The Ugly Face of Socialism

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I had a thot...
Put the solar panels over a roof of sorts to protect small animals and leave them shade while the panels still work?

I dont know, someone with a better mind could figure that out.
 
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I'm not sure how and if storage works, but in the summer in a southern state in an area that's already desert(ed), I think it's worth a shot.

Especially because mass production of solar panels would make the price drop.

Unfortunately, storage is just way too expensive. Electricity can be stored in capacitors or batteries. Neither are cheap, neither are very efficient. Solar and wind can both generate serious power when the wind and sun are doing their thing. Storing that power for a rainy, windless day just isn't reasonable today. Tey are great secondary sources to life the coal/fossil/nuke burden, but they just aren't primary sources yet. Under the right circumstances (a natural falls, for example) hydro power is sustainable and reliable.
 
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Improbability drive.

42 solar panels would be just enough.

Unfortunately, storage is just way too expensive. Electricity can be stored in capacitors or batteries. Neither are cheap, neither are very efficient. Solar and wind can both generate serious power when the wind and sun are doing their thing. Storing that power for a rainy, windless day just isn't reasonable today. Tey are great secondary sources to life the coal/fossil/nuke burden, but they just aren't primary sources yet. Under the right circumstances (a natural falls, for example) hydro power is sustainable and reliable.

If you have, like, mountains and stuff.

Hi. Have we met? I'm from the Netherlands. We have exactly one mountain. It's so small you might trip over it.
 
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All forms of government are basically evil. All forms of government usually try to co-opt their local area religions into their own fold. For Christianity it all started with Constantine. After him, we were never the same. The Holy Roman Empire, and later various Popes, advocated anti-Semitism, crusades, feudal society norms which essentially amounted to slavery for the majority of people, who were poor, etc.

In America today the liberals talk about fulfilling Christian values by having the government take care of the poor. There are over 2 thousand verses in the old and new testaments calling us to care for the poor. Christians should, and largely do, care about the poor. The democratic party, however, is not taking care of the poor. They are creating a large, ineffective and very expensive government that advertises that they take care of the poor instead.

The republicans court the conservative Christians, and promote capital punishment, war, not to mention legislation favoring the rich. It should not be that easy to persuade a Christian that it is somehow ok to kill other people for whatever reason.

Both parties are out for power at all costs, both parties essentially claim to be God. Listen to any politician - they all promise the world. Neither party particularly cares for God's creation, but they claim to be green. They all promise to end poverty, create jobs, get our boys home from wherever, protect our borders, provide affordable health care and retirement, etc.

Christianity works best as an underground movement. Vote however you like, but recognize that we are separate from them. We don't put our hopes in legislation, or big armies, or strong economies. We put our faith in Jesus, we take care of our own, individually where we find ourselves. The United Stated government will someday fall apart. Our church is eternal.
 
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Wow, socialism has an ugly face.

Thank goodness we would have to move to Venezuela or Sweden to see it.
Hm, I wouldn't mind moving to Sweden. :clap: Low population density, beautiful nature, I love the language & literature, and their political system is comparable to ours. Climate is good for albinos like me. I wouldn't mind moving to Norway, Denmark or Finland either.
 
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Hm, I wouldn't mind moving to Sweden. :clap: Low population density, beautiful nature, I love the language & literature, and their political system is comparable to ours. Climate is good for albinos like me. I wouldn't mind moving to Norway, Denmark or Finland either.

I am sure that I would find many things to like about Sweden. I am just responding to the title of the thread, "The Ugly Face of Socialism." The OP obviously thinks socialism is "ugly," but of course, if the OP is American, (s)he has not conception of what socialism really is.

Before you can discern how "ugly" it is, you have to be using an accurate definition.
 
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Are you not an American? And by the way, my gender icon has always been male, so I'm not sure what would give you any indication otherwise.

I'm an American. I've lived in the U.S. all my life. That's how I know that the United States is far removed from socialism, and moving further away daily.

I equate people who listen to the rally cry "socialism" to anorexics.

Anorexics believe they are 'fat' when in fact they are starving.

Similarly, the lower middle-class Republicans in red states are starving, not fat, but because they attended the kind of under performing schools generally found in red states for all their lives, they are subject to the relentless propaganda of Fox News.

Or perhaps they're like the children who watched a film on "stranger danger." The school had invested in an extensive campaign to warn children about strangers, and as soon as school was out, a stranger drove up and said, "I've lost my puppy. Can you help me find him?" Off the kids went.

Same way people fall for those who cry "socialism." These candidates present a serious danger to our country, but they start talking about "puppies"--gay marriage, abortion, gun ownership--and off the people run after the puppies, even though the driver may be out to get them.

I don't look at gender icons--sorry. And I didn't look back to see who the OP is.

I do know you're a man, and will address you as one in the future.
 
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I'm an American. I've lived in the U.S. all my life. That's how I know that the United States is far removed from socialism, and moving further away daily.
Further away? Interesting that you say that especially when I see the our Federal Government basically buying companies, running banks that are too big to fail, the expansion of imminent domain laws, the elimination of private property and I do mean elimination.

I own 1.3 acres of land. But for me to build a small shed or whatever on my own land requires me to get permission from the parish, pay a large fee per foot on the shed, and then pay an inspector to come out and inspect the shed. I would have to pay almost half as much in fees to the parish as it takes to build the shed. Nearly anything I do on my own land requires permission...PERMISSION!!! Then you throw in the fact that if the government decides that my piece of land is more valuable to them than to me, they can come in a take it and all I get is the low end of the value of my land. So tell me if the property that I supposedly own is really my own land or am I just paying to use it?

Then you throw in these communist organizations that people call home owners associations and it just make it even worse. Those of you that are part of one of these organizations know what I mean. You get to pay a membership fee so that some ***hole can tell you what you can and cannot do on your piece of property. Luckily in my neighborhood we rejected the establishment of one. Thank God!!!

I equate people who listen to the rally cry "socialism" to anorexics.
Huh?


Similarly, the lower middle-class Republicans in red states are starving, not fat, but because they attended the kind of under performing schools generally found in red states for all their lives, they are subject to the relentless propaganda of Fox News.
Starving??? I'm one of those lower middle-class Republicans in a red state and I didn't realize I was hungry. Thanks for telling me. I guess I should go get something to eat now. Since there was a recent study that came out that in the United States obesity is a problem among those below the poverty line, you comment is just plain silly.

We in the United States don't know what poverty is. Here in this country our poor are not starving in the streets. They are not bloated from malnutrition, or freezing to death in droves, or dieing from lack of healthcare. This just doesn't happen in this country. You drive through the poorest neighborhoods in your local city you will find some crappy looking homes no doubt. But you will also find on many of them satelite dishes as well. These homes if you go in them normally possess hot water and electricity as well. Most have TVs and some form of phone system. This is not poor. Poor is when you are bloated from malnutrition. Poor is when you don't have running water and if you do you don't have a hot water heater to heat the water. If you are wealthy enough maybe you are lucky and have a black tank on your roof to heat the water via the sun during the day. If you are poor you don't have a TV or a satelite dish or a phone or even electricity. This is poverty. I'm not saying that there isn't some that live in extreme poverty here in the USA, but statistically there isn't that many that do, even in today's poor environment that we have caused by the Democrat's attempt to redesign our social economic system.

Or perhaps they're like the children who watched a film on "stranger danger." The school had invested in an extensive campaign to warn children about strangers, and as soon as school was out, a stranger drove up and said, "I've lost my puppy. Can you help me find him?" Off the kids went.
Huh?

Same way people fall for those who cry "socialism." These candidates present a serious danger to our country, but they start talking about "puppies"--gay marriage, abortion, gun ownership--and off the people run after the puppies, even though the driver may be out to get them.
This doesn't even make sense.
 
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I really wish someone would just close this thread or that people would stop posting. I'm getting sick and tired of getting Emails for this.

A) Who are you?
B) Why are people emailing you about this thread?
C) Tell them to get bent.
 
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A) Who are you?
B) Why are people emailing you about this thread?
C) Tell them to get bent.

Lol, I am one of the really early posters in this thread, so I get Emails everytime someone posts on this thread. I've been getting Emails for weeks.
 
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Lol, I am one of the really early posters in this thread, so I get Emails everytime someone posts on this thread. I've been getting Emails for weeks.

Ahhhhh, you have your "alert me when idiots reply to threads I've posted in" thingy turned on. I turn that off. If you login and hit "User CP" you'll see your subscribed threads that have been replied to. Makes the inbox look less like a litterbox :)
 
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