Orthodox Bluegrass

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I'm not Orthodox, so hopefully no one will kick me out, but … I love bluegrass and old time music. :D
We ain't gonna kick you out & your're right much of it is good stuff.
 
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I heard about an ancient Yorkshire Christmas carol from about the 9th c that was heard being sung by an old woman in appalachia in the 21st c. & had been totally forgotten in Britain and that some of the American mountain folk kept the old calendar Christmas until the early 20th c (which included singing ancient carols, perhaps a few others pre 1054?).


I don't know about anything that old. Most of the songs seem to be from the 17th-19th cent (when the communities came over). Stuff like Barbry Allen, Mary of the Wild Moor, Over the River Charlie, In the Pines, The Cuckou, Wayfaring Stranger.... etc.

Anything is possible though.

The old ways are dying out. When I was a teenager there was an effort to teach the the old ballads, stories, and dances in the schools. The kids would rather eat pizza and play video games.
 
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No, though some parts of culture probably SHOULD be abandoned, and the discussion moved away from that when saying, "Now you're Greek" is listed as a horrible, rude action.

I've got an idea...from now on whenever an ethnic person starts attending an OCA parish, we should say to them, "Now you're a redneck!!!"

^_^
 
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here where I am, it should be "now you're a northerner!" I bet that would get 'em. It would totally offend the ethnics AND the southerners. But hey, what do I know, I just grew up all over the country and in all kinds of parishes, seeing all kinds of stuff happen, experiencing a lot of different flavors of Orthodoxy, from all cradle to all convert. I totally don't get it, and my viewpoint is totally worthless. No more discussion, because it has to be argument. BAH!
 
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I heard about an ancient Yorkshire Christmas carol from about the 9th c that was heard being sung by an old woman in appalachia in the 21st c. & had been totally forgotten in Britain and that some of the American mountain folk kept the old calendar Christmas until the early 20th c (which included singing ancient carols, perhaps a few others pre 1054?).

Appalachian History » The Cherry Tree Carol (abridged)

This is a pretty cool hymn. Maybe this is the one you were hearing of?? I believe a similar story to the one told in this carol is found in a text called the Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew.
 
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Appalachian History » The Cherry Tree Carol (abridged)

This is a pretty cool hymn. Maybe this is the one you were hearing of?? I believe a similar story to the one told in this carol is found in a text called the Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew.
No, not this one although this seems really good & thanks for it. A few years ago I recall listening to a culture news segment on NPR re Appalachia & one of the researchers mentioned about an ancient Christmas carol dating back to the 9th c in Yorkshire that was being sung by an old woman & had been forgotten probably everywhere else. The song was about the manger animals singing praise to the birth of the Lord & only on Christmas eve do they sing like humans. I wish I had more to go on. Undoubtedly the American Appalachians have observed Christmas in their homes that harken back to ancient times & some of the bluegrass music must have this as its seeds.
 
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No, not this one although this seems really good & thanks for it. A few years ago I recall listening to a culture news segment on NPR re Appalachia & one of the researchers mentioned about an ancient Christmas carol dating back to the 9th c in Yorkshire that was being sung by an old woman & had been forgotten probably everywhere else. The song was about the manger animals singing praise to the birth of the Lord & only on Christmas eve do they sing like humans. I wish I had more to go on. Undoubtedly the American Appalachians have observed Christmas in their homes that harken back to ancient times & some of the bluegrass music must have this as its seeds.

I am familiar with the story of the animals, but I don't know the song. The tradition goes that at midnight on Christmas Eve, the farm animals are granted human speech because of the kindness the animals in the stable showed to the Christ child.

The closest I could find for a song was (definitely NOT a 9th cent melody):

YouTube - The Friendly Beasts
 
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