Here it comes: They're claiming Christ was married

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The difference is that Scripture does tell us exactly what Jesus did before He began His ministry and, for the record, He did not have a job as a beach volleyball player:

"Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary and brother of James and Joses and Judas and Simon?" Mark 6:3

However Scripture does not say whether He was married; it is silent on that issue.



And I do not believe this particular scrap of paper; evidence seems to indicate that it is a fraud. In fact, I think I have said many times that I do not believe that He was married. My point is that Scripture does not comment on whether He was or was not married.

I rhink we are saying the same thing.

My point about being an Olympic volleyball player is the statement that "scripture is silent on that" is equally valid to what is being said here regarding His possibly being married.

So if a scrap of paper was found suggesting Jesus had a mean floater, the fact the Bible is silent on the whether He made the team or not does not support that the scrap of paper or the idea He played. You could claim the Bible does not preclude His having played volleyball because it is silent on that subject, but that only makes it a possible.

Am simply saying that the Bible being silent on something does not mean it is likely, and certainly not more likely, to be true.
 
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Like Father Jonathon

It is precisely our faith in Jesus and his teachings that motivate us to respond in love. Embassy workers, foreigners, and non-Christians know they are safe in our midst, no matter what the New York Times and other media consider fit to print. [/SIZE]

Truthful and good response about those who follow Christ. There are good Muslims who hate violence, only they aren't truly following their Koran. For Christians who don't follow Christ, they do violence and hatred to others. It is interesting that to truly follow your religion, Jesus followers will not do harm to anyone, only this group is very small. We are fortunate that there are few Muslims that really follow their Prophet.
 
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How do you know it's junk without reading it?

Got to be honest, personally I think this is one of those issues that it's best to keep an open mind about. No, there's nothing in Scripture that explicitly states that Jesus was married. OTOH, as others have said, Jesus was considered to be a rabbi, and it would have been (according to one argument) unremarkable for a rabbi to have been married, and remarkable for one to be married; so Scripture's silence on the matter could be taken as implying that he was married. Personally, whenever I read the account of the wedding feast at Cana, I find it difficult to reach any conclusion other than that Jesus was the one getting married. But that might be just me.

All things considered, Jesus' marital status makes no difference, positive or negative, to my faith.

Well said. I remember somewhere the same observation through a documentary about such a thought about Jesus.

John was not married and the Bible pointed this out. If Jesus wasn't married being a rabbi, it seems would be news. The response of the religious leaders appears to favor Jesus being more human (married) and not less, since Jesus' claims were way beyond flesh, and with the leaders wanting to kill him for such blasphemy, since he was just a normal guy, though able to do many miracles.
 
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We are fortunate that there are few Muslims that really follow their Prophet.

Actually, scholars have proven and it is not disputed that their "prophet" did not write the Qraan. He rather spoke words to a scribe and his words were jotted down.
However, since 9-23% of the Qraan is by different scribes, these same scholars point out that Mohammed most likely NEVER told them to write these words, especially since the portions of the Qraan which are almost exclusively violent, are almost ALL written by secondary scribes prior to it's compilation.

So the peaceful ones are probably following their "prophet". Perhaps they know of the deceit in the compilation of the Qrraan and aHaddith. Or perhaps God Himself sends His Holy Spirit among them to read past those fraudulent words of hate and inconsistency.
 
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"The Gospel Of Jesus' Wife," New Early Christian Text, Indicates Jesus May Have Been Married



Won't this be a treat. Now we all get to hear about how Christianity is false until this entire thing blows over.

"11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Th. 2:11-12

"24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before." Mt. 24:24-25

I don't doubt that Jesus may have been married at one time before His Divine years. One day the world will discover that they've been brainwashed to exalt the flesh over the Spirit of God. The plot is to cause all people to lose all spiritual sight and see only on a horizontal plain, focusing on the flesh, exalting the flesh.

What diff does it make if Jesus was married? Does it make Him an abomination to the Father? If so, then shame on every married man and woman today! :doh:

The world doesn't know how to properly proportion the flesh and spirit, this is the whole theme of the Apocryphal John, Enoch, Thomas and a host of many, possibly every single one does at some point. Scholars note this, I'm repeating it.
 
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I don't doubt that Jesus may have been married at one time before His Divine years.

What diff does it make if Jesus was married? Does it make Him an abomination to the Father? If so, then shame on every married man and woman today! :doh:

The idea of God marrying an individual he created and having physical relations with that individual carries extremely shady philosophical connotations.

Christ was never married.
 
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The idea of God marrying an individual he created and having physical relations with that individual carries extremely shady philosophical connotations.

What sort of "shady philosophical connotations" do you mean?
 
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David Brider said:
What sort of "shady philosophical connotations" do you mean?

Well there's the fact that a wife was never mentioned, which begs the question, why did Jesus associate with so many women who were NOT his wife? Then there is the idea that there could be actual physical descendants of Jesus Christ, which could lead more than a few to some grandiose ideas about their geneology. Also, the question arises about the fact that Jesus was not altogether "earthly" in His own heritage. He was conceived of the Holy Spirit, not a man.

Then comes the biggest question of all: Why, if He WAS married, would His wife never ONCE have been mentioned in all of the NT? I mean really, how could a detail like that be COMPLETELY ignored?

The Word says this:

Revelation 22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Do not add, do not take away. We cannot "add" a wife if there was none mentioned. It would "take away" from the veracity of the Book of Scripture, and therefore the power of what Jesus did for us on the cross.
 
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The idea of God marrying an individual he created and having physical relations with that individual carries extremely shady philosophical connotations.

Christ was never married.
Why did you inject "physical relations" into the idea of a Marriage among Godly people such as Christ? Who is the Bridegroom and who is the Bride? Does God literally screw each of His children so that they become family? How morbid is your mind!?!?!?!?
 
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Well there's the fact that a wife was never mentioned, which begs the question, why did Jesus associate with so many women who were NOT his wife? Then there is the idea that there could be actual physical descendants of Jesus Christ, which could lead more than a few to some grandiose ideas about their geneology. Also, the question arises about the fact that Jesus was not altogether "earthly" in His own heritage. He was conceived of the Holy Spirit, not a man.

Then comes the biggest question of all: Why, if He WAS married, would His wife never ONCE have been mentioned in all of the NT? I mean really, how could a detail like that be COMPLETELY ignored?

The Word says this:

Revelation 22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Do not add, do not take away. We cannot "add" a wife if there was none mentioned. It would "take away" from the veracity of the Book of Scripture, and therefore the power of what Jesus did for us on the cross.

Please put all of your eggs in one basket and realize that everything that Jesus did and other events in His life were never written in any book, here's proof unless you ripped this page out of your Bible. Show us proof of your claim that He was NOT married, using scripture alone.

John 21:25

25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
KJV

I rest my case! :wave:
 
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mog144 said:
Please put all of your eggs in one basket and realize that everything that Jesus did and other events in His life were never written in any book, here's proof unless you ripped this page out of your Bible. Show us proof of your claim that He was NOT married, using scripture alone.

John 21:25

25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
KJV

I rest my case! :wave:

Show me proof, Scripturally speaking, that He was. Do not add, do not take away.
 
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What sort of "shady philosophical connotations" do you mean?

I'm talking about the fact that it's downright creepy. I mean, to create an individual and then have physical relations with them - it would be like marrying your daughter.

Why did you inject "physical relations" into the idea of a Marriage among Godly people such as Christ? Who is the Bridegroom and who is the Bride? Does God literally screw each of His children so that they become family? How morbid is your mind!?!?!?!?

Earthly marriage usually connotes physical relations. With the bridegroom and the bride we're obviously talking spiritually. You're saying Christ may have been physically married, thus he had physical relations with his wife. So what do you mean how morbid is my mind?

How morbid is your mind? How could God create an individual and then have physical relations with her?!?! The idea is philosophically sick! It's like marrying your daughter! :o
 
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I'm talking about the fact that it's downright creepy. I mean, to create an individual and then have physical relations with them - it would be like marrying your daughter.



Earthly marriage usually connotes physical relations. With the bridegroom and the bride we're obviously talking spiritually. You're saying Christ may have been physically married, thus he had physical relations with his wife. So what do you mean how morbid is my mind?

How morbid is your mind? How could God create an individual and then have physical relations with her?!?! The idea is philosophically sick! It's like marrying your daughter! :o

Who are you to be witness of people having sex just because they are married? You're comparing today's lifestyle with those days, and if Christ was married before His divine Ministry, can you be witness to him having sex with his wife? Were you a peeping Tom and saw these things?

You are mixing up a lot of things, even trash. You have a depraved mind. You have no spiritual discernment to distinguish between flesh and Spirit. You place greater emphasis on Jesus' flesh and overlook the Spirit inside of Him. When it comes to exalting the flesh to exalt yourself you exalt the Jesus, that man in flesh. And when it comes to trodden the Spirit within Jesus, you make it spiritual. Yea, your mind is garbage to say it politely. :)
 
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Nobody can prove that He wasn't, it's a wash. You might read John 21:25


Its not a wash, it would have been mentioned if he was married. That is a major deal. The Church is the bride of Christ. Why do we always make an easy thing so hard.
 
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Its not a wash, it would have been mentioned if he was married. That is a major deal. The Church is the bride of Christ. Why do we always make an easy thing so hard.

Why do we make things so hard? It's not me, it's society. Everybody knows what the Law says about Jesus's life and profess that hey know for certain every aspect of His life, even any possible relationship with women but when it comes to knowing the Law concerning the instituted laws of marriage today, we have an open door to do and say what we want. America, the double standard for life!
 
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