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I was watching three little turtles and a question came out.
Who taught them to breathe air?
Do they really know that if they didn't breathe air they will die?


and,
More questions!!

{Or He Who created the heavens and the earth, and sends down for you water from the heaven, whereby We cause to grow splendid gardens whose trees you could never cause to grow? Is there a god with God (Allah)? Nay, but they are a people who ascribe equals [to Him].}


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{Or He Who made the earth an abode [of stability] and made rivers [to flow] throughout it and set firm mountains for it, and set an isthmus between the two seas. Is there a god with God (Allah)? Nay, but most of them have no knowledge.}


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{Or He Who answers the desperate one when he calls to Him and Who removes [his] distress and makes you successors in the earth. Is there a god with God (Allah)? Little do you remember?}


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{Or He Who guides you in the darkness of the land and the sea and Who sends forth the winds as harbingers of His mercy. Is there a god with God (Allah)? Exalted be God [high] above what they associate [with Him].}


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{Or He Who originates creation then brings it back again, and Who provides for you from the heaven and [from] the earth. Is there a god with God (Allah)? Say: 'Produce your proof if you are truthful'.}


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{Say: 'No one in the heavens or the earth knows the Unseen, except God (Allah), and they are not aware when they will be resurrected.} Quran 27:60-65


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Who taught them to breathe air?
Breathing is not an acquired skill, but controlled by specialized centres in the brainstem, which automatically regulate the rate and depth of breathing depending on the body’s needs at any time. When carbon dioxide levels increase in the blood, it reacts with the water in blood, producing carbonic acid. Lactic acid produced by anaerobic respiration during exercise also lowers pH. The drop in the blood's pH stimulates chemoreceptors in the carotid and aortic bodies in the blood system to send nerve impulses to the respiration centre in the medulla oblongata and pons in the brain. These, in turn send nerve impulses through the phrenic and thoracic nerves to the diaphragm.

Of course, human beings can learn to consciously control their breathing - within limits - but that's got nothing to do with reptiles "learning" to breathe.
 
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I was watching three little turtles and a question came out.

Who taught them to breathe air?
Do they really know that if they didn't breathe air they will die?


and,
More questions!!

{Or He Who created the heavens and the earth, and sends down for you water from the heaven, whereby We cause to grow splendid gardens whose trees you could never cause to grow? Is there a god with God (Allah)? Nay, but they are a people who ascribe equals [to Him].}


71619-11-first-taste-of-rain.jpg

{Or He Who made the earth an abode [of stability] and made rivers [to flow] throughout it and set firm mountains for it, and set an isthmus between the two seas. Is there a god with God (Allah)? Nay, but most of them have no knowledge.}


1244192975VCgAp7k.jpg

{Or He Who answers the desperate one when he calls to Him and Who removes [his] distress and makes you successors in the earth. Is there a god with God (Allah)? Little do you remember?}


ship_storm.jpg


2009-01-22T180256Z_01_ACAE50L1E5400_RTROPTP_2_OEGIN-CHINA-CATASTROPHS-MM6.JPG

{Or He Who guides you in the darkness of the land and the sea and Who sends forth the winds as harbingers of His mercy. Is there a god with God (Allah)? Exalted be God [high] above what they associate [with Him].}


darkness.jpg


{Or He Who originates creation then brings it back again, and Who provides for you from the heaven and [from] the earth. Is there a god with God (Allah)? Say: 'Produce your proof if you are truthful'.}


grave.jpg

{Say: 'No one in the heavens or the earth knows the Unseen, except God (Allah), and they are not aware when they will be resurrected.} Quran 27:60-65



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Nice set of pictures, What is the last one about?
 
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Sister of faith, I was not being rude, obviously it has something to do with burial, but was wondering, Why so long?

That was the grave of Prophet Imran.
So long...obviously because he was a long person!
It is in my country, come and visit it :)
 
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That was the grave of Prophet Imran.
So long...obviously because he was a long person!
It is in my country, come and visit it :)
Or maybe it represents a long list of things connected wih him.
About the turtles, I see what you mean, I would have answered, instinct, pure animal instict, about the same as us humans, but the difference is we humans are not meant to live our lives as animals, you know, law of the jungle. So I think you had a nice thought in your thread, imo,
 
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About the turtles, I see what you mean, I would have answered, instinct, pure animal instict, about the same as us humans, but the difference is we humans are not meant to live our lives as animals, you know, law of the jungle.
You seem to know very little about (other) animals and their social behaviour. You might actually be surprised.
 
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Asking how an organism manages to sustain itself without being taught beforehand is actually quite commendable - provided that it's not intended as a mere rhethorical question, but actually born of a desire to understand the natural world a little better.

Sadly, you can spot the "GODDIDIT!" long before it's even voiced, and nothing stifles curiosity more than the (mistaken) belief that you already have the answer, and that answer essentially boils down to "it's supernatural".
 
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You seem to know very little about (other) animals and their social behaviour. You might actually be surprised.
There is tons of things I know little about, But seeing is sometimes better evidence than reading about something.
To hear heart tearing screaming from outside, on looking, to see two magpies hacking away at a living young hare, If one is intrested in the Why,s and How,s, that,s okay for that person, I see it another way.
 
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There is tons of things I know little about, But seeing is sometimes better evidence than reading about something.
To hear heart tearing screaming from outside, on looking, to see two magpies hacking away at a living young hare, If one is intrested in the Why,s and How,s, that,s okay for that person, I see it another way.

Interspecies compassion isn't exactly mankind's strong suit, either.

Oh, sure, we adore fluffy little mammals with all those child-like characteristics: they kindle our instinct to nurture and protect.
But no other species has managed to turn its potential prey into a mass-produced object that's basically treated as if it was inanimate.
The horrors of factory farming are well-known, and yet our supermarkets are filled to the brim with meat products that have been produced under those conditions - and most members of our "superior" species wouldn't waste a thought on that.

Now, I'm not one of those crazy vegans who insist that Man is a herbivore by nature. That's nonsense. I think it's perfectly okay to kill other animals for food - but if you do, at least treat them with the respect owed to another living being.
 
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Interspecies compassion isn't exactly mankind's strong suit, either.

Oh, sure, we adore fluffy little mammals with all those child-like characteristics: they kindle our instinct to nurture and protect.
But no other species has managed to turn its potential prey into a mass-produced object that's basically treated as if it was inanimate.
The horrors of factory farming are well-known, and yet our supermarkets are filled to the brim with meat products that have been produced under those conditions - and most members of our "superior" species wouldn't waste a thought on that.

Now, I'm not one of those crazy vegans who insist that Man is a herbivore by nature. That's nonsense. I think it's perfectly okay to kill other animals for food - but if you do, at least treat them with the respect owed to another living being.
I eat meat too, but I am careful as to the quality, though it is not so easy always, I bought by mistake once some of that "pumped up" beef, I had to throw it away, and I agree, we are to treat animals kindly.
Looks like humans can be more cruel in behaviour than animals.
 
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Ok, who taught you how to suck milk from your momy or those big bottles! :D

Fun aside, you do realize that you are asking complex questions, right? IOW, you do realize that your question assume that somebody and that somebody taught and that somebody taught these things?

I think I can just reject some of those assumptions without any further ado.
 
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Or maybe it represents a long list of things connected wih him.
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No it is not like that. Ask the Jews!!!
Old people lived longer and they were taller see

This is the grave of Prophet Dawood or David




Moses (PBUH)


Saleh (PBUH)​

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and others,

The Quran Says: {Their Prophet said unto them: Lo! Allah hath raised up Saul to be a king for you. They said: How can he have kingdom over us when we are more deserving of the kingdom than he is, since he hath not been given wealth enough ? He said: Lo! Allah hath chosen him above you, and hath increased him abundantly in wisdomand stature. Allah bestoweth His Sovereignty on whom He will. Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.} [2:247]
Also in another verse: {Marvel ye that there should come unto you a Reminder from your Lord by means of a man among you, that he may warn you ? Remember how He made you viceroys after Noah’s folk, and gave you growth of stature. Remember (all) the bounties of your Lord, that haply ye may be successful.}[7:69]​

So, it seems to be a new information for you!​
 
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Fun aside, you do realize that you are asking complex questions, right? IOW, you do realize that your question assume that somebody and that somebody taught and that somebody taught these things?

I think I can just reject some of those assumptions without any further ado.

This is because you don't believe in God. So you have very less meaning of life. :cool:
 
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