Impeach Every Senator Who Votes for "U.S. is a Battlefield" Bill that Violates Basic

[katsung47]

If you still care for your own rights.

Quote, "Impeach Every Senator Who Votes for "U.S. is a Battlefield" Bill that Violates Basic Rights

Petition to IMPEACH ALL Senators who Voted for "U.S. is a Battlefield" and to detain U.S. Citizens without trial

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/892/...attlefield-and-to-detain-us-citizens-without/

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National Defense Authorization Act. (Liberty end)

congress.org ^ | 11/29/11 | Cathedra
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:55:39 AM by Broker

Under the ‘worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial’ provision of S.1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which is set to be up for a vote on the Senate floor this week, the legislation will “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who supports the bill.

The bill was drafted in SECRET by Senators Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.), before being passed in a closed-door committee meeting without any kind of hearing. The language appears in sections 1031 and 1032 of the NDAA bill.

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The New National Defense Authorization Act Is Ridiculously Scary

David Seaman, Credit Card Outlaw | Nov. 30, 2011,

Fellow entrepreneurs, Americans, anyone who still cares about this country at all -- this is a must read: By the end of this week, the US government very likely will have the power to lock up US citizens for life at Guantanamo Bay or other military prisons -- without charge and without trial. This means that, in the near future, a controversial Twitter post, attending a peaceful protest, or publishing an anti-Congress critique or anti-TSA rant on Google+ could land you "indefinite detention" for life, in the wording of the bill. No access to a lawyer, no access to trial.

 

[Chris81]

I knew this would happen eventually. This country is already a police state but will soon enough become an inhospitable place to live.

 

[oliverb]

I knew this would happen eventually. This country is already a police state but will soon enough become an inhospitable place to live.

I'm afraid you're right.

 

[Merope]

It will be stripped from the final version as soon as it hits the House. Also as I recall President Obama has said he will veto the bill if this amendment is left in there.

 

[keith99]

Does anyone here know what impeachment is? And who creates the articles of impeachment? And who tries the impeachment?

The idea of impeaching a senator for a position taken on a bill is far more frightening than anything that could be in such a bill.

(Stop and think about it for a second).

 

[katsung47]

696. Two bombings to achieve the Patriot Act Bill (12/5/2011)

In 1990s twice I left US because I couldn’t endure the persecution from the Feds. At that time, the US was still a free country. I bought an air ticket. No one asked a word. There was no security search. It was like a domestic bus trip. That now becomes Alice in Wonderland. It was not the Feds wanted. They needed a power to search and detain without any reason. To achieve that goal, they activated two “terror attacks”.

The first attempt was OKC bombing. I allege so based on timing. I left US in July 1994 and returned in May 1995. The Feds must have felt the needs of a law to confine their dislikes to travel freely. To get me back to the US, they had dealt with the Chinese secret police. In April, my application to extend my stay in Shanghai was rejected. In same month, OKC bombing took place.
The evidence now proved the FBI conducted this bombing.

TERRY NICHOLS IMPLICATES FBI INFORMANT IN BOMBING

Amazing New Evidence Emerges in Oklahoma Bombing
By Pat Shannan
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There are now serious allegations that the FBI, using an informer as a conduit, supplied McVeigh and Nichols with the blasting components the two used to construct explosive devices, one of which may have been employed in the tragic Oklahoma City bombing.

TERRY NICHOLS IMPLICATES FBI INFORMANT IN BOMBING

Thursday, August 18, 2011

Oklahoma City Bombing: FBI Informants Reported on ABC News, McVeigh Defense Team

FBI informants reporting on the Oklahoma City bombing provided the bureau with leads taken from ABC News and Timothy McVeigh's defense team, according to documents filed in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.

Oklahoma City Bombing: FBI Informants Reported on ABC News, McVeigh Defense Team | INTELWIRE by J.M. Berger | Research, reporting and analysis on terrorism | Author of Jihad Joe," a new book on American jihadists | Research, Freedom of Information Ac

In early 2000s, I have learned from a news that said former FBI Chief Louis Freeh had proposed a bill similar to the Patriot Act after OKC bombing but failed to get it go through. I tried to have a google search for that article but failed. The Feds must have sheltered most information that related to their crime. They control information with their cyber team and NSA. Anyhow, I found another information little noticed by the public.

Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996
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The Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, Pub. L. No. 104-132, 110 Stat. 1214, (also known as AEDPA) is an act of Congress signed into law on April 24, 1996. ……following the Oklahoma City bombing, and signed into law by President Bill Clinton.[1]

Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Although the Feds failed to get The Patriot Act in 1996, that AEDPA revealed their intention. Be noticed that the title shows they used terrorism to expand their power five years earlier of 911.

Next time I left US in March 1999 and returned to the States in July 2000. One year later they bombed WTC. This time they got what they wanted – the Patriot Act.

The Patriot Act gives the Feds expanded (unreasonable) power of search and arrest. It seems they do not satisfy with this. Now they want to have the power to detain the citizens without trial for life.

Petition to IMPEACH ALL Senators who Voted for "U.S. is a Battlefield" and to detain U.S. Citizens without trial

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/892/...attlefield-and-to-detain-us-citizens-without/

The New National Defense Authorization Act Is Ridiculously Scary
David Seaman, Credit Card Outlaw | Nov. 30, 2011,

Fellow entrepreneurs, Americans, anyone who still cares about this country at all -- this is a must read: By the end of this week, the US government very likely will have the power to lock up US citizens for life at Guantanamo Bay or other military prisons -- without charge and without trial. This means that, in the near future, a controversial Twitter post, attending a peaceful protest, or publishing an anti-Congress critique or anti-TSA rant on Google+ could land you "indefinite detention" for life, in the wording of the bill. No access to a lawyer, no access to trial.

With this Act, what’s the good for the Constitution?

 

[NotreDame]

Wow you guys are misinformed. The legislation which passed the Senate lacked the provision you guys are protesting against. So, what is the basis of the objection? Are you just angry for the sake of being angry or do you actually have a palpable, real, and tangible reason to be so irate?

 

[SOAD]

Wow you guys are misinformed. The legislation which passed the Senate lacked the provision you guys are protesting against. So, what is the basis of the objection? Are you just angry for the sake of being angry or do you actually have a palpable, real, and tangible reason to be so irate?

They need a super duper Mr smartie pants guy to insult them a bit, then to set them straight. Do you want the job?

 

[NotreDame]

They need a super duper Mr smartie pants guy to insult them a bit, then to set them straight. Do you want the job?

No, I do not want the job, but there are open positions for people to be angry about something which actually is in the version which passed the senate, as opposed to manufacturing outrage over a provision which did not pass the senate.

 

[tulc]

Arrested Development - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 12/07/11 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

Arrested Development - One-Way Train to Gitmo - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 12/07/11 - Video Clip | Comedy Central
tulc(Jon takes both sides to task)

 

[Drunk On Love]

Maybe the impeachment should be limited to the people who voted for it when that clause was still in it ? At the very least the person who proposed it should be impeached for a violation of the oath they swore when they took office.

 

[katsung47]

The point of danger is that it's easy for the Feds to turn US into a "battle fields".

Either to put some provocateurs in Occypy Wall Streets movement or to extend the "killing field" in Mexico to the US land. We all know that the "Operation Fast and Furious" was planned and conducted by the D.O.J..

At that time you would be in jail because you have given up your civil rights already. Nobody can help you.

 

[Blayz]

The bill was drafted in SECRET by Senators Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.), before being passed in a closed-door committee meeting without any kind of hearing. The language appears in sections 1031 and 1032 of the NDAA bill.

So we know who wrote it, what document it lives in, and where and when it was discussed.

Katsung47, do you actually understand the meaning of the word "secret"? For your information, it means the exact opposite of "everyone everywhere knows everything about it, and it gets discussed on public forums on the internet"

 

[katsung47]

It will become a new fascist law of this country.

Congress Approves Provisions for Indefinite Arrests and Detention of US Citizen

SF Conservative Examiner
December 18, 2011

Enemies of the People & U.S. Constitution; Congressional Traitors Approved Provisions for Indefinite Arrests, and Detentions of U.S. Citizens, with no Due Processes, Mainly Those Who Criticize Government:

S.1867, the National Defense Authorization Act, attacks on our liberties was passed to the dismay of Libertarians all over.

Congress Approves Provisions for Indefinite Arrests and Detention of US Citizens - San Francisco Conservative | Examiner.com

 

[katsung47]

First they massacred Branch Davidian in Waco Siege,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Davidian.

Then they created OKC bombing, tried to get a Patriot act,
and I didn't speak out because I didn't want to offend the Feds.

Then they created 911 attack to get the Patriot Act and war,
and I didn't speak out because I am not a muslim.

Now they come for US citizens with military Authorization Act,
and I didn't speak out because I am not a terrorist.

Then when they prison you as a terrorist,
and there is no law to protect you because you have given up all your civil rights already.

 

[Publius]

It will be stripped from the final version as soon as it hits the House. Also as I recall President Obama has said he will veto the bill if this amendment is left in there.

...right after he closes Gitmo.

 

[NotreDame]

It will become a new fascist law of this country.

Wrong...you need to read the law as opposed to giving deference to some left-wing mischaracterization of it.

 

[katsung47]

Wrong...you need to read the law as opposed to giving deference to some left-wing mischaracterization of it.

ACLUs statement regarding that section ^^

“Don’t be confused by anyone claiming that the indefinite detention legislation does not apply to American citizens. It does. There is an exemption for American citizens from the mandatory detention requirement (section 1032 of the bill), but no exemption for American citizens from the authorization to use the military to indefinitely detain people without charge or trial (section 1031 of the bill). So, the result is that, under the bill, the military has the power to indefinitely imprison American citizens, but it does not have to use its power unless ordered to do so. But you don’t have to believe us. Instead, read what one of the bill’s sponsors, Sen. Lindsey Graham said about it on the Senate floor: “1031, the statement of authority to detain, does apply to American citizens and it designates the world as the battlefield, including the homeland.”

SEC. 1031. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE. (a) In General- Congress affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40) includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons (as defined in subsection (b)) pending disposition under the law of war. (b) Covered Persons- A covered person under this section is any person as follows: (1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks. (2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces. (c) Disposition Under Law of War- The disposition of a person under the law of war as described in subsection (a) may include the following: (1) Detention under the law of war without trial until the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force. (2) Trial under chapter 47A of title 10, United States Code (as amended by the Military Commissions Act of 2009 (title XVIII of Public Law 111-84)). (3) Transfer for trial by an alternative court or competent tribunal having lawful jurisdiction. (4) Transfer to the custody or control of the person's country of origin, any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity.

Kiss Your Rights Goodbye, America.

 

[Wolseley]

When the ACLU is against Comrade Obama for anything, you know things are bad....very, very bad.

 

[Publius]

When the ACLU is against Comrade Obama for anything, you know things are bad....very, very bad.

That's not really fair. It's true that the ACLU has a very bad reputation it's true that, in many cases, they've earned that reputation, but they also do a lot of good things, working to keep the government in check.