This is what Democracy looks like -- Theocracy?

[MachZer0]

What "support" is this, exactly?

And of course it must be due to Obama's super-secret Muslim roots! The man practically faces Mecca every time he gives a press conference.

He's not Christian enough!!! We need him to invoke the powerful name of JESUS every 5 words! Otherwise he's prone to lapse back into MUSLIMISM!

Oh the musselman, Obama! Forsooth! We know he's from Kenya and we know he's a super-secret stealth moslem!

I demand, no, I SCREECHINGLY DEMAND my representative and congressperson back a bill COMMANDING the president of the U.S. to repeatedly avow his undying devotion to Jesus Christ.

He must continually say "Jesus is my savior!" and he must continually blaspheme the name of the prophet in order for me to believe he's even marginally Chrisitian enough for MY COUNTRY!

The U. S. of A.

God bless America!

Sorry, but I have no idea what you're talking about

 

[MachZer0]

Exactly. It's the Shariah-commu-fascist-liberal-crony capitalist-Christian Liberation theology that he adheres to. All crypto-Muslims like Obama hold to that ideology.

I'm not sure what your point is here. Is there a denial amongst our liberal friends that Obama has Muslim roots?

 

[Illuminaughty]

Is there a denial amongst our liberal friends that Obama has Muslim roots?

Not just roots. Get with the program. He is a secret Muslim and a Communist, fascist , Liberation Christian, and everything else "bad" you can think of all at the same time even if the terms seem to mutually contradict one another. I've learned this from the politics forum here. The righties have schooled me.

 

[MachZer0]

Not just roots. Get with the program. He is a secret Muslim and a Communist, fascist , Liberation Christian, and everything else "bad" you can think of all at the same time even if the terms seem to mutually contradict one another. I've learned this from the politics forum here. The righties have schooled me.

I would disagree with most of that, excepting f course his Muslim roots. But if you have any evidence of the rest of it, please present it. I'm always open minded to see what you've got on him.

 

[thaumaturgy]

Sorry, but I have no idea what you're talking about

His MUSLIM ROOTS! Didn't you hear? This one guys posted:

Could it be our President's Muslim roots?

Of course now Super-Secret Muslim Super-Man, Obama, will probably visit that guy (since he knows Super Secrete Moslem Obama's Super-Secret).

Man, that poster was so sharp! He could see through Obama's SUper Secret Moslem Cloud of Deception!

 

[thaumaturgy]

I'm not sure what your point is here. Is there a denial amongst our liberal friends that Obama has Muslim roots?

Not just roots, but they INFORM HOW LEADS!

Since Obama took office it's been sharia, sharia sharia!

 

[Illuminaughty]

I would disagree with most of that, excepting f course his Muslim roots.

That's good. I have to give you props for that. A lot of conservative I talk to seem to keep adding on different labels for his ideologies that aren't even compatible with one another (see the thread about fascist Obama for example) I'm glad you realize that Obama isn't a communist or a supporter of Shariah law.

 

[MachZer0]

His MUSLIM ROOTS! Didn't you hear? This one guys posted:



Of course now Super-Secret Muslim Super-Man, Obama, will probably visit that guy (since he knows Super Secrete Moslem Obama's Super-Secret).

Man, that poster was so sharp! He could see through Obama's SUper Secret Moslem Cloud of Deception!

I'm still a bit confused. Are you denying that Obama has Muslim roots?

 

[thaumaturgy]

I'm still a bit confused. Are you denying that Obama has Muslim roots?

Well, it's one thing to say he has "muslim roots" and it's a different thing to assume that it somehow relates to some supposed support of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

But then there's some poster on here who indicated that:

Could it be our President's Muslim roots?

in response to this post:

Egypt's secular forces condemn US support for Muslim Brotherhood candidate

Why were we backing those guys, anyway?

So I guess this poster..."MachZer0" wants to now argue semantics rather than the actual point he appeared to be making.

Now he wants to focus no Obama's muslim roots to the seeming exclusion of his indication that it somehow relates to some supposed policy which I have yet to see anyone explicitly outline for me!

So please continue to suggest that you are confused by my response.

 

[MachZer0]

Well, it's one thing to say he has "muslim roots" and it's a different thing to assume that it somehow relates to some supposed support of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

But then there's some poster on here who indicated that:



in response to this post:



So I guess this poster..."MachZer0" wants to now argue semantics rather than the actual point he appeared to be making.

Now he wants to focus no Obama's muslim roots to the seeming exclusion of his indication that it somehow relates to some supposed policy which I have yet to see anyone explicitly outline for me!

So please continue to suggest that you are confused by my response.

I'm not sure why you see the two as mutually exclusive. By the way, my post didn't indicate anything since it was a question. One nobody seems willing to answer by the way

 

[thaumaturgy]

I'm not sure why you see the two as mutually exclusive.

I'd ask you why you even mentioned it, but I sense you are starting in on your usual "dance around your own point" thing and I won't be able to get a coherent response.

By the way, my post didn't indicate anything since it was a question. One nobody seems willing to answer by the way

QED.

 

[MachZer0]

I'd ask you why you even mentioned it, but I sense you are starting in on your usual "dance around your own point" thing and I won't be able to get a coherent response.

I asked the question because I consider it a distinct possibility and wondered if others do as well. Do you consider it beyond the realm of possibility?

 

[thaumaturgy]

I asked the question because I consider it a distinct possibility

Because you think all muslims are like the Muslim Brotherhood? Because you really don't know much of anything in detail about one of the major religions on the planet so you have a cartoon view?

Or that you just wanted to get another (yawn) pointless point out about Obama?

Hmmm.

and wondered if others do as well.

Why not ask "Fox and Friends"? I bet they do. But remember, not everyone is as ignorant of the world's population and their belief systems.

Do you consider it beyond the realm of possibility?

Yeah, I kinda do. Because Obama has shown no inclination to "Islamist" overt support at any point in his presidency.

But you guys (who seemingly think all muslims when not conducting jihad against the west are just waiting to conduct jihad against the west) just keep acting like Obama has said or done like ANYTHING to indicate some penchant for creeping shariah law.

Give it a rest. The guy's been in office for about a full term now and guess what? No shariah law! No communist dictatorship!

No "non-citizen" initiatives that aren't almost exactly like most of the Republican administrations before him! (Do you recall Reagan's amnesty program?)

So why not lay off Obama? OR, how about a change of pace: why not focus on real issues with Obama instead of this ridiculous nefarious secret muslim garbage?

Go ahead, dance around your original point. We all understood what it was the minute it crawled out of your keyboard.

And while you're at it: try talking to a muslim some time. There's about 1.6 billion to choose from out there. And about 1.3 billion of 'em are (gasp) moderates.

So you'll have to look harder to find your favorite "cartoon muslim".

 

[MachZer0]

Because you think all muslims are like the Muslim Brotherhood? Because you really don't know much of anything in detail about one of the major religions on the planet so you have a cartoon view?
Or that you just wanted to get another (yawn) pointless point out about Obama?

Hmmm.

I'm not sure how you inferred all of that from a simple question.

Why not ask "Fox and Friends"? I bet they do. But remember, not everyone is as ignorant of the world's population and their belief systems.

Do they post here. If so, I could ask them

Yeah, I kinda do. Because Obama has shown no inclination to "Islamist" overt support at any point in his presidency.

You mean like not interfering in the Iranian protests, or indeed interfering in the Libyan conflict or bowing to the Saudi Royalty?

But you guys (who seemingly think all muslims when not conducting jihad against the west are just waiting to conduct jihad against the west) just keep acting like Obama has said or done like ANYTHING to indicate some penchant for creeping shariah law.

Don't recall saying any of that, nor alluding to it all

Give it a rest. The guy's been in office for about a full term now and guess what? No shariah law! No communist dictatorship!

Don't recall saying that either

No "non-citizen" initiatives that aren't almost exactly like most of the Republican administrations before him! (Do you recall Reagan's amnesty program?)

Don't recall bringing that up either

So why not lay off Obama? OR, how about a change of pace: why not focus on real issues with Obama instead of this ridiculous nefarious secret muslim garbage?

Don't recall mentioning anything about secret Muslims

Go ahead, dance around your original point. We all understood what it was the minute it crawled out of your keyboard.

I see. You were assuming I was sending a coded message. That would explain a lot

And while you're at it: try talking to a muslim some time. There's about 1.6 billion to choose from out there. And about 1.3 billion of 'em are (gasp) moderates.

I've known plenty of muslims. So what?

So you'll have to look harder to find your favorite "cartoon muslim".

Again, I don't know what that's supposed to mean.

By the way, any chance you'd like to answer my original question?

Could it be because of his Muslim roots?

 

[thaumaturgy]

Seems my last response was a bit too harsh. My apologies. I'll try to tone it down for you this time.

I'm not sure how you inferred all of that from a simple question.

Yes I love it that you are so "innocent" with your simple question. You are like Forrest Gump just asking simple questions with no agenda whatsoever.

But I'm curious why you would assume that Obama's childhood exposure to Islam would in any way make him prone to supporting an Islamist group unless you actually think that just any muslim would be in league with the MB.

Of course to arrive at that conclusion you'd have to assume that the Egyptians were ridiculously happy with this choice since most of them are muslim.

No, your question was freighted with so much subtext and we all know your political leanings, so I'm curious if you actually think we are all just idiots and that your question was a simple question without any background.

Do they post here. If so, I could ask them

Ummm, I think you know where to find them. I suspect you know them quite well.

You mean like not interfering in the Iranian protests, or indeed interfering in the Libyan conflict or bowing to the Saudi Royalty?

NYT: Obama Condemns Iran’s Iron Fist Against Protests
Obama Signed Secret Libya Order Authorizing Support For Rebels

Wow, Obama is so anti democracy!

As for bowing to a foreign head of state I believe that is called "etiquette". If you think that foreign head of stated felt that the US would do his bidding you have a very skewed and hilarious view of the world. The US is the leader of the free world. If Obama bows to some foreign leader it means nothing. We can wipe out any nation on the planet earth we want. We can do whatever we want.

If I shake hands with someone I don't like, it doesn't mean I'm going to then be his willing slave.

This whole "bowing to foreign dignitaries" plays well with the "FIND ANY FAULT WITH OBAMA CROWD"

While you're at it: learn some history.

Bush kissy kissy with the Saudis:

Nixon bowing to Mao (MAO!)

Bushy bowing to the Queen of England

HINT TO CONSERVATIVES: THIS IS CALLED "ETIQUETTE". If you guys don't understand the concept maybe you should try to critique politicians.

I see. You were assuming I was sending a coded message. That would explain a lot

No I dont' think you are capable of sending a coded message. I think your agenda is quite clear.

 

[MachZer0]

Seems my last response was a bit too harsh. My apologies. I'll try to tone it down for you this time.



Yes I love it that you are so "innocent" with your simple question. You are like Forrest Gump just asking simple questions with no agenda whatsoever.

It seems the question was not so simple since the answer would have been either a yes or a no

But I'm curious why you would assume that Obama's childhood exposure to Islam would in any way make him prone to supporting an Islamist group unless you actually think that just any muslim would be in league with the MB.

Childhood experiences tend to have that effect on people

Of course to arrive at that conclusion you'd have to assume that the Egyptians were ridiculously happy with this choice since most of them are muslim.

No, your question was freighted with so much subtext and we all know your political leanings, so I'm curious if you actually think we are all just idiots and that your question was a simple question without any background.

Questions don't entail conclusions

Ummm, I think you know where to find them. I suspect you know them quite well.

No, I don't even know who they are except for that Dusey guy. Is that his name? Do you have their contact information?

NYT: Obama Condemns Iran’s Iron Fist Against Protests
Obama Signed Secret Libya Order Authorizing Support For Rebels

Wow, Obama is so anti democracy!

The question isn't about him being pro or anti Democracy

As for bowing to a foreign head of state I believe that is called "etiquette". If you think that foreign head of stated felt that the US would do his bidding you have a very skewed and hilarious view of the world. The US is the leader of the free world. If Obama bows to some foreign leader it means nothing. We can wipe out any nation on the planet earth we want. We can do whatever we want.

Some say Muslims see bowing as submission

If I shake hands with someone I don't like, it doesn't mean I'm going to then be his willing slave.

This whole "bowing to foreign dignitaries" plays well with the "FIND ANY FAULT WITH OBAMA CROWD"

I don't know anybody who views handshaking as a submissive act

While you're at it: learn some history.

Bush kissy kissy with the Saudis:


Nixon bowing to Mao (MAO!)



Bushy bowing to the Queen of England



HINT TO CONSERVATIVES: THIS IS CALLED "ETIQUETTE". If you guys don't understand the concept maybe you should try to critique politicians.

This thread is about Obama

No I dont' think you are capable of sending a coded message. I think your agenda is quite clear.

I'll wait and see if anybody else would like to answer the question