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does everyone like this idea...it would mean topics that are not common to both groups need to be made in the respective forums or moved there and common ideas would be shared in the main forum

Where'd every body go:confused:.

It may be that they lost interest:cry::cry:... or the have gone out to implement this all on their own:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:.
 
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Desert Rose you're stuck with us. You understand us MJs with your little cross icon better than some here with the scroll or menorah. And I can safely say that also about Chava and Yonah. Our words define us better than our icons.
LOL, That may be so. As for my fellow Jew Yonah-he has been banned from the CF and has no desire to come back.
 
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LOL, That may be so. As for my fellow Jew Yonah-he has been banned from the CF and has no desire to come back.
nice.... I would like to see just ONE anti-paul anti-apostle poster be even corrected let alone banned for their antics in here. This makes me sick. Make sure to know, I had nothing to do with this. My focus is the anti-Christian one law false doctrine. This issue has and continues to do vastly more damage here than a Jewish poster defending Christian tenets, and clarifying Rabbinical law.

I can not think of how he got banned, short of one persons will........
 
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Where'd every body go:confused:.

It may be that they lost interest:cry::cry:... or the have gone out to implement this all on their own:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:.
Does this post mean that we can expect and enforce this within our forum? That if we find a thread in the open forum discussing sub-forum subjects we are to report the thread to have it moved to it's proper forum?

AND, will you start to enforce the reports of anti-paul/anti-apostle (anti-christian) posters? Because i'm really tired of the garbage that is flooding the main forum. You would NEVER guess this is a 'Christian' forum with all the anti-christian teaching and preaching going on in here.

Being Messianic Jew is not the polar opposite of being a Christian. There is vastly more in common that opposing. I can not wait to focus on our commonalities (the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that leads us all to works of love and kindness) than our differences. The fact others see this place as a battleground to enforce their version of truth is very telling.
 
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nice.... I would like to see just ONE anti-paul anti-apostle poster be even corrected let alone banned for their antics in here. This makes me sick. Make sure to know, I had nothing to do with this. My focus is the anti-Christian one law false doctrine. This issue has and continues to do vastly more damage here than a Jewish poster defending Christian tenets, and clarifying Rabbinical law.

I can not think of how he got banned, short of one persons will........

That's right. Yonah consistently defended doctrine that was completely in line with the forum guidelines, while others deemed be Messianic teach against them.
 
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Originally Posted by jcpro LOL, That may be so. As for my fellow Jew Yonah-he has been banned from the CF and has no desire to come back.
Yep. The brain drain continues.
What?! :confused: :sorry:
He was more knowledgable with the greek and hebrew than even I was......
 
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does everyone like this idea...it would mean topics that are not common to both groups need to be made in the respective forums or moved there and common ideas would be shared in the main forum

Does this post mean that we can expect and enforce this within our forum? That if we find a thread in the open forum discussing sub-forum subjects we are to report the thread to have it moved to it's proper forum?

I think that we could start practising this in the spirit of the thread. I do, however, think that it needs to be clearly stated in the SoPs or in a sticky dealing with this one issue; not only for the members of this forum, but for our Staff's understanding as well.

AND, will you start to enforce the reports of anti-paul/anti-apostle (anti-christian) posters? Because i'm really tired of the garbage that is flooding the main forum. You would NEVER guess this is a 'Christian' forum with all the anti-christian teaching and preaching going on in here.

I was in our Reports Forum earlier, and I can assure everyone here that it is already happening:):thumbsup:. Be mindful that a report may take some time to review, reach consensus, and be actioned; Staff's work-load varies from heavy to insane at times... any one care to help out???:)

Being Messianic Jew is not the polar opposite of being a Christian. There is vastly more in common that opposing. I can not wait to focus on our commonalities (the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that leads us all to works of love and kindness) than our differences. The fact others see this place as a battleground to enforce their version of truth is very telling.

This will not happen overnight, but through fellowship, those who are open to it will grow in understanding. Were it not for Tish on staff, I'm afraid I may well have remained outside and in the dark. I confess that up until about a year ago, while I did not see this as a battleground, I did view it as a no-mans-land; please forgive me for my ignorance:blush::sorry:.
 
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This will not happen overnight, but through fellowship, those who are open to it will grow in understanding. Were it not for Tish on staff, I'm afraid I may well have remained outside and in the dark. I confess that up until about a year ago, while I did not see this as a battleground, I did view it as a no-mans-land; please forgive me for my ignorance:blush::sorry:.

No worries Mark. To many of us, the anti-Paul/Christian/Church stuff is just about the worst thing anyone can say. We gave up a lot to become followers of Jesus, and for someone who is supposed to love and support the Jewish people to come up and say that Paul was a liar, the Church is evil or corrupt beyond the bounds of grace or that the NT is uninspired or less inspired than the scriptures of our old religion is just a kick in a guts. So, to us, this does become a battlefield. Sad, but true.
 
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LOL, That may be so. As for my fellow Jew Yonah-he has been banned from the CF and has no desire to come back.

I am terribly sorry to read this. yonah was someone you could turn to when you wanted to know what Scripture said and intended according to the original languages.

I hope neither you nor any other Jew leaves this forum. I need your points of view, especially if you are Orthodox or Ultra-Orthodox...
 
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Were it not for Tish on staff, I'm afraid I may well have remained outside and in the dark. I confess that up until about a year ago, while I did not see this as a battleground, I did view it as a no-mans-land; please forgive me for my ignorance:blush::sorry:.

I think for many people, the concept of "no-mans-land" is more than accurate.....for within a "no-mans-land" is where there is the case that lawlessness may occur. Much as it was in accounts from the Old West/Western tales when there were towns where there was no judges or sherrifs around and people did as they pleased since no one really had it under a jurisdiction.

Some adapt to it over time and simply get used to it, learning to live with it and fight back...whereas others simply don't go get involved altogether.

For many, what was the case was that whoever was in the majority determined what was correct--even if those deemed as the "majority" were really a minority group within the MJ Movement and simply were the loudest. I've often seen it where reports were made on others who disagreed with others and those same people would have views not even in line with Mainstream Messianic Jewish organizations....
 
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No worries Mark. To many of us, the anti-Paul/Christian/Church stuff is just about the worst thing anyone can say. We gave up a lot to become followers of Jesus, and for someone who is supposed to love and support the Jewish people to come up and say that Paul was a liar, the Church is evil or corrupt beyond the bounds of grace or that the NT is uninspired or less inspired than the scriptures of our old religion is just a kick in a guts. So, to us, this does become a battlefield. Sad, but true.

You know that this kind of stuff is why we have a report button;). I think that for the most part, many of the members in this forum have been reluctant to use it. From any other forum, posts like that would be reported multiple times.

Staff has also taken the approach that forums can police themselves, as there are way more forums and sub-forums than there are staff. The report button is not a weapon, but a tool; please, everyone, feel free to use it (with discretion of course:D:D^_^^_^:D:D).
 
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Im sorry Yonah was banned too, if he chooses to come back please feel free to ask him what happened if you wish but I can assure you it wasnt for defending anyone here....that is an honorable thing

Thats all I can say though....you need to ask him ok...
 
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Being back here we see allot more of the whole picture and I wish I could convey to you all the simple things to avoid in discussion that are thorns in the flesh of fellowship here and show you all how much you all have in common and how many of the things conveyed are not really true of the other group you have contention with- they are almost always only misnomers (myths or misunderstandings about perceived beliefs)

Maybe we should start a series on MJ or HC misnomers:thumbsup:
 
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AND, will you start to enforce the reports of anti-paul/anti-apostle (anti-christian) posters? Because i'm really tired of the garbage that is flooding the main forum. You would NEVER guess this is a 'Christian' forum with all the anti-christian teaching and preaching going on in here.
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nice.... I would like to see just ONE anti-paul anti-apostle poster be even corrected let alone banned for their antics in here. This makes me sick. My focus is the anti-Christian one law false doctrine. This issue has and continues to do vastly more damage here than a Jewish poster defending Christian tenets, and clarifying Rabbinical law.
I agree.... I am often surprised at how much anti-Paul/Christian posting
I see here...
I can not think of how he got banned, short of one persons will........
That's all it takes.
 
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I am terribly sorry to read this. yonah was someone you could turn to when you wanted to know what Scripture said and intended according to the original languages.
You can always ask him questions at his forum, he loves discussing scripture and language.
 
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What?!? yonah has been banned? I could say many words here for the people that banned him, but are better not said....


As for anti-Paul reports, I will never accept him and if this forum starts forcing him onto people than I will be no part of it. Likewise, I'm not a Christian and won't be.
 
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As for anti-Paul reports, I will never accept him and if this forum starts forcing him onto people than I will be no part of it. Likewise, I'm not a Christian and won't be.
If this forum starts...?? Enforcing would be the proper word to focus on here. This forum has ALWAYS been of the Christian faith, residing within a Christian group. It's statements of faith and common rules have been 'Christian' since it's inception.

Yet, you barge in the doors of a faith group that you fully admit to being NOT a member of in any way, and threaten us with your removal if we start being who we have been from the beginning?

chutzpah!!

Welcome to my little report button......(tony montano)
 
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