Who here was not convinced from the existence of this thread that that was not a foregone conclusion? And for reasons that have more to do with you than with him.This thread has deviated way off topic. I wanted to discuss whether or not we could trust what Obama says about his religion. I haven't read anything to convince me we can.
So...as opposed to Muhammad you don't believe Christians can participate in war?
tulc(just curious)
...uhmmm all of which has nothing to do with the question I asked.First of all Muhammad was a thief and a plunderer. He fought in aggressive wars to subdue and take from others and for political gain. Most of his converts in his life came from political power, not religion. By his own words recorded after his death he was one evil dude. He did every vile thing physically possible. Muhammad's biograph is found in the Sira and his traditions in the Hadith.
would that be this part?I think you need to refer to Ecclesiastes 3 for your answer.
tulc(just curious)Ecclesiastes 3:16-22 said:16-18 I took another good look at what's going on: The very place of judgment— corrupt! The place of righteousness—corrupt! I said to myself, "God will judge righteous and wicked." There's a right time for every thing, every deed—and there's no getting around it. I said to myself regarding the human race, "God's testing the lot of us, showing us up as nothing but animals." 19-22 Humans and animals come to the same end—humans die, animals die. We all breathe the same air. So there's really no advantage in being human. None. Everything's smoke. We all end up in the same place—we all came from dust, we all end up as dust. Nobody knows for sure that the human spirit rises to heaven or that the animal spirit sinks into the earth. So I made up my mind that there's nothing better for us men and women than to have a good time in whatever we do—that's our lot. Who knows if there's anything else to life?
Dear person with a Catholic symbol next to their name, no religion is innocent when they have control.
Again...WHO CARES...it's his religion. He has the freedom of religion, does he not? And there is no religious test for political office.
You should care, because if he used his office to advance Islam, it could lead to your eventual enslavement.
So...as opposed to Muhammad you don't believe Christians can participate in war?
tulc(just curious)
This is news to me, when has Obama advocated Sharia Law?
I would care if any President used the office to push their religion. I haven't seen Obama do so.
Who here was not convinced from the existence of this thread that that was not a foregone conclusion? And for reasons that have more to do with you than with him.
Really, what could anyone say that could possibly convince you?
It's apparent you didn't understand the question - what, if it were true, would convince you? What sort of thing would you find convincing?There probably isn't anything anybody could say to convince me or anyone else. That's why you shouldn't be convinced yourself.
As did Christian with crusades did in Muhammed's time. You're Catholic, the other day I bought what is essentially the Catholic's manual on how to torture people in history. The other month it came to light letters from the Catholic church itself to keep it secret children where being sexually abused by their clergy. Again, no religion is immune from the nastys once in power.Muhammed actually sought control. Islam is more than a religion, it's a political movement. The objective is to rule the Earth and impose Sharia on everyone.
The danger in having a Muslim President is that he could use his office in non-obvious ways to advance the cause of Islam around the world. Take what is happening in Libya right now, for example. Nobody likes Gadfly, but if he gets kicked out, who takes over? If the Muslim Brotherhood took over the middle east, it could be a catastrophe for the Christian world, which includes the USA and her allies.
As did Christian with crusades did in Muhammed's time. You're Catholic, the other day I bought what is essentially the Catholic's manual on how to torture people in history. The other month it came to light letters from the Catholic church itself to keep it secret children where being sexually abused by their clergy. Again, no religion is immune from the nastys once in power.