Former Navy SEAL Launches PAC To Fight Obama

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That's the point, he didn't save anyone. He only claimed to have done so.
His own boat-mates back up Kerry. The guy disputing it was in no position to have been keeping a close eye on anyone else - he was under fire himself and involved in a rescue in another boat at the time - I read the military write up for their awards.
Either his memory was playing tricks or he was clearly lying.
 
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You might want to consult the us military that awarded him a silver star then.

That would be "respectful" of the Military, right? But clearly the U.S. military doesn't deserve any respect when they give someone Sistern doesn't feel "deserves" the Silver Star.

Some people just seem to "loath" the U.S. military and those who serve I guess.
 
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I wish I knew why some people loath the military and all they do for us. Putting themselves in harms way on our behalf.

To all the veterans out there: So terribly sorry you had to see this.

So terribly, terribly sorry.
It's veterans like Kerry who cheapened the Purple Heart. :wave:
 
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Yes, that would be correct. See the "Birther" controversy which has little grounding in "fact" yet keeps coming up repeatedly. Or see the hue and cry over Obamacare despite the fact that it has now made it all the way through the Supreme Court. Or see the "teleprompter" meme that has circled the drain for 4 straight years now. Or see the manifold conspiracies we hear on this board alone all day everyday! And most of them are for things that Bush himself OK'd when he was in office, but if Obama signs on, suddenly it's baaaaaaad.

Yes, the loyal opposition started in with Obama the very second he raised that hand to swear his oath and it has never, ever stopped for some.

(I am not saying you can't find reasons to dislike Obama, and I'm sure yours are well constructed, but in general there are those out there for whom Obama couldn't do or say anything "good" ever.)
just to be clear, you've not jumped on the wealther bandwagon and lamented the lack of tax returns either?
 
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It's veterans like Kerry who cheapened the Purple Heart. :wave:

Actually, it's you -- you're the one claiming it's worthless.

I'd love to put Kerry's military record up against your own... you do have a military record, right?
 
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just to be clear, you've not jumped on the wealther bandwagon and lamented the lack of tax returns either?

Oh, are you saying that Mitt Romney isn't wealthy but that the Left is trying to dig up evidence of his wealth?

Interesting.

As for the Tax Returns I couldn't really care either way. I just figure that since all presidential candidates have to submit so many tax returns and all do it to a certain point back in time, maybe Mitt should do it.

But I don't much care. They're all wealthier than any of us, so I'm perfectly content to know that his 2010 income was $21.6 million. The median U.S. income is about $26,000 (yup that's right, the man who wants to represent you on the GOP side makes 1000 times more than the median U.S. citizen, and more than 50% of his income is from Capital Gains which is taxed at lower rates than the median American.

So just remember that the median U.S. citizen would have to work for 1000 years to make what Mitt made in one year (2010) and they'd pay more in taxes on that than Mitt pays on about half of his income.

BUT, lest you think I'm being unfair: Obama is also wealthy. Just not as much so. And to my understanding Obama doesn't stash his cash in tax havens (because it's so onerous to pay the high capital gains rates?)

Nah, they're all pitiful representatives of Americans. But Romney is going to tell you he knows how to run a business and can run the country.

Seems to me that in so doing he should show us how well he's run his own house. But I don't much care either way.
 
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First off, he said "conservatives". I only represent me, not all conservatives. Second, I said they were a dime a dozen in the Vietnam era, and they were. Hopefully that has been corrected, especially after the exposure of how Kerry used Purple Hearts to play the system to his benefit

Ah, so you only meant to insult Vietnam vets? You're only saying that their Purple Hearts were worthless.

I'm glad you were specific as to how many of our servicemen you want to drag through the mud in order to hurt Kerry -- who isn't even politically relevant anymore.
 
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I wish I knew why some people loath the military and all they do for us. Putting themselves in harms way on our behalf.

To all the veterans out there: So terribly sorry you had to see this.

So terribly, terribly sorry.
You could sk someone who openly admits loathing the military, Bill Clinton
 
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You could sk someone who openly admits loathing the military, Bill Clinton

Nah, I'll stick with people who say the following:

"...the supposedly prestigious Purple Heart..."

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(WAIT! This last guy is still standing up... I bet he didn't "deserve" it! Pshaw!)
 
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Actually, it's you -- you're the one claiming it's worthless.
Misrepresenting what I say once again I see. For the record, the awarding of the Purple Heart is limited to personnel whose injuries REQUIRE medical treatment. Getting medical treatment is one thing but requiring it is quite another.

I'd love to put Kerry's military record up against your own... you do have a military record, right?
Of course and I do and I have spent more time in a field hospital (think M.A.S.H.) in Vietnam than Kerry did for all three of his alleged wounds combined. :wave:
 
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Misrepresenting what I say once again I see.

Dime a dozen, Mach -- your words; take responsibility for them.

Of course and I do and I have spent more time in a field hospital (think M.A.S.H.) in Vietnam than Kerry did for all three of his alleged wounds combined. :wave:

Ah, you were a male nurse, then?

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it!
 
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Oh, are you saying that Mitt Romney isn't wealthy but that the Left is trying to dig up evidence of his wealth?
nope. nice try though. :wave:

As for the Tax Returns I couldn't really care either way. I just figure that since all presidential candidates have to submit so many tax returns and all do it to a certain point back in time, maybe Mitt should do it.
but he has, as you posting his annual income proves. saying he has not shared his tax returns is disingenuous.

But I don't much care. They're all wealthier than any of us, so I'm perfectly content to know that his 2010 income was $21.6 million. The median U.S. income is about $26,000 (yup that's right, the man who wants to represent you on the GOP side makes 1000 times more than the median U.S. citizen, and more than 50% of his income is from Capital Gains which is taxed at lower rates than the median American.
good to know he is a successful business man. I value that higher than community organizer. Then again, obama got a million men organized to march on Washington, Mitt never did that.
So just remember that the median U.S. citizen would have to work for 1000 years to make what Mitt made in one year (2010) and they'd pay more in taxes on that than Mitt pays on about half of his income.
at $26k per year, they'd probably never pay what Mitt payed in the one year you reference. Nor would they give nearly as much to charity. The median American you write of would however give more to charity than Biden most likely.
BUT, lest you think I'm being unfair: Obama is also wealthy. Just not as much so. And to my understanding Obama doesn't stash his cash in tax havens (because it's so onerous to pay the high capital gains rates?)
no, but he says he gives each daughter thousands that hide it from taxation.
Nah, they're all pitiful representatives of Americans. But Romney is going to tell you he knows how to run a business and can run the country.

Seems to me that in so doing he should show us how well he's run his own house. But I don't much care either way.
he has. He earned $26m in one year. He's a great model of success through personal effort.

Oh wait, he didn't build that business....
 
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Ah, so you only meant to insult Vietnam vets? You're only saying that their Purple Hearts were worthless.

I'm glad you were specific as to how many of our servicemen you want to drag through the mud in order to hurt Kerry -- who isn't even politically relevant anymore.
I meant exactly what I said, the Purple Heart became easily obtainable in Vietnam and was cheapened by men like Kerry
 
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