War with North Korea

[MariaRegina]

I do think in some ways that Kim Jong may not mean what he has been advocating - as he may be trying to get a response to his actions and possibly is being set up by others behind the scene..and possibly, perhaps supported by China in trying to use him as a buffer/distraction to get the world into an arms race and to influence the U.S stretching itself/having to gain more territory (more shared in #167 / #169 & #170/ ).

If NK got out of hand - it could be both in the favor of the CHinese and yet also to their detriment since it's like playing with Joker from The Dark Knight......and as much as many say their reach/capability is limited with targeting the U.S, I do wonder if perhaps the real danger would be in Hawaii specfiically.

• North Korea targets Hawaii, Guam in latest threat (+video ...

For the Pacific rim is generally concidered to be part of Asia and Hawaii is on the outer edge of the Pacific rim...and as the President is very connected with the Asian world due to his descent, hasdue to his descent/passion for seeing growth in that area - with the Asian Pivot being based on that (more shared here and here in #6 #27 ), it seems like an attempt to destabilize that goal - and test the resolve of the President/U.S.A.

Again, it's not a surprise to see things occur as they have since President Obama began to make shifts toward the Asian world in his First Term and went full-steam ahead during his Asian-Pivot/tour...a tour which made known his intentions to gain allies in the Asian-Pacific world and essentially form a blockade of China even as it rises in influences. For in doing so, should China want to harm to U.S, it'd also have to be seen as harming the allies it may have in business who are in good business with the U.S. .....the issue of "The Enemy of My Enemy is My Friend and not my Enemy." Even with it being the case that many suspected an arms race due to how tension between the two nations escalated with the US criticizing China's currency policies and Washington bolstering its military presence in the Asia Pacific, China seems to be playing low...for now.

If NK was taken out, that'd be an ally of CHina gone - unless, of course, it was a calculated risk China may be willing to take by letting Kim act the Fool. So we'll see. For an excellent review on the issue:

• Obama's Korean Peninsula “Game” Strategy seeks to achieve a wide range of objectives in his “Asian Pivot” - In2EastAfrica...

As said elsewhere, truthfully, I think the entire issue could be resolved in ways that would not require war - and as said before in #93, I thought there was a lot of wisdom in what others noted when it came to others noting that the President may be wise in seeking to reach out to the young ruler and dialogue with him - regardless of his past. For often it has been the case that leaders do great acts of bravado in order to get attention/fit a role when in reality they may feel set up/being played by forces outside of the public eye.


I think the use of Sports - much in the same way that China and the U.S had their Ping Pong tournament to solve a lot of issues ( #1/#615 ) - may make a big difference when it comes to pride.

Examining Rodman's Trip To North Korea ​

Ultimately, I wonder how many have considered if Kim has never really had anyone seriously talk to him - as a man to a man, one brother concerned for another - and has instead had others put him into the role of a monster and therefore he goes with it. I think the thing that so many seem to be forgetting is that what Kim needs is the Gospel - and that even he is not beyond it. Had this shared from a sister in CHrist who lives in CHina and shared her thoughts on the situation...as shared here:

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The Power of the GOSPEL!!!

Praise the Lord.

Thanks for posting this, G.

 

[Trying_to_be_Orthodox]

@War with North Korea

I've got nothing except a lot of lulz: how can Usa get in war with koreanian freaks - they have no technology, army,which can resist to Usa. its kinda freaking jokes of current leader of Korea inspirated by somebody from usa's military lobby.

 

[Gnarwhal]

That moron, Kim John Un, has to have the mental faculties to know that if he attacks us, even with some damage to us and victories, we will wipe his butt off the face of the planet and reduce him to a pile of powder...surely the guy knows that....and it's pretty unthinkable for this guy not to flinch when playing chicken....he's driving an AMC Gremlin and the U.S. is driving an 18-wheeler Mack Truck a la the Road Warrior...that game of chicken has a hopeless outcome for Kimmy boy. Surely he knows he'll be facing the giant kimshee factory in the sky, right?

"The hardest part of playing chicken is knowing when to flinch." -Capt. Mancuso

I don't discount the threat nor do I suggest the U.S. should scoff it off an laugh without preparations or high alerts and adjustments, but in the very end I don't think he'll go through with it.

I'm with ya, the predicament isn't something to write off but we do need to realize its the DPRK, they're not a superpower by any stretch of the imagination (barring any miraculous revelations of weaponry or technology in the future).

And what is up with Kim's haircut? Looks like a Korean wanna-be MC Hammer circa 1988?

Talk about a dystopic stereotype, huh?

@War with North Korea

I've got nothing except a lot of lulz: how can Usa get in war with koreanian freaks - they have no technology, army,which can resist to Usa. its kinda freaking jokes of current leader of Korea inspirated by somebody from usa's military lobby.

I kind of have to chuckle at the thought that at the last minute, Kim Jong-un would charge in to battle and his entire military would stay put in a final act of betrayal, lol.

I agree with the general sentiment that they'll chicken out.

 

[Gxg (G²)]

That moron, Kim John Un, has to have the mental faculties to know that if he attacks us, even with some damage to us and victories, we will wipe his butt off the face of the planet and reduce him to a pile of powder...surely the guy knows that....and it's pretty unthinkable for this guy not to flinch when playing chicken....he's driving an AMC Gremlin and the U.S. is driving an 18-wheeler Mack Truck a la the Road Warrior...that game of chicken has a hopeless outcome for Kimmy boy. Surely he knows he'll be facing the giant kimshee factory in the sky, right?

I don't discount the threat nor do I suggest the U.S. should scoff it off an laugh without preparations or high alerts and adjustments, but in the very end I don't think he'll go through with it.

And what is up with Kim's haircut? Looks like a Korean wanna-be MC Hammer circa 1988?

I think part of having a larger goal of putting the U.S into a bad decision - if something negative were to occur - would be getting the U.S to give into doing a "Scorched Earth" policy where everything of value to the enemy is wiped out - and the people of the land (who may not of even supported the leadership in North Korea) suffer/take the fall for it. If Kim were to do something and the response of the U.S would be to react in the extreme with all out nuclear assault (as many have said they'd like), that'd make us look extreme even more than ever in the eyes of the world - and we'd be harming others without cause. If the president can walk in wisdom/restrait per what others have called the Obama Doctrine ( #157/#166 ) and do a precision strike on Kim/his leadership while finding ways to avoid a reaction with nuclear war (as if we're still in the Cold War Era with M.A.D - Mutually Assured Destruction ), then that would be beneficial since it'd show the U.S can practice restraint in combat.....and with all of the stream-lining in the military of late due to budget and trying to find out how to wage war more practically rather than acting as if we're still in WWII, it seems that the Korea situation is a test in how strong we've become with our actions.

I do hope war can be averted and that people in the U.S against Kim will stop having a "blow them up!!! mindset since there are people in NK (including believers in Christ) who are just as concerned on the issue as others are outside the nation.

With Kim, I do think the man has gotten a bit disconnected with reality - for when you are not in your right mind/operating under pressure or delusion, you tend not to consider the full ramifications of your actions.....and the hair-cut is the least of his worries. The man needs prayer and someone in his area who could reach him.

 

[Gxg (G²)]

Praise the Lord.

Thanks for posting this, G.

Blessings and so glad that the Lord can do amazing things

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

That is SO FUNNY! I'm a HUGE Hunt for Red October fan! I read the book in high school. My buddy recommended it at the time. After that I fell in love with Clancy! Anyway, as I read your quote, I thought, "sounds like Mancuso!" before I finished the sentence! LOL...I love that movie despite Connery's ABOMINABLY BAD "Russian" language LOL!

What a classic movie. I watch it every year at least once. My son LOVES IT!....

I almost miss the days of the U.S. vs. the USSR, man. At least we had a clear enemy with uniforms, a nation, rules of engagement, and a definite sense of style and class. These terrorists and warlords and militias and Al-Qaida, that stuff's for the birds! And this bloated Korean guy with the weird razor-cut MC Hammer thing going on who likes hanging out with Dennis Rodman, man....what can I say!? LOL

Anyone who enjoys the company of Dennis Rodman and actually takes him seriously as well as admires him, that shows a possible mental instability and "offness" for sure!

Maybe now we need to start a Red October quotes thread! LOL

"Plan? Son, the Russians don't take a dump without a plan!"
"Hey, Ryan, be careful what you shoot at. Most things in here don't react too well to bullets."

"When he reached the New World, Cortez burned his ships. As a result his men were well motivated."

"Sir! The reason for having two keys is so that no one man may... may fire the missiles! Captain!!!" LOL

"The hardest part of playing chicken is knowing when to flinch." -Capt. Mancuso

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

I can find some time to throw in a prayer for an improved haircut! That's just got to go! I can't take looking at it! Dude needs to do some Atkins, hit the gym, and even out that hairdo....then maybe we can have some world peace!

and the hair-cut is the least of his worries. The man needs prayer and someone in his area who could reach him.

 

[Gnarwhal]

That is SO FUNNY! I'm a HUGE Hunt for Red October fan! I read the book in high school. My buddy recommended it at the time. After that I fell in love with Clancy! Anyway, as I read your quote, I thought, "sounds like Mancuso!" before I finished the sentence! LOL...I love that movie despite Connery's ABOMINABLY BAD "Russian" language LOL!

Yes, but "he's not Russian, he's Lithuanian by birth, raised by his paternal grandfather."

What a classic movie. I watch it every year at least once. My son LOVES IT!....

I almost miss the days of the U.S. vs. the USSR, man. At least we had a clear enemy with uniforms, a nation, rules of engagement, and a definite sense of style and class. These terrorists and warlords and militias and Al-Qaida, that stuff's for the birds! And this bloated Korean guy with the weird razor-cut MC Hammer thing going on who likes hanging out with Dennis Rodman, man....what can I say!? LOL

Anyone who enjoys the company of Dennis Rodman and actually takes him seriously as well as admires him, that shows a possible mental instability and "offness" for sure!

Maybe now we need to start a Red October quotes thread! LOL

"Plan? Son, the Russians don't take a dump without a plan!"
"Hey, Ryan, be careful what you shoot at. Most things in here don't react too well to bullets."

"When he reached the New World, Cortez burned his ships. As a result his men were well motivated."

"Sir! The reason for having two keys is so that no one man may... may fire the missiles! Captain!!!" LOL

Ditto bro, I love Clancy novels... I remember watching The Hunt For Red October when it first came out on video with my dad and I was only four years old or so. The suspense is really incredible in that film, even now, with the way filmmaking has advanced I still marvel at the realism that film accomplished, and that was 23 years ago.

I'm also quite fond of Patriot Games, that was actually the first Clancy book that I read.

Have you seen that there's a "reboot" of sorts in post-production right now? It's simply called "Jack Ryan", starring James T. Kir—I mean Chris Pine—as Jack Ryan, Keira Knightley as Cathy Ryan and Kevin Costner as a new character named William Harper. Kenneth Branagh is also starring a role as well as directing... I'm a huge fan of his.

"I miss the peace of fishing like when I was a boy. Forty years I've been at sea. A war at sea. A war with no battles, no monuments... only casualties. I widowed her the day I married her. My wife died while I was at sea, you know. " –Capt. Marko Ramius

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On another note, I'd be fascinated to see how the DPRK would react if Kim Jong-un was deposed and some form of republic was installed and suddenly the entire North Korean culture was exposed to the modern world, the advances in technology, science, medicine; the latest trends and fashions, etc. I wonder if they'd reject much or most of it, or if they would embrace it all?

I bet that would be an interesting sociological study to observe, an entire nation emerging from seclusion after more than a century.

 

[ArmyMatt]

I think something will happen. Kim Jung Un is a spoiled rich kid, who has all the power, and is just chomping at the bit to show his strength. South Korea has their first female president, who also probably wants to show she is strong. Japan prolly wants to take out North Korea, and since we have troops there, we might get sucked in. all out war? maybe not. but something.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Looking at KJU has inspired me to try to lose weight ASAP!

I think something will happen. Kim Jung Un is a spoiled rich kid, who has all the power, and is just chomping at the bit to show his strength. South Korea has their first female president, who also probably wants to show she is strong. Japan prolly wants to take out North Korea, and since we have troops there, we might get sucked in. all out war? maybe not. but something.

 

[nestoj]

I hope it's all posturing. Lord have mercy that it is.

 

[Gxg (G²)]

I almost miss the days of the U.S. vs. the USSR, man. At least we had a clear enemy with uniforms, a nation, rules of engagement, and a definite sense of style and class. These terrorists and warlords and militias and Al-Qaida, that stuff's for the birds! And this bloated Korean guy with the weird razor-cut MC Hammer thing going on who likes hanging out with Dennis Rodman, man....what can I say!? LOL

Anyone who enjoys the company of Dennis Rodman and actually takes him seriously as well as admires him, that shows a possible mental instability and "offness" for sure!

LOL

Truthfully, it seems the media has been a BIG player in shaping the perceptions of others when it comes to Korea - as if people are being trained ahead of time on how to see things since entertainment is one of the biggest ways to keep others distracted and programmed to certain actions.

Seriously, we already had 2 films recently made on the issue - one of them being a remake of Red Dawn where the enemy was North Korea taking over the U.S (even though the original enemy was Russia)....AND the other new one being Olympus Has Fallen - which is basically "Die Hard" in the White House where Korea takes over again...for that North Korea is the new bogeyman of American foreign policy. In the movie ‘G.I. Joe Retaliation‘, the President threatens North Korea. Honestly, are we beginning to see the programming of an event that has not happened? And being trained to demonize everyone in North Korea and be ready to support wiping them out even before anything has happened?


As another noted, the danger is that the United States is not avoiding a war, but is seeking a pretext or provocation for war, when we may have been responsible for the a “response” from North Korea and a misinterpretation of that response in what can be called a “fail-safe” type communication breakdown.

With films like Olympus Has Fallen, the cultural mark of Olympus may not be its gross assassination attempts or its stereotypical North Korean potrayal so much as all the American viewers who walked out of theaters tweeting that they want to "kill Asians." The gist of Olympus is that a group of traitorous guerrilla forces, led by a covert North Korean psychopath (played by the American-born Rick Yune, pictured at left) - who originally was covert in operation as a South Korean diplomat working with the U.S ) - and is bent on a plan of unifying the two Koreas by way of taking over the White House and attacking the President of the United States. Truthfully, it seems like getting folks ready to be trained to HATE North Korea in any representations - and then getting all the folks ready to support whatever goes down.

• uprisingradio.org » ReThink Reviews: Olympus Has Fallen
• North Korean Fail-Safe: A Harsh Lesson In Communication ...
• "Olympus Has Fallen" and racial nativism - Racebending.com
• Ground Zero Media - Ground Zero Live with Clyde Lewis 'Olympus Has Fallen And It Won't Wake Up' - April 1, 2013

 

[Ready4Chapter2]

There may not be any intention of engaging in war, but even a itchy trigger finger can start problems.

 

[Gxg (G²)]

There may not be any intention of engaging in war, but even a itchy trigger finger can start problems.

Mistranslation of what is said makes a world of difference:

• DPRK’s “State of War” Declaration Is a Faulty Translation: Not an Official Policy Statement from Kim Jung Un - Global Research

Others may not agree...but IMHO, it does seem the war is being engineered - on a large scale - by Global Elites:

• Global Elite to use North Korea Crisis to Trigger Catastrophe? - War & Conflict

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[gurneyhalleck1]

Nah....fact is, we don't have any 'good' bad guys anymore! The USSR collapsed (as far as I'm concerned, that SUCKED for movies! They were the best baddies!), Cuba is a joke, Iran isn't doing anything too interesting, and Osama bit the dust. Fall back?----North Korea. Simple math, dude! LOL

Truthfully, it seems the media has been a BIG player in shaping the perceptions of others when it comes to Korea - as if people are being trained ahead of time on how to see things since entertainment is one of the biggest ways to keep others distracted and programmed to certain actions.

Seriously, we already had 2 films recently made on the issue - one of them being a remake of Red Dawn where the enemy was North Korea taking over the U.S (even though the original enemy was Russia)....AND the other new one being Olympus Has Fallen - which is basically "Die Hard" in the White House where Korea takes over again...for that North Korea is the new bogeyman of American foreign policy. In the movie ‘G.I. Joe Retaliation‘, the President threatens North Korea. Honestly, are we beginning to see the programming of an event that has not happened? And being trained to demonize everyone in North Korea and be ready to support wiping them out even before anything has happened?


As another noted, the danger is that the United States is not avoiding a war, but is seeking a pretext or provocation for war, when we may have been responsible for the a “response” from North Korea and a misinterpretation of that response in what can be called a “fail-safe” type communication breakdown.


With films like Olympus Has Fallen, the cultural mark of Olympus may not be its gross assassination attempts or its stereotypical North Korean potrayal so much as all the American viewers who walked out of theaters tweeting that they want to "kill Asians." The gist of Olympus is that a group of traitorous guerrilla forces, led by a covert North Korean psychopath (played by the American-born Rick Yune, pictured at left) - who originally was covert in operation as a South Korean diplomat working with the U.S ) - and is bent on a plan of unifying the two Koreas by way of taking over the White House and attacking the President of the United States. Truthfully, it seems like getting folks ready to be trained to HATE North Korea in any representations - and then getting all the folks ready to support whatever goes down.

• uprisingradio.org » ReThink Reviews: Olympus Has Fallen
• North Korean Fail-Safe: A Harsh Lesson In Communication ...
• "Olympus Has Fallen" and racial nativism - Racebending.com
• Ground Zero Media - Ground Zero Live with Clyde Lewis 'Olympus Has Fallen And It Won't Wake Up' - April 1, 2013

 

[Gxg (G²)]

Nah....fact is, we don't have any 'good' bad guys anymore! The USSR collapsed (as far as I'm concerned, that SUCKED for movies! They were the best baddies!), Cuba is a joke, Iran isn't doing anything too interesting, and Osama bit the dust. Fall back?----North Korea. Simple math, dude! LOL

Pretty much what was noted earlier - that we have to manufacture enemies....and then make it big in real life. I do think there's something to be said on how Hollywood can be used by government in covert ways to train others (some suggesting that it's like the U.S has training drills it goes through with its intelligence agencies/military - and then makes them into real life events and has the media follow that).

Gotta respect what M said in SkyFall when she was being questioned for her failure to stop some agents from dying - and pointing out that some things aren't so simple:

SkyFall M Poem Scene​

That said, I do love Cuba in many ways and they're pretty hard-core in many ways -especially as it concerns Health Care dynamics ( more shared in #43/ #46 )...so they'd not really qualify as a villain per se since they actually were the only nation in the Western Hemisphere to compete with the U.S/not allow it to take over their course...rebel If we wanted a villain, make up a fictional nation Or better yet, make a film where the U.S is seen from the perspective of how other cultures see it - and have us play the role we used to ascribe to the Russians and others in the era of the Cold War. But no one ever wants to see the U.S as the villain since "the villain is always the hero in his own story."​

Life, LOL...​

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

I don't think WE are manufacturing enemies. North Korea has done these sabre-rattling missile tests for years now, threatened nuclear events, has promised to dismantle nuke programs in exchange for goodies only to receive said goodies and then go back to the nuke programs with gusto. They continue to threaten the U.S. at every turn and now are making very real threats to South Korea. Their propoganda and chest-beating are tremendous. They're the ones boasting of war, not us. If anything, for a while now Obama has down-played it, until recently. We haven't had to make them big in real life or manufacture anything. It is what it is, as they say. And since they're the only REAL (not perceived) threat, we use 'em in movies. In fact, movies don't tend to manufacture enemies. If anything, the film industry tries to warm and soften enemies and make us look like the baddies. Just watch a movie like The Kingdom with Jamie Foxx and see that..

Pretty much what was noted earlier - that we have to manufacture enemies....and then make it big in real life. I do think there's something to be said on how Hollywood can be used by government in covert ways to train others (some suggesting that it's like the U.S has training drills it goes through with its intelligence agencies/military - and then makes them into real life events and has the media follow that).

Gotta respect what M said in SkyFall when she was being questioned for her failure to stop some agents from dying - and pointing out that some things aren't so simple:

SkyFall M Poem Scene​

That said, I do love Cuba in many ways and they're pretty hard-core in many ways -especially as it concerns Health Care dynamics ( more shared in #43/ #46 )...so they'd not really qualify as a villain per se since they actually were the only nation in the Western Hemisphere to compete with the U.S/not allow it to take over their course...rebel If we wanted a villain, make up a fictional nation Or better yet, make a film where the U.S is seen from the perspective of how other cultures see it - and have us play the role we used to ascribe to the Russians and others in the era of the Cold War. But no one ever wants to see the U.S as the villain since "the villain is always the hero in his own story."​

Life, LOL...​

 

[johnalv]

Looks like someone is convincing him to push along, like peer pressure. Perhaps he might make that mistake and someone else will take over. Maybe they don't really want him in power, and are misleading him to do this so someone else can step up into the spot.

 

[stone]

Is this going to happen? What do you guys think?

The little punk dictator needs a spanking. We should just take out all their nuke facilities. This Whitehouse is a bunch of wimps.

Heh, i must of taken a wrong turn somewhere back there. Hello ya'll.

 

[Gnarwhal]

The little punk dictator needs a spanking. We should just take out all their nuke facilities. This Whitehouse is a bunch of wimps.

Heh, i must of taken a wrong turn somewhere back there. Hello ya'll.

LOL, sup bro.