Sacred Ink: Tattoo's within Torah & Writing Messages of the Savior/Shema on Skin

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Concerning why I wrote this, the following scripture will provide the focus:
Leviticus 19:28

“‘Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD.
Some of what follows is a continuation of what was discussed before when it comes to modesty--as it concerns examining other cultures that did markings upon their bodies due to seeing it as a sign of beauty....and as seen in the article entitled "Modesty for a Messianic: What Should it Look Like for Men/Women - ChristianForums".



Working in Youth Ministry, the issue of Tattoo markings always seems to be a hot-button issue...and to be honest, its a sensitive issue for myself as well. Many of the close friends/family I've interacted with have all had tattoo's...and whereas some of them I didn't think looked all that great, many of them were actually QUITE stunning/beautiful.



This is a Hebrew phrase that means "belonging to God" (literally, "to Yahweh") taken from the Tanak (Isaiah 44:5).



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Translation of the verse for this one is "They shall be hurled to the power of the sword; they shall be a portion for foxes."...From Psalm 63:11.Many others besides that...



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However, I've also seen it where some have gotten tattoos that I thought were clearly demonic in nature---and needed to be removed due to what it symbolized for the person. It is for this reason that I've been very grateful for things such as Tattoo removal industries/organizations working with people who want to change themselves, such as organizations like "Homeboy Ministries" in helping others who are ex-gang members remove their tattoos since it reminds them of their pasts.

Nevertheless, I have seen it where others think about the dangers of tattoos and assume that everything with tattoos must be an issue. And the scripture that often comes up is what's seen in Leviticus 19:28. Others have been brought up by others in connection to that ( Deuteronomy 23:1-3 , Leviticus 21:4-6, 1 Kings 18:27-29, ). Those who disagree with others doing so may've been quick to say that they were "legalistic"--but in many ways, I agree with those going back/discussing the Torah in what it advocated. There are many dangerous practices that can occur when it comes to the world of Tattoo, from potential diseases gettng transferred to spiritual issues-----and some that've spoken well on the subject are people like William Sudduth of the book "What's Behind the Ink?" ( as seen here):







However, as much as I may support those going back to the OT Law, I disagree with some of the ways they try to apply it...fo the same people who often go back/discuss the law on Tattoos often will not do the rest of it...such as discussing how Leviticus 19:26-28 says cutting of the hair/beard should NEVER occur. Most have shaved their beards today, including many within the Messianic Jewish movement, and understand that what the OT was saying was in regards to what the cultures surrounding the Hebrews were advocatng---and the scriptures seem to show times where the beard command wasn't always practiced in a heavy handed dynamic.


In example, before Joseph stood in Pharaoh’s presence, he shaved (Gen. 41:14), which was culturally very significant. A beard was highly regarded in Israel (cf. 2 Sam. 10:4-5), but in Egypt it was not. Joseph revealed wisdom by adapting to the culture of his day, yet in a way that did not violate any biblical principle. A beard was really a matter of culture, not of creed. By taking the Egyptian’s language ( Genesis 42:22-24 ), their dress, and even an Egyptian wife (cf. Gen. 41:45), Joseph identified himself with the Egyptians in a way that made his ministry more acceptable, yet without any sacrifice of biblical principle.


The same principle is something that may possibly apply to Tattoo's...and I think that its something that needs to be considered when it comes to the Gospel. My own fellowship often dealt with the issue. For it is the case that orthodox Jews believe that the Torah forbids tattoos, and would be turned off by the tattoo in many instances....thus keeping out those of Jewish background who may actually be into tattoos/not saved. In our fellowship, there was once a person who came into the fellowship/was covered in Tattoos and they were very passionate about serving Yeshua...and where others may've been tempted to stare/kick them out, thankfully, others felt that people are people....and needing to be loved, in light of scripture.

With scripture, something else that was very striking to consider is what Isaiah 44:5 says when it comes to tattoos:




Isa 44:5
One will say, I am the Lord's; and another will call himself by the name of Jacob; and another will write [even brand or tattoo] upon his hand, I am the Lord's, and surname himself by the [honorable] name of Israel.




Whereas I agree with others saying that the Torah speaks against Tattoos, I don't think that the Torah itself supports the view that all Tattoos in every context must somehow be wrong....for it seems that there is a specific context that tattoo's occured. Whereas others for Tattoo's may be quick to say the OT is to be dismissed simply because "we're in an era of Grace according to Paul in Galatians/other books!!!", I think its better to see how the OT and NT renconcile...and understand the OT In context. One doesn't have to take a view of "The Law is BAD!!!" in order to appreciate the Law from a New Testament perspective on what the Torah is in Christ/Grace & Truth being what Jesus brought (John 1).

The ministry of "Sacred Ink" was one organization that I thought had many solid/beautiful points to consider on the issue.....as seen here .-and as mentioned here / here and here as well--and for another one to consider, one can investigate the ministry entitled Are Hebrew Tattoos Kosher?. In 2007, when a church was giving out tattoos in their service, Hillel covered the issues for Jewish student life, presenting a mixed take on it. For more, if interested, there is a resource one can go online/investgate under the name of"Jews & Tattoos: What's a Rabbi to Do? - Hillel"( ).

Moreover, there is a documentary discussing the issue in-depth on what other Jews feel on the matter entitled "Tattoo Jew". The film "Tattoo Jew" is documentary about Jewish people getting Jewish-themed tattoos as expressions of individuality and pride..and showing people who feel more connected to their roots by displaying a modern Jewish identity permanently etched in ink upon their skin.This project explores the intersection between traditional Jewish culture and the current popularity of tattoos.

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At one point, there's a segment on how one Jewish woman shared her perspective on Tattoos...for in her mind, its not just about what the language means--but its also about the physical existence of the language on her body. It is amazing to considering how many within the Jewish community.......and outside of that, something that came to mind is that even Jesus had WRITTEN Language on Himself---as seen in "iRevelation 19:16 " when it says, "He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. "

If anyone has any thoughts on the issue, I'd love to hear.
 
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There are 3 basic reasons why Leviticus 19:28 says what is says.
1.Respect. Human body is G-d's creation and we should respect it.
2. To prevent idol worship as some nations at the time tatooed name of their gods on themselves.
3. Competition. The only legal form of mutiliation was of course circumcision. Being a very special sign of relationship with our G-d.

However, the Torah does not elaborate on the point of this prohibition, so for the sake of piety this law must apply to all decorative tatoos.
 
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I feel very very strongly on the issue of tattoos for Jews. For Christians and others, I don't really think it matters. So long as it's tasteful. If you tattoo your face, well, don't expect to be treated like everyone else. For the MJ, it does seem it would make sense to avoid them. I think?
 
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I feel very very strongly on the issue of tattoos for Jews. For Christians and others, I don't really think it matters. So long as it's tasteful. If you tattoo your face, well, don't expect to be treated like everyone else. For the MJ, it does seem it would make sense to avoid them. I think?

Tattoos are not a problem for me...I hate them!!!
 
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What's the difference between HaShem wanting His people to be set apart from the practices of pagans then and now? Where does it say in scripture that He changed His mind just because it's the popular thing to do now? Marking one's body is marking one's body.
 
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Tattoos are not a problem for me...I hate them!!!
Some of them can be quite beautiful...but people overdo them. Too many, too big, too flashy. I would never have one myself as it is against Torah law,
but if others want them...go for it.
However, I suspect many people regret them later on.
 
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I've seen some that are gorgeous but no matter how pretty, I can't imagine committing to something like that on your body.

I agree...especially when the people get older and the tattoos fade and
things start to sag and wrinkle....
 
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I was going to mention what Chava just brought up - what may have been stunning on a 20 year old can look mighty yucky on a 50 or 60 year old; even sooner if the 20 year old loses or gains a great deal of weight.....

I'm with Duncan, I personally hate them and think they're rather silly.

As for someone who has tattoos, I don't hold it against them as if they've committed some kind of horrible sin. If a person is a believer they should not be getting tattoos, but if they have them, oh well. That's between them and their Maker only.

As for those in other countries that have tattooing as a part of their culture. If they are not believers, what's the worry all about. If they are believers, again, I guess that would have to be between them and their Maker, we should not have any say in the matter
 
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I was going to mention what Chava just brought up - what may have been stunning on a 20 year old can look mighty yucky on a 50 or 60 year old; even sooner if the 20 year old loses or gains a great deal of weight.
Not to mention the actual style of the tattoo. I passed a lady today that
had a 8" tattoo around her neck, like a large choker necklace. Had the
devil as the main feature and some demons around it. She may think
that is cool as a 20 year old, but when she is much older, she's going
to regret it..particularly if she gets religious in later years...
 
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Not to mention the actual style of the tattoo. I passed a lady today that
had a 8" tattoo around her neck, like a large choker necklace. Had the
devil as the main feature and some demons around it. She may think
that is cool as a 20 year old, but when she is much older, she's going
to regret it..particularly if she gets religious in later years...

Removals have gotten better over the last decade or so. Used to be very scarring to attempt to remove tattoos.
It's just too bad so many young people get them without thinking about the future.
 
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What's the difference between HaShem wanting His people to be set apart from the practices of pagans then and now? Where does it say in scripture that He changed His mind just because it's the popular thing to do now? Marking one's body is marking one's body
Who said anything about the difference between God's people being something that was only for one era? For the scriptures are clear that we're to not love the "world" or anything in it...as seen in 1 John 2:14-16 /1 John 2 --and Hebrews 12:13-15 and 1 Peter 1:15-17 1 Peter 2:8-10/1 Peter 2:4-6 makes clear we're to be kings/priests, a HOLY people, which is a concept built upon what the Lord told the Hebrews in Exodus 19-20 when it came to his desire to have a set apart people.

Again, distinction was never what was in question...

Rather, the focus is upon what it means to be distinct...and this is a big deal since many have said "we're called to be seperate!!!" and yet their categories had absolutely nothing to do with the seperation God intended...like saying "Female disciples of Yeshua can't wear pants/jeans!!!!" or "Its worldly for believers to watch any R-rated movies" or "Believers can't do dances in church because the world does them too!!!"....

Concerning what I stated, what was said was that the context of what was happening behind that seperation is what matters and seeing what the Lord said in the New Covenant---and in regards to markings, scripture is clear that it was for purposes of the dead/worshipping things spiritually rather than the act of markings by themselves. It doesn't matter whether something's popular or not...but rather, it matters what the scripture says on it. If it were the case that it WASN'T popular for others to make markings over their bodies as it is today, it'd still be an issue of examining what scripture says.

One may think that disagreeing with the interpretations of others on Leviticus 19:28 means that one doesn't value the Law He gave which was about helping others remain seperate/distinct from the world...but that would not be accurate stance, IMHO. For others supportative of believers wearing tattoos are not saying that what occurred in the Torah was not valid nor something that the Lord said he didn't want done.

What is being said is that understanding the reasons behind a command make a significant difference in knowing how to apply it. When it comes to commands given in the Torah, understanding why they were given is a big deal if one is to be faithful in honoring the Lord in what He advocated. I'm not for the mindset that the Torah commands are not important, nor am I for the mindset that all aspects of the OT law are what must be followed in the same way as before since the Lord Yeshua has done many new things with that. I think what often happens is that people don't understand that that the terminology of "Law" has always had a myriad of meanings rather than one set....for there was distinction/categories. There are other Messianic Jewish ministries that've discussed the issue in depth far better..as the ministry of FFOZ actually did a good review on the issue, as seen here..and Ariel Ministries also had an excellent one as well.




Within the Levitical law, there are many sub-categories of laws are many which are highly puzzling..and there's nothing wrong in discussing what they may mean for our times today when it comes to seeing the context behind them/knowing how it applies..and thankfully, there are many differing places that've done a wonderful job in seeking to tackle the subject of the Torah...and how at times there can be commands in certain parts that don't make sense...and its healthy to discuss it. For example, why is it that some seemingly minor offenses are considered capital crimes inLeviticus 20? Why, for example, should one be executed for having sexual relations with his wife, during her monthly period? Today, this is viewed as simply a matter of personal preference and nothing more. Having sex with another man’s wife we can more readily accept as a capital crime, but having sex with one’s own wife at a certain time of the month seems excessively severe. The offenses listed here are those which, at least to the 20th century reader, seem off-beat and unusual. We would have expected this list of capital crimes to be quite different. Murder, kidnapping, and rape are the kinds of sins which nearly every government condemns and severely punishes. But the sins listed in chapter 20 are not of this type. Discussion on that is something which should not be an issue...


The same goes for other texts in Levitical Law which often seem to be highly perplexing..such as Deuteronomy 22:9 orLeviticus 19:19 when it comes to being told not to mix food like animal/seed. There was actually an in-depth discussion elsewhere on the subject of food, as it concerns others wondering about what mixed foods are all about--and what to do in a world where there's alot of mixture and how many within Judaism have noted there were commands given only suitable for Israelites in the Land and due to what the culture around them did.

Again, honoring the Torah that the Lord commanded also demands that one be willing to discuss it fully/examine what was going on so that one may understand it.....for not having proper understanding on the dynamics behind a command no more honors the Lord than a person who says they want to honor the Laws of their government---and yet don't take the time to study them, ask questions and gain clarity so that they don't end up trying to apply the laws in ways that end up doing more damage than good.

With that said, when it comes to Leviticus 19:28 and seeing the context it occurred, it seems that this is a [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]passage that'[/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]is talking about tattoos which are part of a religious ritual. For a more specific example, [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]the book of 1 Kings comes to mind when the prophet Elijah confronted the priests of Baal:[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]1 Kings 18:26-28[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Then they took the ox which was given them and they prepared it and called on the name of Baal from morning until noon saying, “O Baal, answer us.” But there was no voice and no one answered. And they leaped about the altar which they made. And it came about at noon, that Elijah mocked them and said, “Call out with a loud voice, for he is a god; either he is occupied or gone aside, or is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and needs to be awakened.” So they cried with a loud voice and cut themselves according to their custom with swords and lances until the blood gushed out on them. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]It has always been the case that since ancient times men and women have cut and painted themselves as a part of their religious worship. It was and is still common in some countries for younger men to mutilate and tattoo their bodies. History tells us that the ancient Egyptians, Thracians, Greeks, Gauls, Germans, Britons, Romans, Africans, American Indians, and many others used tattoos. ..and its plain that God prohibits any activities associated with religious worship of other so called gods. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]The only passage in the Old Testament about tattoos is in Leviticus 19...and the Hebrew word used for "tattoo" in Leviticus 19:28 means "incision" or "imprint."....specifically, the idea of putting a mark into the skin. The mark has color..and as the text makes clear it was about doing so for the dead that the Lord was concerned with.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]If someone wants to object and say this passage rejects all cutting of the flesh and any mark of the flesh, then one must ask, "Does God prohibit any cutting of the body for medical reasons such as operations?" The answer is no since God wanted the Jewish boys to have an operation...and we call it circumcision of males. So does God allow us to cut our bodies? The answer is "yes," but only for a good reason and specific purpose. Even with circumcision, as that markings on the flesh was something the Lord was never against, [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]it was something that could get out of hand when people focused more so on it rather than the work of the Lord:[/FONT]
Galatians 6:13
Not even those who are circumcised keep the law, yet they want you to be circumcised that they may boast about your circumcision in the flesh.
Galatians 6:9-23

Not Circumcision but the New Creation

11 See what large letters I use as I write to you with my own hand!
12 Those who want to impress people by means of the flesh are trying to compel you to be circumcised. The only reason they do this is to avoid being persecuted for the cross of Christ. 13 Not even those who are circumcised keep the law, yet they want you to be circumcised that they may boast about your circumcision in the flesh. 14 May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which[a] the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world. 15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. 16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to[b] the Israel of God.

. We need to remember that we are the temple of God. It is not to be abused.
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Does God also reject all imprints into the flesh?...Again, IMHO, the answer is no. But are tattoos safe? Are there any concerns? Obviously, there are health risks. Certain types of body modifications carry serious medical risks. Tattooing with unsanitary needles has been associated with the spread of hepatitis and HIV. Skin disorders sometimes result from the dyes used. Piercing can take months to heal and can hurt for much of that time. They can also produce blood poisoning, hemorrhaging, blood clots, nerve damage, and serious infections. Additionally, some procedures are not easily reversed. For example, depending on the size and the color, a tattoo can take several expensive and painful laser sessions to remove. Piercing may leave lifelong scars.
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[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Whether or not an individual decides to accept these risks is a personal decision. And when doing so for any other purpose other than honoring the Lord, one will always have issue.[/FONT]
 
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I was going to mention what Chava just brought up - what may have been stunning on a 20 year old can look mighty yucky on a 50 or 60 year old; even sooner if the 20 year old loses or gains a great deal of weight.
Removals have gotten better over the last decade or so. Used to be very scarring to attempt to remove tattoos.
It's just too bad so many young people get them without thinking about the future.

Some of that is the reason behind why many getting tattoos investigate those who are already older/in certain shapes...and see what it must look like upon them before they actually chose to do so. There are some who are older and yet get tattoos, as I discovered in regards to one who was a Holocaust victim---and yet chose to get a tattoo in her old age. For more, one can go here. The the name of the girl is is Mimi Rosenthal, who at the age of 101 got her second tattoo.

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Others, as I discovered, take care of themselves and thus the issue of weight affecting the look of a tattoo negatively is never an issue. FOr some that do get certain ones, however, it does look bad.
 
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There are 3 basic reasons why Leviticus 19:28 says what is says.
1.Respect. Human body is G-d's creation and we should respect it.
2. To prevent idol worship as some nations at the time tatooed name of their gods on themselves.
3. Competition. The only legal form of mutiliation was of course circumcision. Being a very special sign of relationship with our G-d.

However, the Torah does not elaborate on the point of this prohibition, so for the sake of piety this law must apply to all decorative tatoos.
Something that often comes up in the discussion about mutiliation is that its difficult to simply quote Leviticus 19:28 without really seeing what the context was in regards to mutiliation---and more specifically, what kinds of mutiliations were even happening at the time that were a concern.

In example, the subject of plastic surgery/facial reconstruction and other forms of surgicial methods is something that many have done in our culture on a host of occassions. Of course, the issue of saving lives is the basis behind much of what occurs with plastic surgery and other forms of incisions, though much of it is in regards to alterations for th esake of beauty (i.e. breast implants, face lifts, liposuction surgery, eye surgery, etc)--especially if something happens that causes one to have their physial forms damaged. Examples would be burn victims or those who were physically attacked and many other things. For many, any kind of surgerical alteration for any reason is a problem since it is a marking on th body----and even if others did so previously for the sake of religious worship to their gods, others can feel that its not trusting in the Lord and turning to gods of beauty/self to do so.
 
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I feel very very strongly on the issue of tattoos for Jews. For Christians and others, I don't really think it matters. So long as it's tasteful. If you tattoo your face, well, don't expect to be treated like everyone else. For the MJ, it does seem it would make sense to avoid them. I think?

If its an issue of seeking to place tattoos on one's face, I think one needs to expect that they won't be treated the same as everyone else necessariily. But as it concerns tattoo's in general, it does seem to be an issue where its often one of preference and whatever one finds tasteful.

But for those doing so because they desire to worship the Lord, I don't care to knock that...

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Easy G (G²);58303377 said:
Something that often comes up in the discussion about mutiliation is that its difficult to simply quote Leviticus 19:28 without really seeing what the context was in regards to mutiliation---and more specifically, what kinds of mutiliations were even happening at the time that were a concern.

In example, the subject of plastic surgery/facial reconstruction and other forms of surgicial methods is something that many have done in our culture on a host of occassions. Of course, the issue of saving lives is the basis behind much of what occurs with plastic surgery and other forms of incisions, though much of it is in regards to alterations for th esake of beauty (i.e. breast implants, face lifts, liposuction surgery, eye surgery, etc)--especially if something happens that causes one to have their physial forms damaged. Examples would be burn victims or those who were physically attacked and many other things. For many, any kind of surgerical alteration for any reason is a problem since it is a marking on th body----and even if others did so previously for the sake of religious worship to their gods, others can feel that its not trusting in the Lord and turning to gods of beauty/self to do so.
The point is there is no context to Leviticus 19:28. It's short, specific and without explanation. I guess, at the time, cutting onself in the time of grief was the thing to do. I think I read about some Indians in North or South America doing that. As to the elective plastic surgery-it's not covered by Leviticus 19:28.
 
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The point is there is no context to Leviticus 19:28. It's short, specific and without explanation.
That point, however, doesn't deal with what was discussed before in the historical context of what occurred during the times when the Hebrews existed...as the scriptures were not written in a vaccum. Moreover, the text is very clear on who the markings/cuttings were being done unto---and that was unto the dead. One would have to be reading past the text to say otherwise.

The other scripture going alongside Leviticus 19:28 would be one found in Deuteronomy, which echoed similar thoughts:

Deuteronomy 14:1
[ Clean and Unclean Food ] You are the children of the LORD your God. Do not cut yourselves or shave the front of your heads for the dead, for you are a people holy to the LORD your God. Out of all the peoples on the face of the earth, the LORD has chosen you to be his treasured possession.
When understanding what often occurred with cults to dead spirits and how that was a big deal in Cannanite culture, the context of the command makes sense....and there are differing minds throughout Judaism that've noted similar.

I guess, at the time, cutting onself in the time of grief was the thing to do. I think I read about some Indians in North or South America doing that.
In Youth culture, the act of cutting is a big problem...as others do it due to being consumed by grief/depression. Didn't understand it or even know of it till a couple of years ago--and its rather surprising to see how much goes around with it.
As to the elective plastic surgery-it's not covered by Leviticus 19:28
But nonetheless, if one is going to claim that the scripture should be kept without giving definition of what the scripture actually implies, one can only go so far. That's like saying "Don't commit sexual immorality" and yet having no real idea of what the writers of scripture actually meant on that...and the scriptures do speak on it clearly.
 
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That point, however, doesn't deal with what was discussed before in the historical context of what occurred during the times when the Hebrews existed...as the scriptures were not written in a vaccum. Moreover, the text is very clear on who the markings/cuttings were being done unto---and that was unto the dead. One would have to be reading past the text to say otherwise. When understanding what often occurred with cults to dead spirits and how that was a big deal in Cannanite culture, the context of the command makes sense....and there are differing minds throughout Judaism that've noted similar.

In Youth culture, the act of cutting is a big problem...as others do it due to being consumed by grief/depression. Didn't understand it or even know of it till a couple of years ago--and its rather surprising to see how much goes around with it.
But nonetheless, if one is going to claim that the scripture should be kept without giving definition of what the scripture actually implies, one can only go so far. That's like saying "Don't commit sexual immorality" and yet having no real idea of what the writers of scripture actually meant on that...and the scriptures do speak on it clearly.
I think you may be reading too much into this. It says "your body for the dead" -don't cut yourself for the sake of the dead. So, it's not about carving the dead. As for tatoos. It says not to brand letters/marks into one's skin. Pretty clear to me.
 
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I think you may be reading too much into this. It says "your body for the dead" -don't cut yourself for the sake of the dead. So, it's not about carving the dead. .
Never said in anything I wrote that the text was about "carving the dead", as if what it was the case that they'd place markings/tattoos upon corpses...and thus, it seems you may not be reading properly what was stated plainly by myself. What was mentioned was that the marks/tattoos were not to be done for the dead--as said earlier in the original post---since the tattoos/markings were done in that culture by other nations to give power to others when it need...and if a loved one had passed away, one would place markings/tattoos on themselves that symbolized whichever spirit they wished to call up....and the same went for deities they wished to show appreciation for. Its why the priests of Baal would slash themselves in order to appease the gods when they didn't answer during the contest between themselves and Elijah.

Again, there is a clear context to the issue of markings/tattoo symbols that can be easily missed.

As for tatoos. It says not to brand letters/marks into one's skin. Pretty clear to me
Indeed, its clear---but as already mentioned, the brand letters/marks were considered wrong when they were done for the DEAD.
Leviticus 19:28
You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the LORD.
Leviticus 19:27-29 Leviticus 19
As said earlier, the other scripture going alongside Leviticus 19:28 would be one found in Deuteronomy, which echoed similar thoughts:
Deuteronomy 14:1
[ Clean and Unclean Food ] You are the children of the LORD your God. Do not cut yourselves or shave the front of your heads for the dead, for you are a people holy to the LORD your God. Out of all the peoples on the face of the earth, the LORD has chosen you to be his treasured possession.
In Biblical times, tattoos were used to show allegiance to particular idols. And the specific Torah commandment is against self-injury during mourning, which were also idolatrous practices. Leviticus 19:28 includes purposeful self-mutilation, cutting, scarification, burning, etc. Note that the psychological self-mutilation issue is very different from these kinds of actions being done for the sake of beauty or idolatry. Tattos and markings were mentioned in unison when it came to the practice of doing so for the dead, in light of Caananite culture. Some of this was discussed more in-depth elsewhere, in regards to the Caananite cultural practices when it came to worshipping the dead...as seen in the thread entitled Ghosts, God and Supernatural: How many kinds of spirits existed in the OT/NT Judaism? . And on some excellent reads on the issue that were mentioned, one can go online/look up the books entitled Israel’s Beneficent Dead: Ancestor Cult and Necromancy in Ancient Israelite Religion and Tradition and Judahite Burial Practices and Beliefs About the Dead (Jsots Series No 123).
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Rather fascinating, IMHO...and its rather crazy to see how many aren't aware of the spiritual practices behind cutting. As seen in what occurred with the man who was possessed when it came to Jesus casting the demon out:
Mark 5:5
.[a] 2 And when He had come out of the boat, immediately there met Him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, 3 who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no one could bind him,[b] not even with chains, 4 because he had often been bound with shackles and chains. And the chains had been pulled apart by him, and the shackles broken in pieces; neither could anyone tame him


And always, night and day, he was in the mountains and in the tombs, crying out and cutting himself with stones.


When he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped Him. 7 And he cried out with a loud voice and said, “What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore You by God that You do not torment me.”

8 For He said to him, “Come out of the man, unclean spirit!” 9 Then He asked him, “What is your name?” And he answered, saying, “My name is Legion; for we are many.” 10 Also he begged Him earnestly that He would not send them out of the country.


11 Now a large herd of swine was feeding there near the mountains. 12 So all the demons begged Him, saying, “Send us to the swine, that we may enter them.” 13 And at once Jesus[c] gave them permission. Then the unclean spirits went out and entered the swine (there were about two thousand); and the herd ran violently down the steep place into the sea, and drowned in the sea. 14 So those who fed the swine fled, and they told it in the city and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that had happened. 15 Then they came to Jesus, and saw the one who had been demon-possessed and had the legion, sitting and clothed and in his right mind. And they were afraid.
Mark 5:4-6 / Mark 5
Outside of that, the practice of cutting oneself could also be tied to demonic practices when it came to physical self-harm....and in talking with plenty of other young adults who've either seen it or struggled themselves, its no small reality. There are many good ministries which have sought to deal with the issue in-depth ( as seen here)--and for more, one can consider investigating the following:






Nonetheless, many are often clueless as to the roots of the practice.
 
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