Question on EO and OO

[RomanRite]

Why arnt the Byzantine Catholic Churches in communion with the Oriental Orthodox Churches?

 

[ArmyMatt]

because they are in communion with Rome

 

[RomanRite]

because they are in communion with Rome

The Oriental Orthodox Churches are not in Communion with Rome. The Eastern Oriental Catholic Churches are, not orthodox though.

 

[RobNJ]

because they are in communion with Rome

The Oriental Orthodox Churches are not in Communion with Rome. The Eastern Oriental Catholic Churches are, not orthodox though.

That's what Matt meant.

 

[ArmyMatt]

The Oriental Orthodox Churches are not in Communion with Rome. The Eastern Oriental Catholic Churches are, not orthodox though.

right, to be in communion with Rome is to not be in communion with the OO

 

[RomanRite]

right, to be in communion with Rome is to not be in communion with the OO

Exactly

 

[Protoevangel]

Exactly

So, it looks like you have your answer.

 

[RomanRite]

So, it looks like you have your answer.

Not quite, I asked why arnt the Oriental Orthodox and Byzantine Orthodox in communion with one another

 

[Joseph Hazen]

Not quite, I asked why aren't the Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Orthodox in communion with one another

That's what he's asking.

And the answer is: "For the same reason the Oriental Orthodox and the Roman Catholics aren't in communion." When that schism happened we were still one church. The answer is the Council of Chalcedon (Fourth Ecumenical Council). The Orientals didn't agree with the Christological formulas defined by the Council.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Chalcedonians vs. non-Chalcedonians...monophosites, dyophosites....easy to google or wikipedia up

 

[ArmyMatt]

Not quite, I asked why arnt the Oriental Orthodox and Byzantine Orthodox in communion with one another

oh, us Eastern Orthodox vs the Oriental Orthodox. in a nutshell, because they do not officially accept Chalcedon.

 

[Joseph Hazen]

To the OP, the reason there was confusion I think is because we generally hear or refer to ourselves as Eastern Orthodox if we have an adjective at all, wheras we're also more used to often hearing of the Byzantine Catholics. I don't think many of us consider ourselves "Byzantine."

That might be an interesting poll lol.

 

[WisdomTree]

To the Eastern Orthodox: all of your divine liturgies are from the family of Byzantine Rites isn't it? Like the Catholic Church being predominantly Roman Rite, with the exception of the various, but significantly smaller Eastern Rites and non-Roman Latin Rites. Whereas the Oriental Orthdox is a composition of the liturgical families of Alexandrian, Antiochene, Armenian, and Chaldean. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Protoevangel]

To the Eastern Orthodox: all of your divine liturgies are from the family of Byzantine Rites isn't it? Like the Catholic Church being predominantly Roman Rite, with the exception of the various, but significantly smaller Eastern Rites and non-Roman Latin Rites. Whereas the Oriental Orthdox is a composition of the liturgical families of Alexandrian, Antiochene, Armenian, and Chaldean. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Mostly, yes. We do also have a small minority of Parishes and Monasteries that serve the Western (Roman) Rite Mass.

 

[Monica child of God 1]

Why arnt the Byzantine Catholic Churches in communion with the Oriental Orthodox Churches?

Just FYI: Byzantine Catholic usually refers to Catholics in communion with Rome that use eastern forms of liturgy and practice, also known as Eastern Catholics.

Eastern Catholic Churches - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

M.

 

[WisdomTree]

So this question is now resolved?

 

[Colleen1]

To the OP, the reason there was confusion I think is because we generally hear or refer to ourselves as Eastern Orthodox if we have an adjective at all, wheras we're also more used to often hearing of the Byzantine Catholics. I don't think many of us consider ourselves "Byzantine."

That might be an interesting poll lol.

Yes, it would be and informative.

 

[ArmyMatt]

So this question is now resolved?

what do you mean?

 

[WisdomTree]

what do you mean?

Well, I'm assuming that apart from the Council of Chalcedon, there's no other reason why the EO and the OO should be separate, right?

 

[ProScribe]

Its highly unlikely that the Coptic Christians will accept any new councils...