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... Bearing in mind that God has no gender , but most draw back from calling 'Him' 'It'... the image of God as 'Father' is a good analogy , we as very naughty children sinning when He tells us we do ourseves harm that way and seeks to convince us lovingly to TRY LOVE and find out how much MORE ALIVE we feel ay ONE with our own created hearts, conscience, mind and our spirit 'from' Him ...
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
it is then only by our spirit , given to ALL by God , that we can be resurrected , noting for instance that our bodies, the very elements thereof are destroyed with this earth and heavens, and only that which is of God cannot be destroyed...
Luke 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
gender then is a thing of this sex-obsessed world of evil... it is of little interest even to the few saints of this world :-
Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord:
yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress,
I say,
that it is good for a man so to be.
27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.
But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned;
and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned.
Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.
But this I say, brethren, the time is short:
it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none
1 Corinthians 7:24-29
... sex was good ofr multiplying to fill the earth, but we have done that to XS , 50,000 mostly little kids , increasing numbers, die DAILY of simple MISERABLE starvation because men do not LOVE one another...
... sex is no longer much about reproduction so much as lust, pleasure, even in fornication, or between those of same gender mocking God's division of the sexes, ... what use this as an analogy ?
God speaks of Israel as the 'wife' of His 'youth' by analogy , that He will take back [as per the new covenant - Jer 31:31-34 - grace to those rejected ... and Christ the bridegroom of the renewed marriage ceremony for those whose fathers broke the old covenant ...
but it is for sake of God's promise, that prophecy may be seen to come true, showing the power of LOVE , of God, to overcome rebellious stiff-necked Israel by love alone ... to persuade of His truth in face of lies by Satan...
again it is not really about gender ...
and it is not only about Jews and gentiles either , since Jesus was sent ONLY to the House of Israel and they were never Jews , never accepted Judaism , did not even worship God and still do not except a few whom saints have taught to seek God
Deuteronomy 28:64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.
Now the 'Jews' [House of Judah = tribe of Judah + half the tribe of Levi as priests+ some of Benjamin] did not serve God very well according to Jesus' witness... but they did serve God ,however well or badly... it is then the House of Israel which was scattered first amongst all nations to serve other gods which their fathers had not known , not the Jews... who were scattered later ... but kept their identity as Israel ... as a people ... because of Judaism , but not the House of Israel led by Ephraim :-
Isaiah 7:8 For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people.
but Jesus is sent by God ONLY to the LOST House of Israel, not even to the Jews [who are easier to find, but most still do not believe Jesus is THEIR Messiah, the Christ]
Psalms 98:3 He hath remembered his mercy and his truth toward the house of Israel: all the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God.
Psalms 115:12 The LORD hath been mindful of us: he will bless us; he will bless the house of Israel; he will bless the house of Aaron.
Isaiah 46:3 Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb:
Revelation 12:2 ... she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
Isaiah 63:7 I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the LORD, and the praises of the LORD, according to all that the LORD hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses.
Jeremiah 3:18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.
Ezekiel 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
--- now most of the Jews claim that the House of Israel merged with the Jews but God says they are scattered worldwide living as gentiles in gentile nations and serve other gods ... Jesus says he is sent to find them , not sent to find the Jews [which is far easier :-
Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.[Messiah of Israel, the one anointed king of prophesied re- united Israel]
Jeremiah 3:20 Surely as a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have ye dealt treacherously with me, O house of Israel, saith the LORD.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
...
34 ...for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
---- this is the ONLY new covenant , repeated in Heb 8:8-12 ... the house of Israel was rejected, but now is accepted FOR GOD's SAKE not theirs, because of God's promises to descendants of Jacob ... prophecies in promises of God that God cannot let fail just because Israel rebelled , failed the old covenant ...
Jeremiah 11:10 They are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers, which refused to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them: the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers.
Jeremiah 18:6 O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.
Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jeremiah 33:14 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah.
Jeremiah 33:17 For thus saith the LORD; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;
Ezekiel 5:4 Then take of them again, and cast them into the midst of the fire, and burn them in the fire; for thereof shall a fire come forth into all the house of Israel.
Ezekiel 8:10 So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about.
Ezekiel 9:9 Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not.
Ezekiel 11:5 And the Spirit of the LORD fell upon me, and said unto me, Speak; Thus saith the LORD; Thus have ye said, O house of Israel: for I know the things that come into your mind, every one of them.
Ezekiel 12:10 Say thou unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; This burden concerneth the prince in Jerusalem, and all the house of Israel that are among them.
Ezekiel 12:24 For there shall be no more any vain vision nor flattering divination within the house of Israel.
Ezekiel 13:9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 14:4 Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the LORD will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols;
Ezekiel 14:5 That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.
Ezekiel 14:6 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.
Ezekiel 14:7 For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the LORD will answer him by myself:
Ezekiel 14:11 That the house of Israel may go no more astray from me, neither be polluted any more with all their transgressions; but that they may be my people, and I may be their God, saith the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 18:25 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?
...
Ezekiel 18:30 Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.
Ezekiel 18:31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Ezekiel 20:13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.
--- this be a stubborn rebellious 'wife' ... but its femininity is rather irrelevant to the analogy
Isaiah 54:3 For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited.
4 Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.
5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
6 For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.
7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.
8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.
9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.
10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.
I would not say it was about gender ... sex is rather irrelevant , not a useful analogy I think... apart from the bond of love ... but that is real love of all , brotherly love, not sexual lust... and indeed it is the sort of love God expects between man and wife, but modern folks scarce understand that , so it is of little use as analogy in explanation.....
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
it is then only by our spirit , given to ALL by God , that we can be resurrected , noting for instance that our bodies, the very elements thereof are destroyed with this earth and heavens, and only that which is of God cannot be destroyed...
Luke 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
gender then is a thing of this sex-obsessed world of evil... it is of little interest even to the few saints of this world :-
Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord:
yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress,
I say,
that it is good for a man so to be.
27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.
But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned;
and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned.
Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.
But this I say, brethren, the time is short:
it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none
1 Corinthians 7:24-29
... sex was good ofr multiplying to fill the earth, but we have done that to XS , 50,000 mostly little kids , increasing numbers, die DAILY of simple MISERABLE starvation because men do not LOVE one another...
... sex is no longer much about reproduction so much as lust, pleasure, even in fornication, or between those of same gender mocking God's division of the sexes, ... what use this as an analogy ?
God speaks of Israel as the 'wife' of His 'youth' by analogy , that He will take back [as per the new covenant - Jer 31:31-34 - grace to those rejected ... and Christ the bridegroom of the renewed marriage ceremony for those whose fathers broke the old covenant ...
but it is for sake of God's promise, that prophecy may be seen to come true, showing the power of LOVE , of God, to overcome rebellious stiff-necked Israel by love alone ... to persuade of His truth in face of lies by Satan...
again it is not really about gender ...
and it is not only about Jews and gentiles either , since Jesus was sent ONLY to the House of Israel and they were never Jews , never accepted Judaism , did not even worship God and still do not except a few whom saints have taught to seek God
Deuteronomy 28:64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.
Now the 'Jews' [House of Judah = tribe of Judah + half the tribe of Levi as priests+ some of Benjamin] did not serve God very well according to Jesus' witness... but they did serve God ,however well or badly... it is then the House of Israel which was scattered first amongst all nations to serve other gods which their fathers had not known , not the Jews... who were scattered later ... but kept their identity as Israel ... as a people ... because of Judaism , but not the House of Israel led by Ephraim :-
Isaiah 7:8 For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people.
but Jesus is sent by God ONLY to the LOST House of Israel, not even to the Jews [who are easier to find, but most still do not believe Jesus is THEIR Messiah, the Christ]
Psalms 98:3 He hath remembered his mercy and his truth toward the house of Israel: all the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God.
Psalms 115:12 The LORD hath been mindful of us: he will bless us; he will bless the house of Israel; he will bless the house of Aaron.
Isaiah 46:3 Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb:
Revelation 12:2 ... she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
Isaiah 63:7 I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the LORD, and the praises of the LORD, according to all that the LORD hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses.
Jeremiah 3:18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.
Ezekiel 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
--- now most of the Jews claim that the House of Israel merged with the Jews but God says they are scattered worldwide living as gentiles in gentile nations and serve other gods ... Jesus says he is sent to find them , not sent to find the Jews [which is far easier :-
Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.[Messiah of Israel, the one anointed king of prophesied re- united Israel]
Jeremiah 3:20 Surely as a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have ye dealt treacherously with me, O house of Israel, saith the LORD.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
...
34 ...for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
---- this is the ONLY new covenant , repeated in Heb 8:8-12 ... the house of Israel was rejected, but now is accepted FOR GOD's SAKE not theirs, because of God's promises to descendants of Jacob ... prophecies in promises of God that God cannot let fail just because Israel rebelled , failed the old covenant ...
Jeremiah 11:10 They are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers, which refused to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them: the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers.
Jeremiah 18:6 O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.
Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jeremiah 33:14 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah.
Jeremiah 33:17 For thus saith the LORD; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;
Ezekiel 5:4 Then take of them again, and cast them into the midst of the fire, and burn them in the fire; for thereof shall a fire come forth into all the house of Israel.
Ezekiel 8:10 So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about.
Ezekiel 9:9 Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not.
Ezekiel 11:5 And the Spirit of the LORD fell upon me, and said unto me, Speak; Thus saith the LORD; Thus have ye said, O house of Israel: for I know the things that come into your mind, every one of them.
Ezekiel 12:10 Say thou unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; This burden concerneth the prince in Jerusalem, and all the house of Israel that are among them.
Ezekiel 12:24 For there shall be no more any vain vision nor flattering divination within the house of Israel.
Ezekiel 13:9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 14:4 Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the LORD will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols;
Ezekiel 14:5 That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.
Ezekiel 14:6 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.
Ezekiel 14:7 For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the LORD will answer him by myself:
Ezekiel 14:11 That the house of Israel may go no more astray from me, neither be polluted any more with all their transgressions; but that they may be my people, and I may be their God, saith the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 18:25 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?
...
Ezekiel 18:30 Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.
Ezekiel 18:31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Ezekiel 20:13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.
--- this be a stubborn rebellious 'wife' ... but its femininity is rather irrelevant to the analogy
Isaiah 54:3 For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited.
4 Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.
5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
6 For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.
7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.
8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.
9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.
10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.
I would not say it was about gender ... sex is rather irrelevant , not a useful analogy I think... apart from the bond of love ... but that is real love of all , brotherly love, not sexual lust... and indeed it is the sort of love God expects between man and wife, but modern folks scarce understand that , so it is of little use as analogy in explanation.....
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