Something in the Bible that is actually supported by evidence

[JustMeSee]

Yes:

Wow! That was quite a rant of quotes.

 

[JustMeSee]

I'm trying sooo hard to have compassion. Why are they here? They must be hearing some kind of calling to come to a Christian website. Then I start thinking maybe they are here working for someone else.

This section of the website is open to Christians and non-Christians. Why are you here debating with the non-Christians?

There is a large area of this forum where non-Christians are not allowed to post.

I am glad to see you in the trenches on this side of the fence. Blessings!

 

[JustMeSee]

I keep asking them that but they never give me an answer. So I just figure they are in a fight with themselves and decide to come here to deal with that.

2 Corinthians 4:4 (KJV)
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Many atheists and Theist Evo's are here to discuss the theory of evolution. Some are here to defend the evidence against the PRATT's regularly shoveled from the Creationist talking heads, such as Dr. Dino and AiG.

Some may be here seeking understanding and a relationship with Christ.

Blessings!

 

[Loudmouth]

Really?
You think they are searching for the truth?
They sure have a funny way of looking for it.

Yeah, that whole "objective evidence" bunk that we keep asking for. Who would ever look for the truth through evidence? How crazy!!!!!

We all know that it is just better to see what someone else has written and accept is as true without any evidence whatsoever. Surely such an approach will never lead to false beliefs.

 

[VirOptimus]

How do you know they didn't?

And speaking of recording, what does C stand for in B.C.?

What does the name of the weekdays stand for?

 

[AV1611VET]

What does the name of the weekdays stand for?

Diabolical mimicry.

 

[sandwiches]

Diabolical mimicry.

So, you'll understand if we take the answer to your little B.C. question with a grain of salt. After all, we wouldn't wanna fall for diabolical mimicry.

 

[Cabal]

Can't have Christmas without Christ, can't have Thursday without Thor

 

[rikerjoe]

Can't have Christmas without Christ, can't have Thursday without Thor

Funny, I've always had "Christmas" without Christ..... It's called Jul or Yule in my neck of the woods....

 

[Jazer]

If science could verify the Bible was true then I'd accept that God existed. It would be acceptable to teach about God because it would be a real thing.

The law of God is very real. You have to follow the Golden Ratio or Gravity and the other natual forces will destory you. If you want to put a roof on your house then you have to get someone that knows how to design a roof. You do not want that roof to fall on you. If you want to build the twin towers then they will have to be able to withstand a commerical jet plane hitting them. If that is not a part of the design, then expect that they will fail and fall.

Do you need to understand God to know the natural laws? It helps. According to Murphys law if it can go wrong it will. So the better you understand how things work, then the less of a chance you will have of something going wrong. Did you ever notice that some of the Greek Building from over 2,000 years ago are still standing? There is a reason why they have stood up to gravity all of this time.

In China thousands of school children were killed in last year’s building collapses during an earthquake. So you can build a school, but that school has to be able to stand up to the forces of nature. You can not be spending all your money trying to repair a building that is slowly falling down on you because you did not understand the natural laws and how to build a school building.

 

[AV1611VET]

Funny, I've always had "Christmas" without Christ..... It's called Jul or Yule in my neck of the woods....

Just out of curiosity, in your neck of the woods, have you ever come across any tree stumps, burnt from the center outward?

 

[Phred]

The law of God is very real. You have to follow the Golden Ratio or Gravity and the other natual forces will destory you. If you want to put a roof on your house then you have to get someone that knows how to design a roof. You do not want that roof to fall on you. If you want to build the twin towers then they will have to be able to withstand a commerical jet plane hitting them. If that is not a part of the design, then expect that they will fail and fall.

Do you need to understand God to know the natural laws? It helps. According to Murphys law if it can go wrong it will. So the better you understand how things work, then the less of a chance you will have of something going wrong. Did you ever notice that some of the Greek Building from over 2,000 years ago are still standing? There is a reason why they have stood up to gravity all of this time.

In China thousands of school children were killed in last year’s building collapses during an earthquake. So you can build a school, but that school has to be able to stand up to the forces of nature. You can not be spending all your money trying to repair a building that is slowly falling down on you because you did not understand the natural laws and how to build a school building.

I'm sorry, I seem to have missed how you connect natural laws with God.

 

[ryeaber]

Do you need to understand God to know the natural laws? It helps. According to Murphys law if it can go wrong it will. So the better you understand how things work, then the less of a chance you will have of something going wrong. Did you ever notice that some of the Greek Building from over 2,000 years ago are still standing? There is a reason why they have stood up to gravity all of this time.

So you're saying that ancient greeks worshipped Jesus? Or that we all need to worship the greek gods to understand natural laws as well as they did?

 

[Phred]

A lot of the Bible is supported by evidence.

and a lot of the Bible is NOT supported by any evidence.

The Bible was once the sole source to mention the Hittites and scoffers laughed at the idea that the Hittites existed.

Really? Laughed? I think more like wondered if indeed they did.

Now we know they do through a tun of archaeology.

Ton. Why is it all the people who try to support the Bible can't spell for crap? Is it because basically they're ignorant? Is that why they can't get the concept of how a James Bond novel is set in London and London is real that doesn't mean James Bond is real. Just because the Red Sea is real doesn't mean that Moses parted it.

It was also the Old Testament which led archaeologists to unearth places like Ninevah and so forth. So a lot of archaeology backs up the Bible.

Why shouldn't it? It was written in the time when those places were fully active towns and villages. You obviously still don't get the reality that a place being real doesn't mean the things that the Bible claims happened IN it are real.

This thread was clearly made by someone very ignorant. They probably spend their time on silly atheist websites which put the Bible down.

Once again a so-called "Christian" completely missing the point.

 

[ryeaber]

Everything in the Bible is supported by secular history/archaeology. You only have to type in ''Biblical artefacts'' on Google to see a list of well over a thousand items which perfectly match as described in the Bible. The British Museum is filled with hundreds of them. Archaeology is clearly not your area and as i said - this thread just reveals your ignorance.

ummm...everything in the museums (British Museum included) are secular and not what's being disputed. That's like saying since owls exist in zoos, and London is a place, then everything in Harry Potter is true also. This has been mentioned previously in this thread.

In order to prove that "Everything in the Bible is supported by secular history/archaeology", you would need to show evidence of the actual supernatural claims, not the secular or natural items. To the best of my knowledge, no evidence of this nature exists.

Granted, I've never been to the British Museum and you're the expert, so I'm sure you'll be able to provide just one example of supernatural biblical archaeological evidence (out of the hundreds you mentioned) from their extensive collection.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Everything in the Bible is supported by secular history/archaeology. You only have to type in ''Biblical artefacts'' on Google to see a list of well over a thousand items which perfectly match as described in the Bible. The British Museum is filled with hundreds of them. Archaeology is clearly not your area and as i said - this thread just reveals your ignorance.

The British Museum contains no artefacts that substantiate Eden (unless there is a botanical section with the Forbidden Tree?), the Flood (unless the Ark has been relocated from Mt. Ararat to London?), Balaam's talking donkey (unless its bones, complete with primate trachea, are stored there?), etc. The Bible, like all works of myth, is undoubtedly rooted in real events, but they are exaggerated to include supernatural elements. As such, we should expect to find only evidence for the mundane, but not the supernatural (hence why we find evidence for Pharaoh's and Egypt, but not for the splitting of the Red Sea). Lo and behold, that's exactly what we find.

 

[Greg1234]

So you're saying that ancient greeks worshipped Jesus?

The Christ is worshiped.

Or that we all need to worship the greek gods to understand natural laws as well as they did?

Worshiping the first cause under every appellation given is redundancy.

 

[ryeaber]

The Christ is worshiped.



Worshiping the first cause under every appellation given is redundancy.

Oh, ok. Thanks for clearing that up. His post makes much more sense now.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

The Christ is worshiped.



Worshiping the first cause under every appellation given is redundancy.

So you don't worship Jesus, you worship the ancient Greek pantheon. Gotcha

 

[Phred]

The British Museum holds the 'Adam and Eve' cylinder seal. Although Assyriologists no long believe the seal depicts Adam and Eve and the snake, they note the parallels between Genesis and Sumerian myth.

Adam is also equated with the Sumerian Adapa, the first sage of Eridu (Fischer, Historical Genesis, 1996, 308). The "p" in Adapa could change to "m" in Hebrew giving the name Adama.



There is geologic evidence of local-flooding within Mesopotamia which fits with the Biblical timeframe. The archaeologist Leonard Woolley claimed to have found the flood strata of the Genesis flood at Ur.



Which is what i said. The Bible is history. The author of the OP however has claimed virtually nothing in the Bible can be supported by evidence, which is completely wrong.

So you can prove with evidence that snakes talk, donkeys talk, Adam was a real person, Jesus actually existed and walked on water then rose from the dead...

Please, continue o' not ignorant one.