What if a gay family comes to the Church?

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I converted to Christianity when I was 14. I'm not going on 19. Coming to terms with my sexual orientation and what I thought the Church's teachings were regarding it was difficult, and caused me to defect from Holy Orthodoxy for a long while.

It took me a long time to realize that Christ wasn't this feel good hippie people make him out to be. He was about peace and love, but through His perfect will. The Church calls everyone to reject sin, not just certain people. To truly be a Christian is to be a sinner who repents and repents. No one has any hope of being perfect without Christ (which is what I took so long to realize.)

Amen :hug:

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If gay family will come to church with serious wish to become Orthodox so they will meet situation with 2 ways - continue to move to GOD, or stop it and live as gays as before.

I don't understand exactly what you mean, kakie izmenenija budut sdelany dlja Boga?

(Otvechat’ na russkom jazyke, esli on delaet vas schastlivoj. Pozhalujsta, ne obizhajtes’, ja hochu ponjat’ vashi slova.)
 
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If gay family will come to church with serious wish to become Orthodox so they will meet situation with 2 ways - continue to move to GOD, or stop it and live as gays as before.
They will "live as gays" either way.
 
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I don't understand exactly what you mean, kakie izmenenija budut sdelany dlja Boga?

I mean homosexuality is incompatible with Orthodoxy: or becoming Orthodox, or being gay - together is impossible.

Luche po angliisky. No tvoi Russkii neploh.
 
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In any discussion, you must distinguish between "being gay" as in "experiencing sexual desire for the same sex" and as in "acting on those desires". That's one reason why "being gay" is such terrible language. It is at the heart of such confusion.

TBO means that acting on those desires is incompatible with Orthodoxy. Becoming Orthodox means taking up a difficult and possibly lifelong struggle AGAINST those desires.

Does anybody not get that?
 
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In any discussion, you must distinguish between "being gay" as in "experiencing sexual desire for the same sex" and as in "acting on those desires". That's one reason why "being gay" is such terrible language. It is at the heart of such confusion.

TBO means that acting on those desires is incompatible with Orthodoxy. Becoming Orthodox means taking up a difficult and possibly lifelong struggle AGAINST those desires.

Does anybody not get that?

Is "being gay" a language? Im rejected by all that aren't pure at heart. Am I considered "out of the loop"?
 
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Is "being gay" a language? Im rejected by all that aren't pure at heart. Am I considered "out of the loop"?

I mean the terminology is bad. The truth of the state of such people is that they suffer from a particular passion, an unnatural attraction to the same sex, in spite of the clear biological and anthropological purposes of sex - let alone the mysteries we do NOT know about as to why God created two sexes.
Thus, the most accurate language of our time is not to say "I am/He is gay" but to say "I/He suffer(s) from same-sex attraction." once that is said, the true nature of the problem is brought out "of the closet".

So no one is "rejecting" you here, we are telling you that this is a passion that one must renounce and struggle against, just as the alcoholic or inappropriate content addict or man who can't control his anger must struggle with their passions. The one thing you can't do is say "My passion is NOT a passion; it is a good and beautiful thing". Then you would have to be corrected. We all have things standing between us and God. None of us are better than you. If that's clear, then you are welcome! :)
 
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If the Church means me, I would be nice to them and mind my business.

:amen: 'Tis not for us to judge.

As an Episcopalian, I pray that fellow Christians would and will not use others as punching bags for jokes...it smacks of superiority over another.

We accept all, love all, and support all who are on the path of seeking a deeper, more meaningful relationship with Jesus Christ. That's a relationship that no one should try to rip asunder. We are all pathetic, empty vessels of sin, washed clean in the blood of our Savior. Our "job" is to fill our vessels with the teachings, grace, mercy, and love of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

A family most certainly IS a family...whether it be by blood or by bond...and Hallelujah if that family becomes united in the loving grace of God! I applaud the scenario that this young man has brought up. Words to make us think, to discuss, to ponder! :clap: Isn't that what forums are for?:confused:

This is my very first post on any Christian forum. I typed Episcopal into the search engine, only to find it
as the butt of a joke, though I don't believe it was meant in a malicious manner in that initial post. I sincerely believe God has a great sense of humor! I will do my best to be of a pure heart and harbor no malice when I post, I pray I will be treated as you would want to be treated. No Troll Zone for this Episcopalian...but yeah, feel free to send anyone our way. ^_^

Just my 2 bits.

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Unabridged, Unassuming, Unafraid.:pink:
 
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