Full-page ad in The New York Times: "It's time to quit the Catholic Church"...

[JacktheCatholic]

I think the Church has warned about taking capitalism to an extreme. But I don't think she has placed an all out prohibition on it.

CCC:

2425 The Church has rejected the totalitarian and atheistic ideologies associated in modem times with "communism" or "socialism." She has likewise refused to accept, in the practice of "capitalism," individualism and the absolute primacy of the law of the marketplace over human labor.207 Regulating the economy solely by centralized planning perverts the basis of social bonds; regulating it solely by the law of the marketplace fails social justice, for "there are many human needs which cannot be satisfied by the market."208 Reasonable regulation of the marketplace and economic initiatives, in keeping with a just hierarchy of values and a view to the common good, is to be commended.

 

[BabyChristian22]

CCC:

The quote you gave from the CCC sounds more to me like it's condemning "individualism and the absolute primacy of the law of the marketplace over human labor" while "in the practice" of capitalism and not necessarily every aspect of capitalism itself. So to me it sounds like it's condemning capitalism when it's taken to an extreme.

 

[Brooklyn Knight]

The quote you gave from the CCC sounds more to me like it's condemning "individualism and the absolute primacy of the law of the marketplace over human labor" while "in the practice" of capitalism and not necessarily every aspect of capitalism itself. So to me it sounds like it's condemning capitalism when it's taken to an extreme.

In that case, communism can be a great thing when it's not taken to the extreme!

While you get people who bad mouth communism, it's also mixed with some good aspects (Everyone had a job, free medical, free education, education to learn a new trade). Yugoslavia used to allow citizens to travel freely to Western Europe.

 

[xTx]

Unfortunately, and most fortunately, The Catholic Church is stuck with xTx.

no other church honours Mother Mary.

So the people at the newspaper can go and recycle their newspaper. Thank you.

Please stop printing nonsense. You are just killing trees. Aaaaaa.

 

[mg0086]

Unfortunately, and most fortunately, The Catholic Church is stuck with xTx.

no other church honours Mother Mary.

So the people at the newspaper can go and recycle their newspaper. Thank you.

Please stop printing nonsense. You are just killing trees. Aaaaaa.

I'mma use it to line my cat's litter box!

 

[Michie]

Pro-abortion bigot group attacks Catholics in Hell’s Bible paid ad. Catholic League explains.


From the Catholic League:

FRONTAL ASSAULT ON CATHOLICISM
MARCH 9, 2012 BY ADMIN

Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments as follows:
Never has there been a more vicious anti-Catholic advertisement in a prominent American newspaper than the one in today’s New York Times[Hell's Bible] by Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF).
The demonization of Catholicism is palpable.
The pretext of the ad [click here] is the Catholic Church’s opposition to the Health and Human Services mandate forcing Catholic non-profits to include abortion-inducing drugs, contraception and sterilization in its insurance plans. Its real agenda is to smear Catholicism. Here is how the ad begins: “It’s time to quit the Roman Catholic Church. Will it be reproductive freedom, or back to the Dark Ages?” [I wonder if they get any money from an Obama superpac or the DCCC. How do you find out where 501c3's get their money? Is it even possible? I digress.]

The ad blames the Catholic Church for promoting “acute misery, poverty, needless suffering, unwanted pregnancies, overpopulation, social evils and deaths.” [Probably because of all the hospitals, schools and charities the Church has built and run.] It says the bishops are “launching a ruthless political Inquisition” against women. [NB: Like all lefties, they mendaciously reduce what the Church teaches to something "political". Always watch for that. When the Church teaches doctrine, the Church's enemies say it is "political" and that the Church's teachings are "policies".] It talks about “preying priests” and corruption “going all the way to the top.”
In an appeal to Catholic women, it opines, “Apparently, you’re like the battered woman who, after being beaten down every Sunday, feels she has no place else to go.” [But abortion and contraception, the liberal sacraments, have freed women to be treated like objects. That must be the goal of this group: turn women into tools for making money for big-business abortion. Do you suppose this group gets any money from Planned Parenthood? I don't know the answer. I'm just askin']
FFRF is led by a husband and wife team, Annie Laurie Gaylor and Dan Barker. Fortunately for Gaylor, her mother did not follow through on the advice she gave women in her book, Abortion Is a Blessing. [For people like this, for their secularist religion of self-worship, abortion is a sacrament.]
Not a single Catholic who reads this ad will be impelled to leave the Church. That is not the issue (Catholicism, unlike many other religions, is actually growing in the U.S., and worldwide).
The issue is the increase in hate speech directed at Catholics.
Nothing will stop Catholics from demanding that the Obama administration respect their First Amendment rights, this vile assault by FFRF notwithstanding.
Why the Times allowed this ad is another issue altogether. [Because, Bill, it is Hell's Bible.]
Contact the “free thought” bigots at FFRF: fttoday@mailbag.com
​

Ps 58:

1 To the choirmaster: according to Do Not Destroy. A Miktam of David.
Do you indeed decree what is right, you gods? Do you judge the sons of men uprightly?
2 Nay, in your hearts you devise wrongs; your hands deal out violence on earth.
3 The wicked go astray from the womb, they err from their birth, speaking lies.
4 They have venom like the venom of a serpent, like the deaf adder that stops its ear,
5 so that it does not hear the voice of charmers or of the cunning enchanter.
6 O God, break the teeth in their mouths; tear out the fangs of the young lions, O LORD!
7 Let them vanish like water that runs away; like grass let them be trodden down and wither.
8 Let them be like the snail which dissolves into slime, like the untimely birth that never sees the sun.
9 Sooner than your pots can feel the heat of thorns, whether green or ablaze, may he sweep them away!
10 The righteous will rejoice when he sees the vengeance; he will bathe his feet in the blood of the wicked.
11 Men will say, “Surely there is a reward for the righteous; surely there is a God who judges on earth.”
​

God is our Creator and our Savior and our Judge.
There is a God who judges.

Pray for these people. Let them be defanged. Let them be turned from their ways, lest they like snails in the sun dissolve into slime the NYT prints with, lest they be swept away.

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2012/03/pro-abortion-bigot-group-attacks-catholics-in-hells-bible-paid-ad-catholic-league-explains/
​

 

[Michie]

Pro-abortion bigot group attacks Catholics in Hell’s Bible paid ad. Catholic League explains.


From the Catholic League:

FRONTAL ASSAULT ON CATHOLICISM
MARCH 9, 2012 BY ADMIN

Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments as follows:
Never has there been a more vicious anti-Catholic advertisement in a prominent American newspaper than the one in today’s New York Times[Hell's Bible] by Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF).
The demonization of Catholicism is palpable.
The pretext of the ad [click here] is the Catholic Church’s opposition to the Health and Human Services mandate forcing Catholic non-profits to include abortion-inducing drugs, contraception and sterilization in its insurance plans. Its real agenda is to smear Catholicism. Here is how the ad begins: “It’s time to quit the Roman Catholic Church. Will it be reproductive freedom, or back to the Dark Ages?” [I wonder if they get any money from an Obama superpac or the DCCC. How do you find out where 501c3's get their money? Is it even possible? I digress.]

The ad blames the Catholic Church for promoting “acute misery, poverty, needless suffering, unwanted pregnancies, overpopulation, social evils and deaths.” [Probably because of all the hospitals, schools and charities the Church has built and run.] It says the bishops are “launching a ruthless political Inquisition” against women. [NB: Like all lefties, they mendaciously reduce what the Church teaches to something "political". Always watch for that. When the Church teaches doctrine, the Church's enemies say it is "political" and that the Church's teachings are "policies".] It talks about “preying priests” and corruption “going all the way to the top.”
In an appeal to Catholic women, it opines, “Apparently, you’re like the battered woman who, after being beaten down every Sunday, feels she has no place else to go.” [But abortion and contraception, the liberal sacraments, have freed women to be treated like objects. That must be the goal of this group: turn women into tools for making money for big-business abortion. Do you suppose this group gets any money from Planned Parenthood? I don't know the answer. I'm just askin']
FFRF is led by a husband and wife team, Annie Laurie Gaylor and Dan Barker. Fortunately for Gaylor, her mother did not follow through on the advice she gave women in her book, Abortion Is a Blessing. [For people like this, for their secularist religion of self-worship, abortion is a sacrament.]
Not a single Catholic who reads this ad will be impelled to leave the Church. That is not the issue (Catholicism, unlike many other religions, is actually growing in the U.S., and worldwide).
The issue is the increase in hate speech directed at Catholics.
Nothing will stop Catholics from demanding that the Obama administration respect their First Amendment rights, this vile assault by FFRF notwithstanding.
Why the Times allowed this ad is another issue altogether. [Because, Bill, it is Hell's Bible.]
Contact the “free thought” bigots at FFRF: fttoday@mailbag.com
​

Ps 58:

1 To the choirmaster: according to Do Not Destroy. A Miktam of David.
Do you indeed decree what is right, you gods? Do you judge the sons of men uprightly?
2 Nay, in your hearts you devise wrongs; your hands deal out violence on earth.
3 The wicked go astray from the womb, they err from their birth, speaking lies.
4 They have venom like the venom of a serpent, like the deaf adder that stops its ear,
5 so that it does not hear the voice of charmers or of the cunning enchanter.
6 O God, break the teeth in their mouths; tear out the fangs of the young lions, O LORD!
7 Let them vanish like water that runs away; like grass let them be trodden down and wither.
8 Let them be like the snail which dissolves into slime, like the untimely birth that never sees the sun.
9 Sooner than your pots can feel the heat of thorns, whether green or ablaze, may he sweep them away!
10 The righteous will rejoice when he sees the vengeance; he will bathe his feet in the blood of the wicked.
11 Men will say, “Surely there is a reward for the righteous; surely there is a God who judges on earth.”
​

God is our Creator and our Savior and our Judge.
There is a God who judges.

Pray for these people. Let them be defanged. Let them be turned from their ways, lest they like snails in the sun dissolve into slime the NYT prints with, lest they be swept away.

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2012/03/pro-abortion-bigot-group-attacks-catholics-in-hells-bible-paid-ad-catholic-league-explains/
​

 

[JacktheCatholic]

"Dark Ages" huh... insanity.

I think I will just make my signature to say "INSANITY" since that is what things keep appearing to be to me.

 

[AMDG]

Hmm--Times rejected an anti-Muslim ad that was similar to the anti-Catholic one.

Pamela Geller Submits ‘It’s Time to Quit Islam’ Ad to New York Times | TheBlaze.com

Guess Muslims have a reputation of doing a little more than write letters of protest and the Times just doesn't want to take the chance....

 

[Marian Man]

The enemy must be purged from within. Too many faithless Catholics work to undermine the Bride of Christ.

Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his floor and gather his wheat into the barn; but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.

 

[Borromeo]

]
no other church honours Mother Mary. ]

The Eastern and Oriental Orthodox are gonna be suprised.

 

[Michie]

NY Times accused of anti-Catholic bigotry, cowardice

• By Catholic Online (NEWS CONSORTIUM)
• 3/15/2012
• Catholic Online (www.catholic.org)

Times publishes anti-Catholic ad, but refuses anti-Islam ad.
Sometimes what you don't say reveals as much as what you do say. Following the New York Time's publication of an ad that constitutes a direct, frontal attack on the Catholic Church on behalf of the atheist group Freedom From Religion Foundation, the Times has refused to run a nearly identical ad criticizing Islam.

 

[JacktheCatholic]

NY Times accused of anti-Catholic bigotry, cowardice

• By Catholic Online (NEWS CONSORTIUM)
• 3/15/2012
• Catholic Online (www.catholic.org)

Times publishes anti-Catholic ad, but refuses anti-Islam ad.
Sometimes what you don't say reveals as much as what you do say. Following the New York Time's publication of an ad that constitutes a direct, frontal attack on the Catholic Church on behalf of the atheist group Freedom From Religion Foundation, the Times has refused to run a nearly identical ad criticizing Islam.

You will know them by their Fruits.

 

[WarriorAngel]

The capitalism referred to is the aspect of capitalizing on the backs of workers without decent shared wages and with money being the ultimate end all.

Here is an article:

.
ng on the global Wall Street and its super bonuses, which lead to financial speculation and labor outsourcing. "In recent years, a new cosmopolitan class of managers has emerged, who are often answerable only to the shareholders generally consisting of anonymous funds which de facto determine their remuneration," he writes. "Profit is useful if it serves as a means toward an end. Once profit becomes the exclusive goal, if it is produced by improper means and without the common good as its ultimate end, it risks destroying wealth and creating poverty."



Benedict acknowledges the acceleration of globalization since the last major encyclical dedicated to what is called the church's "social doctrine," Pope Paul VI's Populorum Progressio in 1967. But this too, the Pope says, is inherently neither good nor bad. "We should not be victims of [globalization], but rather its protagonists, acting in the light of reason, guided by charity and truth."

Read more: The Pope on Capitalism: Encyclical 'Charity in Truth' - TIME


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Capitalism is not bad.... it is the unregulated capitalism that abuses the common good.

 

[Antigone]

I'mma use it to line my cat's litter box!

If your cat turns out as an apostate you've only got yourself to blame.

 

[StThomasMore]

In that case, communism can be a great thing when it's not taken to the extreme!

While you get people who bad mouth communism, it's also mixed with some good aspects (Everyone had a job, free medical, free education, education to learn a new trade). Yugoslavia used to allow citizens to travel freely to Western Europe.

Communist countries having free health care?

The idea of free universal health care is an ideal of the welfare state, not communism. Just go to Laos, North Korea, and Vietnam and see how many people have free health care and a job in those places. In China many citizens have to pay for health care, since the government does not pay for them and there are no primary care centers

 

[Incariol]

no other church honours Mother Mary.

Actually...

Anglican Marian theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Theotokos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Brooklyn Knight]

Communist countries having free health care?

The idea of free universal health care is an ideal of the welfare state, not communism. Just go to Laos, North Korea, and Vietnam and see how many people have free health care and a job in those places. In China many citizens have to pay for health care, since the government does not pay for them and there are no primary care centers

Forget Cuba?

Even when communism was alive and well in Eastern Europe, everyone had free medical, if you were inept, they'd give you training and teach you whatever it was needed that a job entailed, and education was a priority and a requirement. It didn't matter if you wanted to do hard labor or work on a farm, you still were required to finish your studies.

Again:

In that case, communism can be a great thing when it's not taken to the extreme!

Take out the required joining of the armed forces, be more lenient in allowing citizens to freely travel (Ex. Yugoslavia), don't have a dictator or a military state, be more open to differing opinions, don't be confrontational to religion...and hey, I really don't have a problem with a one party state!

 

[Michie]

All the news that fits...
This anti-Catholic ad is considered acceptable copy for The New York Times, while this other ad is not. For the sake of argument, let’s grant that the men behind the second ad are bomb-throwing Muslim baiters. And your point is what?

 

[Michie]

N.Y. Times Anti-Catholic Ad Very Similar to Chick Tracts