Do suicides go to heaven?

[justavisitor]

The true doctrine is able to save people from suicide sometimes perhaps that requires unity

Hell is only filled with suicides they kill themselves by loving the darkness and evil and therefore death
Hell is filled with those unable to accept their rightful place in heaven
They and God both know they don't belong in heaven because as much as they cover it up before people they know they are unforgiving towards God or others

However in justice God wants to provide atonement for the whole world

 

[simply christian]

Based off of what I have heard from others, people who commit suicide damn themselves. But it is possible that they were not believers when they died, so I don't know for certain; no one does. I would err on the side of caution if you are considering it or know someone who is. Judas was damned because he killed himself, not because his sin was worse than Peter's. One was saved, the other not - what do you think was the deciding factor?

 

[Barricade24]

I personally don't think believers who kill themselves would go to Hell. Didn't Jesus die for all sins? Unbelievers however really just get there faster than the would living a normal life on Earth. I haven't read anything the Bible so far that would indicate a believer who kills himself will got to Hell. On the other hand God is the one who decides when we die not ourselves. Clearly any believer who is considering doing this should get help right away.

 

[CounselorForChrist]

Better question is does someone who is suicidal want to risk the chance they could go to hell. Because if they are wrong you will be wishing you were alive.

Which does bring up the point of why would God let someone into heaven who killed themselves? It was just give christians reason to kill themselves ASAP to see God sooner.

 

[iambren]

We believe that after we are truly saved we face temptation.

We also believe if we give in it doesn't remove our salvation.

What if a man gives in, is in the very act of adultery with his cute little secretary, and Christ returns? Heavenbound?


Of course, his ticket to heaven was not based on HIS works anyway but the works on the cross. Same with the suicidal.

I must say I am surprised by the lack of mercy (or ignorance) toward those who kill themselves. The basic will to survive is VERY strong in people. It shows you the deep suffering they endure before committing suicide and you don't know how long/deep the pain they have endured. I've worked with the depressed, the bipolar, the dissociative that would trade physical pain for the pain in their minds ANYDAY.

And So What they don't have an opportunity to consciously repent. Does that mean if you somehow sin, plan to repent at prayer-time later on, then get in a car wreck and die you'll go to hell??!!

The only suicides that go to hell are those who have not been given the grace to be saved to become one of His children.

 

[HIS Geeky Girl]

Iambren, I remember arguing the whole "can you lose your salvation every time you sin if you don't have time to repent" thing in high school (which was a Christian school). I was absolutely distraught at the number of students - all professing Christians - who believed that if you died with ANY sin not being repented of, you'd go to hell. I'll never forget that debate, I think I was the only one who disagreed with the rest of them, and I felt like I was in the Twilight Zone.

 

[iambren]

Well yes. Those would be in the "ignorant" category because they are ignorant of what their salvation is, what a relationship is, and what being born again to a new creature is--all purchased BY HIM at calvary.

Please realize I use the term not to offend, only in the sense of not knowing who we are in Christ. An observer can't know the cloud of confusion, sense of loss, detachment from what is real/not real that some people go through before taking their life. My faith is that God sees all and may even allow some to come home to Him out of mercy.

 

[Maranatha27]

I take my view point from J. Vernon Mcgee. He believes that if the person was born again and had a genuine conversion to the Lord Jesus Christ, the person who commited the sin of suicide would enter the Kingdom. There are times as Christian's we don't feel like christians, sin has quenched the Spirit in us. People can be in this state weeks, months and God forbid years. In that condition I believe a christian could commit this awful sin.

 

[CounselorForChrist]

I must say I am surprised by the lack of mercy (or ignorance) toward those who kill themselves. The basic will to survive is VERY strong in people. It shows you the deep suffering they endure before committing suicide and you don't know how long/deep the pain they have endured. I've worked with the depressed, the bipolar, the dissociative that would trade physical pain for the pain in their minds ANYDAY.

That is so true. I have gotten so far down a pit of depression (and anger/hate) that I thought many times of suicide. I attempted it once and as I made a small cut I couldn't bare the pain. No matter how terrible things were going in the end I wouldn't do it. And as my life changed and I let God help me I realize suicide was not the answer. I had to survive. God had a plan for me. I was a vessel and didn't want to waste the opportunity.

I thought I was weak though for getting so low. But other christians who knew how bad and depressed I had become would tell me "You are stronger beyond what you realize, if I were in your spot would have likley given up on God and killed myself instead of letting myself suffer for so long as you did!". Hearing that from so many as I changed my life really blew my mind. I was stronger then I thought. This encouraged me to bear with things and have faith that things will get better. And that if they ever got bad again, God would be there!

And So What they don't have an opportunity to consciously repent. Does that mean if you somehow sin, plan to repent at prayer-time later on, then get in a car wreck and die you'll go to hell??!!

I know I've heard mixed views on this. I always have feared that if I died just as I was sinning I would go to hell because you are to be Christ like and so on. But I have struggled with the fact of that doesn't make sense deep down. What if you are a good christian and just happened to swear for example before you accidently die? Would God send me to hell for this?

Some told me the answer is indeed yes because we are to always be ready for his return. And if we lead a good christian life then we won't have to worry about possibly sinning just as he comes back. This is why as soon as we sin we are to repent just in case. Which again leads me to what if I sinned and was literally about to repent and then died? Would God forgive me because he knew I was about to repent or would he say "Sorry, you missed your chance!".

In the end I don't think I really believe you can lose it like that because it wold make no sense at all. Its why I think the only real way (possibly) you could lose it is by actually turning away from God 100%. Because obviously if you could turn away and still go to heaven, then everyone would become a christian knowing they could still live a bad lifestyle and yet still get into heaven.

 

[xxxxxxtra]

You need to talk to someone other than strangers... Please.. This is your second suicide thread..
If you just lost it and killed yourself. It would be a totally different circumstance than posting threads and then waiting for suitable answers..
Truth is you need help..

 

[someguy14]

Do suicides go to heaven?

ONLY GOD IS JUDGE! Relax friend, God is in control and God is love.


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[Brazilian]

Samson committed suicide and is remembered as a hero of faith in Hebrews 11. Was his fighting a war an excuse? Wasn't he moved by deep depression due to being under such conditions, after being tortured and full of regrets? Was it fatal, as fulfilling a fate, or would he have had a choice? Suicide for releasing a pain, saving a life, yours or anybody else's, can't be sinful. Suicide as a way to hurt people, as a revenge, then is a sin, from my limited perspective.

 

[Brazilian]

Everytime I think of suicide, I don't feel like I'm sinning. I focus on my purpose in life, that is raising my son, and I decide to stay around while he needs me. I decide to bear the pain once more, for a little more time, for him. There's something worse than my own pain: the pain I can cause to him. I'm deeply convinced that God understands me in this matter. In the end, what is living all about if not having a purpose?

 

[TheyCallMeDavid]

As Christians we don't get to heaven by our works, so would suicide which is a bad "work" affect Christ's blood shed for us? I'm confused.

Suicides without having Christs blood cover all our sins, disqualifys a person from heaven.

Suicides with Christs shed blood covering all our sins, doesn't disqualify a person from heaven...but it grieves God greatly because we are playing god by doing so.

Suicide is a permanent solution to an otherwise temporary problem ; there is ALWAYS a way / ways to not resorting to suicide. Most of all : The very power, presence, and love of God to help us thru big adversity in this life no matter what comes our way. God even rewards our sufferings in this life, particularly when they go to advance Gods Kingdom on earth.

Finally, ALLOW loves ones to help because they want to and will feel very cheated out of this should the sucide be successful...not to mention the anquish of how you did it as well as greatly missing you . It is a VERY tough thing for a loved one to have to endure...probably THE most horrific thing in their life, ever.

Did this help in some small way ? I hope so.

 

[sdowney717]

The mention of the verse regarding destroying God's temple that God will destroy him and the mention that suicide is murder connected my thought to what Apostle John wrote

First this

If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are.

Then this

11 For this is the message you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. 12 We must not be like Cain who was from the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own deeds were evil and his brother’s righteous. 13 Do not be astonished, brothers and sisters, that the world hates you. 14 We know that we have passed from death to life because we love one another. Whoever does not love abides in death. 15 All who hate a brother or sister are murderers, and you know that murderers do not have eternal life abiding in them.

So murderers do not inherit or have in them eternal life.

And at the End, Jesus speaks more about murderers

12 ‘See, I am coming soon; my reward is with me, to repay according to everyone’s work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.’

14 Blessed are those who wash their robes,[g] so that they will have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by the gates. 15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and fornicators and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practises falsehood.

16 ‘It is I, Jesus, who sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.’

So it is obvious, murderers who kill either themselves or others are going to hell. Meaning they were never saved, and were on the seems right path of destruction their whole life long. And they may have had you fooled as to who they really were inside which is private and known only to them and God.

 

[znr]

You really do not know what you are talking about. No clue at all. Almost every one of your posts is a shrine unto twisting scripture. I sincerely hope you're just pretending to be serious.

The mention of the verse regarding destroying God's temple that God will destroy him and the mention that suicide is murder connected my thought to what Apostle John wrote

First this


Then this



So murderers do not inherit or have in them eternal life.

And at the End, Jesus speaks more about murderers



So it is obvious, murderers who kill either themselves or others are going to hell. Meaning they were never saved, and were on the seems right path of destruction their whole life long. And they may have had you fooled as to who they really were inside which is private and known only to them and God.

 

[Hayabusa]

To knowledge, no, they don't. In the middle ages, the Catholic Church even refused to bury suicides, believing them to have no eternal life. Suicide is the ultimate slap in the face to your maker. It is the one sin you are unable to repent of. Remember Iscariot's son. He was condemned, not simply for betraying Jesus, but more importantly, because he saw fit to play god and take his own life. A suicide willfully chooses to cut himself off from the love and grace of God. No different than one choosing to reject God's offer and plan of salvation, made possible through the shed blood of his only son, Jesus Christ.

 

[stormdancer0]

The belief that suicide is a one-way ticket to hell began with the Catholic church, before the protestants came around. The reason you would be going to hell is because you would not have had a chance to go to the priest and get pardoned. They do not believe that God forgives directly, but our forgiveness must go through a priest or confessor. (Please, if I'm wrong, someone Catholic correct me). No sin can be forgiven unless it is confessed to another human being.

Since protestants do not believe that extra step is necessary, we can ask Christ to forgive us, and He is faithful and just to do just that.

 

[stormdancer0]

Destroying your body is a sin, yes. Because we belong to Christ, it is HIS decision when we are to leave this body.

HOWEVER, as believers, Christ has forgiven us ALL our sins. According to James chapter 4, to be guilty of one sin is to be guilty of all. So sin, in God's eyes, is sin.

 

[sdowney717]

Matt. 27:3-5

The Suicide of Judas

3 When Judas, his betrayer, saw that Jesus was condemned, he repented and brought back the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders. 4 He said, ‘I have sinned by betraying innocent blood.’ But they said, ‘What is that to us? See to it yourself.’ 5 Throwing down the pieces of silver in the temple, he departed; and he went and hanged himself.

Judas suicided.
Of Judas, Jesus said He would lose none of them which the father gave Him except JUDAS. In fact Jesus speaks of Judas death before Judas kill himself.

John 17

12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.

Suicides are lost souls and dont go to heaven.

I Sam. 31:1-7 King Saul fell on his own sword from fear or cowardice and lost pride. Saul used to set up statues to himself 1 Samuel 15:12, and loved his own glory. Finally at his end in defeat, rejected by God, Saul knew he was going to be killed by the enemy. Saul was rejected as King by God.

II Sam. 17:23 - Out of the sin of pride, Ahithophel strangled himself after his military counsel was rejected by David.

Exodus 20 :13 “You shall not murder." Suicide is murdering yourself. God says dont do it. Nowhere in the bible does God tell people to kill themselves.