I've started to become attached to the KJV, is there any proof though that its the..

[yogosans14]

Most accurate Bible out there?I love reading the Old english and I like the word Hell better then Hades lol. I noticed in my area in NC a lot of Baptist Churches are KJV only.

Are Baptists the only KJV onlyists?And why do you believe with evidence that the KJV is God's preserved word in English?

 

[ByTheSpirit]

No the KJV is NOT the most accurate English translation. The most literal would be the NASB, ESV, or NKJV. Where in NC do you live? I live on fort bragg. No Baptists are not the only KJV ONLY denomination. Actually I dont know of any main denominations that are completely KJV ONLY. Usually it is individual churches within a denomination.

 

[yogosans14]

Lincolnton, NC

 

[miamited]

Most accurate Bible out there?I love reading the Old english and I like the word Hell better then Hades lol. I noticed in my area in NC a lot of Baptist Churches are KJV only.

Are Baptists the only KJV onlyists?And why do you believe with evidence that the KJV is God's preserved word in English?

Hi,

The KJ is a wonderful translation of the Scriptures. For myself, I have always found it a bit disjointed and I'm not particularly enamored of ye olde english. However, there is certianly nothing wrong with it for the purpose for which it was translated - to give men the knowledge of God's salvation.

As far as denominations that hold more to the KJ than others, I've found, as has already been mentioned, that that can cross denominational lines but does seem much more prevalent throughout the 'biblie belt' than other areas. Most of the Holiness congregations, I believe, are pretty attached to it. As far as baptists, it would depend on which sub-branch of baptists you might visit. I have worshiped in baptist fellowships since being born again and that encompasses about four of which I have been a member and many others that I have visited, and not a one of them taught from the KJ.

However, I have always believed, taught and encouraged that the best translation is the one that opens one's heart to the truth and glory of God.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

 

[standingtall]

Hi,

The KJ is a wonderful translation of the Scriptures. For myself, I have always found it a bit disjointed and I'm not particularly enamored of ye olde english. However, there is certianly nothing wrong with it for the purpose for which it was translated - to give men the knowledge of God's salvation.

As far as denominations that hold more to the KJ than others, I've found, as has already been mentioned, that that can cross denominational lines but does seem much more prevalent throughout the 'biblie belt' than other areas. Most of the Holiness congregations, I believe, are pretty attached to it. As far as baptists, it would depend on which sub-branch of baptists you might visit. I have worshiped in baptist fellowships since being born again and that encompasses about four of which I have been a member and many others that I have visited, and not a one of them taught from the KJ.

However, I have always believed, taught and encouraged that the best translation is the one that opens one's heart to the truth and glory of God.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

 

[yogosans14]

Off topic:Is the NKJV a good translation?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

"Off topic:Is the NKJV a good translation?"

It's a good as any, they all say the same things of course.

The BEST TRANSLATION of the Bible is the one you'll actually READ. Case closed.

 

[OzSpen]

"Off topic:Is the NKJV a good translation?"

It's a good as any, they all say the same things of course.

The BEST TRANSLATION of the Bible is the one you'll actually READ. Case closed.

Bob,

I hope you are not serious about your last comment. The Jehovah's Witnesses READ the Bible a lot, but their New World Translation is a very unreliable Bible that is mixed with error - gross error.

There are many good English Bible translations including the NASB, NIV, ESV, NLT, NRSV, NKJV (and I've probably missed a few). However, I would not recommend a paraphrase. Many of these are done by one person, e.g. GNB, J B Phillips, The Message.

Oz

 

[DeaconDean]

Lincolnton, NC

Just south of you.

Gastonia NC.

God Bless

TIll all are one.

 

[DeaconDean]

One member here said:

The BEST TRANSLATION of the Bible is the one you'll actually READ. Case closed.

Erwin Lutzer, pastor of Moody Church once said the same thing.

When asked the same questin, he replied:

"The best translation is the one you pick up and read on a daily basis."

What Bible did the Pilgrams bring over on the Mayflower?

What Bible has historically been used by Baptists since before America was a country?

The KJV has proven itself reliable for over 400 years.

Sure the language is antiquated, sure its out of date, sure it uses words like "ye" and "thy" but is that so hard to understand that it needs serious updating?

I wonder what people would say if William Shakespere's works were updated into todays English?

From Romeo and Juliet:

"O Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?"

Shakesphere, Romeo and Juliet, Act 2, Scene 2

Would be changed to:

"Romeo, Yo! Where you be!"

I was raised on the KJV from the time I started church in 1968. That is the version I read. That is the version I study from. And it is the version I preach from.

The thing you must remember, there is not one single "perfect" version out there. Granted they can be relied on, but the original autographs, those written by the Apostles under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, are long gone.

The KJV is not for everybody, as you will find out both in the Lincoln Baptist Association, and in Lincolnton churches, and here on the forums.

What version do you read and study?

The ESV?

RSV?

NIV?

GNT?

NKJV?

That is the version for you, and I know there are KJV churches in Lincoln county.

Don't listen to what I say. Don't listen to what others say.

Listen to what the Spirit says, let Him guide your decision. He'll never led you wrong.

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[yogosans14]

One member here said:



Erwin Lutzer, pastor of Moody Church once said the same thing.

When asked the same questin, he replied:

"The best translation is the one you pick up and read on a daily basis."

What Bible did the Pilgrams bring over on the Mayflower?

What Bible has historically been used by Baptists since before America was a country?

The KJV has proven itself reliable for over 400 years.

Sure the language is antiquated, sure its out of date, sure it uses words like "ye" and "thy" but is that so hard to understand that it needs serious updating?

I wonder what people would say if William Shakespere's works were updated into todays English?

From Romeo and Juliet:

"O Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?"

Shakesphere, Romeo and Juliet, Act 2, Scene 2

Would be changed to:

"Romeo, Yo! Where you be!"

I was raised on the KJV from the time I started church in 1968. That is the version I read. That is the version I study from. And it is the version I preach from.

The thing you must remember, there is not one single "perfect" version out there. Granted they can be relied on, but the original autographs, those written by the Apostles under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, are long gone.

The KJV is not for everybody, as you will find out both in the Lincoln Baptist Association, and in Lincolnton churches, and here on the forums.

What version do you read and study?

The ESV?

RSV?

NIV?

GNT?

NKJV?

That is the version for you, and I know there are KJV churches in Lincoln county.

Don't listen to what I say. Don't listen to what others say.

Listen to what the Spirit says, let Him guide your decision. He'll never led you wrong.

God Bless

Till all are one.

NIV, NLT, and KJV

 

[miamited]

Hi DD,

You posted:

What Bible did the Pilgrams bring over on the Mayflower?

What Bible has historically been used by Baptists since before America was a country?

The KJV has proven itself reliable for over 400 years.

I'm just curious, but do you have any evidence that the KJV was the only translation carried by everyone that had a copy of the Scriptures on the Mayflower?

However, whether that proves true or not, it must be considered that that was the most widely available translation in its day and should, therefore, have been found in the possession of many people. Just as today the NIV has become a widely used translation and is now found in the possession of many of God's people.

The job of godly men who took on the work of translating the Scriptures has always been, from even long before the KJ translation, to provide a readable and understandable and trustworthy translation of the holy words of our Creator that He delilvered to us by His Spirit. A translation that is understandable to the general people of the culture for which it was produced. That was the purpose of the KJ translators in their day. They pored over the Latin and Greek manuscripts that were available and knowing that most people couldn't understand a single sentence of those languages, they took it upon themselves to work to translate those other language documents into the language of the culture for which it was produced.

Friend that is the same purpose and goal of the those who have worked to deliver to us many of the more modern translations. It's all good, brother. God will prevail and His word shall not depart from us so long as this realm exists.

BTW 400 years in the realm of God's revelation is merely a drop in the modern bucket of time. 400 years from now people may well be writing that very same sentence in reference to the NIV. So, if that proves that a translation is reliable, then we have only to wait another 375 years. Praise God!

God bless you.
IN Christ, Ted

 

[yogosans14]

I just looked at all the missing verses in the NIV bible!I am shocked, they even removed part of Psalms 12:6-7 where God said he would preserve his word!

I think I'll stick with the KJV and NKJV now!

 

[OzSpen]

I just looked at all the missing verses in the NIV bible!I am shocked, they even removed part of Psalms 12:6-7 where God said he would preserve his word!

I think I'll stick with the KJV and NKJV now!

Why are you not saying that the KJV and NKJV added these words?

You seem to be making the NIV an ogre of Bible translations.

Oz

 

[yogosans14]

Why are you not saying that the KJV and NKJV added these words?

You seem to be making the NIV an ogre of Bible translations.

Oz

The KJV did not add these words, even the NWT has these words:

6 The sayings of Jehovah are pure sayings,+
As silver refined in a smelting furnace* of earth, clarified seven times.
7 You yourself, O Jehovah, will guard them;+
You will preserve each one from this generation to time indefinite.(NWT)

6 And the words of the Lord are flawless,
like silver purified in a crucible,
like gold[a] refined seven times.
7 You, Lord, will keep the needy safe
and will protect us forever from the wicked,(NIV)

 

[HantsUK]

The Pilgrim Fathers took the Geneva Bible. This was the preferred translation for non-Conformists at that time. The AV had only been been available for a few years, and had been authorised by King James who wanted a version to replace the Geneva Bible, which he didn't like. It was used by the dissenters.

Americans seem to forget that the Pilgrims Fathers were escaping from King James, who was hounding and persecuting anyone who worshipped outside the Anglican Church. For example: Baptists. He ordered the execution of Edward Wightman, the last religious martyr in England. As this wasn't so popular with his subjects, he found it more acceptable to just imprison people, and leave them to die out of sight. One of the first Baptist leaders, Thomas Helwys, died in prison.

I am mystified why some American Baptists have such a high regard for the 'King James Version'! (And to call a Baptist Church 'King James Baptist Church' is a contradiction in terms - or a double contradiction if in America!!).

 

[Keachian]

The KJV did not add these words, even the NWT has these words:

6 The sayings of Jehovah are pure sayings,+
As silver refined in a smelting furnace* of earth, clarified seven times.
7 You yourself, O Jehovah, will guard them;+
You will preserve each one from this generation to time indefinite.(NWT)

6 And the words of the Lord are flawless,
like silver purified in a crucible,
like gold[a] refined seven times.
7 You, Lord, will keep the needy safe
and will protect us forever from the wicked,(NIV)

That's not an addition or a subtraction, it is conveying the meaning rather than following word for word

 

[yogosans14]

NIV Exposed!

Well just look at this website, the guy who made it is a bigot but hes still right on some of these things he mentioned.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

NIV Exposed!

Well just look at this website, the guy who made it is a bigot but hes still right on some of these things he mentioned.

You are not considering the differences in the texts used in the translations or any of that. You are just jumping to a conclusion from an emotional standpoint. Before you denounce the NIV ESV NASB HCSB NLT or any others as being evil you might want to learn about those "missing" passages... Also learn about the passages the KJV adds just to be fair.

 

[yogosans14]

You are not considering the differences in the texts used in the translations or any of that. You are just jumping to a conclusion from an emotional standpoint. Before you denounce the NIV ESV NASB HCSB NLT or any others as being evil you might want to learn about those "missing" passages... Also learn about the passages the KJV adds just to be fair.

I'm talking specifically about the NIV, I like most of those you mentioned

And yes I know the KJV added 1 John 5:7 to support the Trinity