Why is everybody so afraid of Islam/Muslims?

[MachZer0]

Well, since most Muslims don't hold the Hadith and Sira as valuable as the Qu'ran, they are irrelevant...

Prove it

 

[conamer]

Then you agree that the sin is not removed from the world, correct? That means no peace until man (people) is removed from the Earth.

Believers will be justifed, the unbelivers are cast out.

 

[conamer]

Well, since most Muslims don't hold the Hadith and Sira as valuable as the Qu'ran, they are irrelevant.

So come on. Qu'ran verses. Stop obfuscating and dodging and start showing some Qu'rannic verses.

So history is irrelevant to you, that's why you coddle Islam. It's not important what Muhammad did even though Muslims are told in Islam to be like him.

 

[SmellsLikeCurlyFries]

Prove it

Burn a copy of the Hadith/Sira.

I guarantee you little to nothing will happen.

The Hadith and Sira are to Muslims what the Talmud is to Jews. Secondary to the Qu'ran (or, in the case of the Jews, the Torah).

 

[SmellsLikeCurlyFries]

So history is irrelevant to you, that's why you coddle Islam. It's not important what Muhammad did even though Muslims are told in Islam to be like him.

You're taking what I said out of context. I said the Qu'ran is the most important holy work to Muslims and the Hadith and Sira are extreme second, thereby making them irrelevant to this discussion.

Are you going to show some verses from the Qu'ran, or am I just going to have to assume you have none?

 

[SmellsLikeCurlyFries]

Believers will be justifed, the unbelivers are cast out.

Hm. That's interesting. Sounds exactly like what Islam teaches...

 

[conamer]

You're taking what I said out of context. I said the Qu'ran is the most important holy work to Muslims and the Hadith and Sira are extreme second, thereby making them irrelevant to this discussion.

Are you going to show some verses from the Qu'ran, or am I just going to have to assume you have none?

You said you weren't interested in Muhammad's life, the Hadith is the traditions of Islam and Sira the biography. If Mauhammad's life is not important why does the Qur'an tell Muslims to emulate him in 91 verses, 85 of which are in the more violent Medinian verse after the illiterate desert dwelling reprobate was rejected by educated Jews?? Why are we suppose to believe Islam is peaceful?

 

[Theofane]

Islam is not peaceful. Whoever says otherwise is a liar.

 

[conamer]

Hm. That's interesting. Sounds exactly like what Islam teaches...

In Islam there is no salvation message, no assurance of salvation unless you kill unbelievers or be killed in the act. Justification in the bible means to be pure in God's sight because Jesus advocates for us because we put our faith in Him.

 

[rturner76]

People should learn about Islam before they comment about it.

 

[Rion]

So history is irrelevant to you, that's why you coddle Islam. It's not important what Muhammad did even though Muslims are told in Islam to be like him.

Pretty much. If you look a few pages back, you'll see he even denies how the Muslims treated those they conquered, or if it really happened, it was justified because the Muslims were so much more enlightened than the Christians.

In all honesty, he comes off as a guy who has an axe to grind against Christianity and is using a discussion about Islam to do so.

 

[conamer]

Pretty much. If you look a few pages back, you'll see he even denies how the Muslims treated those they conquered, or if it really happened, it was justified because the Muslims were so much more enlightened than the Christians.

In all honesty, he comes off as a guy who has an axe to grind against Christianity and is using a discussion about Islam to do so.

Of course, the defense of Islam is the offense of Christianity, cutting of your nose to spite your face.

 

[rturner76]

So you fear Muslims will conquer the USA? WHat do you fear exactly about Islam?

 

[Rion]

So you fear Muslims will conquer the USA? WHat do you fear exactly about Islam?

I never said that.

 

[rturner76]

Oh, I thought that was the OP's question and I wasn't directing the question at anyone in particular

 

[steve_bakr]

Of course, the defense of Islam is the offense of Christianity, cutting of your nose to spite your face.

The two religions can--must--coexist for the sake of the world. Those who spread hate towards either religion are working against that peace.

 

[USincognito]

but they are our friends and allies.

"Judge Mark Martin is also a Muslim."

Judge Martin isn't a Muslim. That's misinformation being spread by Jihad Watch type bloggers.

 

[VictoriasImage77]

According to the FBI, about 6% of terrorism in the U.S. is Muslim.

7% is Jewish

Yeah, but also according to them anyone who owns a gun or stores extra food is also suspect

 

[Theofane]

If there had been more Jihad Watch type activity prior to 9/11, the Twin Towers might still be standing.

 

[HakeemSupreme]

If there had been more Jihad Watch type activity prior to 9/11, the Twin Towers might still be standing.

If the US hadn't attacked a majority of the Arab world for several decades the towers would probably be standing too.