the best ever when it came to theology. He was just as powerful as either Peter or John as far as signs/wonders/miracles were concerned. He was probably the greatest evangelist ever and also one of the top leaders in the early church (if not the top leader). Peter was never caught up into the 3rd heaven, as both Paul and John were, which is a serious drawback. John was not quite the leader or evangelist that Paul was. So overall, my list would go as follows:

1. Paul
2. John
3. Peter

I would place John ahead of Peter since John was caught up into heaven and Peter was not. John also wrote more of the NT than Peter did. Anyways, that is my list. Feel free to rearrange it :)

EDITED TO ADD: First, Christ is not on the list since we are only considering candidates who are fully human and were born of both a father and mother. Second, please do not be hyperliteral with the word "greatest" and turn this into a discussion on who was the most humble of all. By "greatest" I mean the most powerful theologically, the best evangelist, the most powerful miracle-wise in the Holy Spirit, the greatest leader, etc. You could also consider it a requirement to physically follow Christ if you wished. Thanks :D
 
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"At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven." - Matthew 18:1-4
 
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"At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven." - Matthew 18:1-4

I knew someone would respond like this. I am considering theology/miracles/evangelism/leadership, etc. For those wishing to play along, the poll is open :D
 
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The greatest Christian ever is whoever was the most humble. But with that kind of humility we'll never know about them, and thus we will never know the answer.

:doh:

Just play along. If you don't like the word "greatest" then just consider theology/miracles/evangelism/leadership/power - etc. You get what I'm saying. Please don't tear this thread apart by being hyperliteral with the word "greatest." I should have put this in my opening post.
 
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You could make a very strong case that either one of them was the greatest Christian ever. Of course, it depends on how you define great (as in more powerful, leadership ability, evangelism, theological ability, etc.) but, in my own opinion, if we add up everything in Scripture Paul will come out slightly ahead of Peter and John. I will tell you the reasons why I think Paul was the greatest Christian ever, but first let's take a look at their respective resumes:

Paul said the following about himself:

"For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me." - I Corinthians 15:9-10

Paul attributed his "greatness" to "the grace of God" and we'd all be wise to do the same.

"For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise." - II Corinthians 10:12
 
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Johnny Cash is someone I find particularly inspirational right now.

A few months back I would have said St Martin of Tours.

Both really understood something at the core of what it was to be a follower of Christ, and recognised and relied the grace of God with regard to their own failings.
 
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I picked John because he was the disciple whom Jesus loved.

Good choice. You could make a very strong case for John.

Paul said the following about himself:

"For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me." - I Corinthians 15:9-10

Paul attributed his "greatness" to "the grace of God" and we'd all be wise to do the same.

"For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise." - II Corinthians 10:12

In that case, Paul was the most humble of them all :) So I guess he would be considered greatest ^_^

So ... really the question is "second greatest Christian"?

LOL. Check the OP again. I have added a clarification down at the bottom. We are only considering individuals who were fully human and born of a human father/mother. ;)
 
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In that case, Paul was the most humble of them all :) So I guess he would be considered greatest ^_^

That's possible.

Jesus said:

"Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he." - Matthew 11:11

To be the greatest is to be the least and a servant of all.

He who has ears to hear, let him hear.
 
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In my opinion ...

The second greatest Christian would be Paul.
The second greatest Messianic would be John.

If you consider Christ as the first Christian then I would agree with your statement about Paul.

Why would you think that John would be the second greatest Messianic?
 
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If you consider Christ as the first Christian then I would agree with your statement about Paul. Why would you think that John would be the second greatest Messianic?
In my opinion and interpretation, John was the only apostle (with written letters that we still have) that remained faithful (cf Jn 21:22) to Messiah's pro-Torah message, and his three epistles and the Revelation reflects that.
 
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He was quite good, yes. I could definitely see why many would consider him the greatest ever. One thing that John has above Paul is that he physically followed Christ on earth and Paul did not. Hence, he was one of the original specially chosen twelve disciples, which is truly quite impressive.

In my opinion and interpretation, John was the only apostle that remained faithful (cf Jn 21:22) to Messiah's pro-Torah message, and his three epistles and the Revelation reflects that.

Interesting point of view.
 
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Christ is not on the list since we are only considering candidates who are fully human and were born of both a father and mother. Second, please do not be hyperliteral with the word "greatest" and turn this into a discussion on who was the most humble of all. By "greatest" I mean the most powerful theologically, the best evangelist, the most powerful miracle-wise in the Holy Spirit, the greatest leader, etc. You could also consider it a requirement to physically follow Christ if you wished. Thanks :D

If seeing those as greatest who are the least (and playing along with the game in the OP, one would think Tabitha in Acts 9 is a great place to start...one who was simply making blankets and materials for the poor and who was so needed in the community that her absence was felt by all when she died - with them demanding she be brought back.

There's also others like Stephen - who died for Christ in Acts 6, starting out as one serving the needs of those who needed food.
 
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