Ephraim, not the Jews, bears Abraham's blessing of power + myraids of descendants.

Where is Ephraim?

  • Ephraim is easy to spot.

  • There is no way of knowing where Ephraim is.

  • It is racisist to even look for Ephraim.

  • Wow!


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Is Ephraim (Ephraim's descendants) ruling the world today? Does Ephraim dominate Christ's Church of today, due to his possession of the Blessing of Abraham? Is Ephraim the 'Harlot of Babylon? Is it racist to even contemplate the blessing of Abraham, 'to become many nations', upon Ephraim? Ephraim is Abraham's great, great, great grandson. Scriptures point to Ephraim as the one to recieve the blessing of Abraham over the others of Abraham's desendents, even Israel's (Jacob) twelve sons (twelve tribes of Israel).

The Jewish people are descendants of the tribe of Judah. To preserve Christ's liniage, they alone were the ones to have thier liniage preserved. The other tribes of Israel were 'lost' when God scattered the Israelites after their fall. We do not know who the other descendants of Abraham are. Or' do we? Are the Jews one twelth of Mayberry while Ephraim, bearingh the blessing of Abraham, is the size of Los Angelos, comparitively speaking?

What do you think?

The blessing of Abraham is world dominant power in the form of many nations and a massive amount of descendants. One can look at the size of the Jewish population on earth today and see that they are not a huge population with dominating world secular power. This is because they are not the ones bearing the blessing of Abraham. Like their uncle Esau, (Esau is Jacob's (Israel) twin brother), the Twelve Tribes of Israel, of which the Jews are one of the Twelve Tribes, were bypassed and did not receive the blessing of Abraham. Father Jacob placed the blessing of Abraham upon his grandson Ephraim. Ephraim is the son of Joseph. Joseph is one of the Twelve Tribes of Israel, but even Joseph's other son Manasseh did not receive the blessing of Abraham. Scripture describes Ephraim as having a myraid (uncountable) of descendants to Manassh's 'thousands' of descendants.

By the time Ephraim received the blessing of Abraham, from his grandfather Jacob/Israel, his dad, Joseph, was already the most powerful man in the world. Joseph ruled over, food rich, powerhouse Egypt in a time of devastating world famine. Bearing the blessing of Abraham, Ephraim is a magnet for dominating secular world power wherever he goes, even as a slave in exile. Due to the Blessing of Abraham, Ephraim’s motto, just like his dad Joseph, is, now that you have conquered and enslaved me, crown me as your king. Joseph, destine to rule over the other tribes of Israel and the world, as his dream indicated (GEN 37:5), could be doing so through his son Ephraim (Ephraim's descendents) lost in the masses today.

God was King over Israel from the time they came out of Egypt till the time God exiled Israel into Babylon. Because of Israel's sins, God handed them over to secular power, Babylon, in 587 B.C. Israel is described as a 'harlot' in Babylon because Israel chose false gods and sin over loving God through obedience. The question is; Is Ephraim, because he is the one bestowed with the blessing of Abraham, of world dominant secular power and a myraid of desendents to become a multitude of nations, the 'harlot of Babylon', riding on the beast at Armageddon? The beast is world dominant secular power.

Is Ephraim, (his descendants), hiding in plain sight today? What do you think? Is it racist or evil to even look for Ephraim today? Ephraim has the blessing of Abraham but he is really not on God's favored list but actually the one leading the rest of the world astray in the era of the Apocalypse. So can we discuss slash look for, Ephraim?

NAB2 GEN 48:17
When Joseph saw that his father had laid his right hand on Ephraim’s head, this seemed wrong to him; so he took hold of his father’s hand, to remove it from Ephraim’s head to Manasseh’s, saying, “That is not right, father; the other one is the first-born; lay your right hand on his head!” But his father resisted. “I know it, son,” he said, “I know. That one too shall become a tribe, and he too shall be great. Nevertheless, his younger brother shall surpass him, and his descendants shall become a multitude of nations.” So when he blessed them that day and said, “By you shall the people of Israel pronounce blessings; may they say, ‘God make you like Ephraim and Manasseh,’” he placed Ephraim before Manasseh. Then Israel said to Joseph: “I am about to die. ButGod will be with you and will restore you to the land of your fathers.

NAB2 GEN 41:52
Ephraim, meaning, “God has made me fruitful in the land of my affliction.”

NAB2 GEN 48:3
Jacob then said to Joseph: “God Almighty appeared to me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessing me, he said, ‘I will make you fertile and numerous and raise you into an assembly of tribes, and I will give this land to your descendants after you as a permanent possession.’ Your two sons, therefore, who were born to you in the land of Egypt before I joined you here, shall be mine; Ephraim and Manasseh shall be mine as much as Reuben and Simeon are mine. Progeny born to you after them shall remain yours; but their heritage shall be recorded in the names of their two brothers. I do this because, when I was returning from Paddan, your mother Rachel died, to my sorrow, during the journey in Canaan, while we were still a short distance from Ephrath; and I buried her there on the way to Ephrath (that is, Bethlehem).”
POWER


NAB2 GEN 25:25
The first to emerge was reddish, and his whole body was like a hairy mantle; so they named him Esau. His brother came out next, gripping Esau’s heel; so they named him Jacob.
NAB2 GEN 25:28
Isaac preferred Esau, because he was fond of game; but Rebekah preferred Jacob. Once, when Jacob was cooking a stew, Esau came in from the open, famished. He said to Jacob, “Let me gulp down some of that red stuff; I‘m starving.” (That is why he was called Edom.) But Jacob replied, “First give me your birthright in exchange for it.” “Look,” said Esau, “I‘m on the point of dying. What good will any birthright do me?” But Jacob insisted, “Swear to me first!” So he sold Jacob his birthright under oath. Jacob then gave him some bread and the lentil stew; and Esau ate, drank, got up, and went his way. Esau cared little for his birthright.
NAB2 GEN 27:15
Rebekah then took the best clothes of her older son Esau that she had in the house, and gave them to her younger son Jacob to wear; and with the skins of the kids she covered up his hands and the hairless parts of his neck. Then she handed her son Jacob the appetizing dish and the bread she had prepared. Bringing them to his father, Jacob said, “Father!” “Yes?” replied Isaac. “Which of my sons are you?” Jacob answered his father: “I am Esau, your first-born. I did as you told me. Please sit up and eat some of my game, so that you may give me your special blessing.” But Isaac asked, “How did you succeed so quickly, son?” He answered, “The LORD, your God, let things turn out well with me.” Isaac then said to Jacob, “Come closer, son, that I may feel you, to learn whether you really are my son Esau or not.” So Jacob moved up closer to his father. When Isaac felt him, he said, “Although the voice is Jacob’s, the hands are Esau’s.” (He failed to identify him because his hands were hairy, like those of his brother Esau; so in the end he gave him his blessing.) Again he asked him, “Are you really my son Esau?” “Certainly,” he replied. Then Isaac said, “Serve me your game, son, that I may eat of it and then give you my blessing.” Jacob served it to him, and Isaac ate; he brought him wine, and he drank. Finally his father Isaac said to him, “Come closer, son, and kiss me.” As Jacob went up and kissed him, Isaac smelled the fragrance of his clothes. With that, he blessed him, saying, “Ah, the fragrance of my son is like the fragrance of a field that the LORD has blessed! “May God give to you of the dew of the heavens And of the fertility of the earth abundance of grain and wine. “Let peoples serve you, and nations pay you homage; Be master of your brothers, and may your mother’s sons bow down to you. Cursed be those who curse you, and blessed be those who bless you.” Jacob had scarcely left his father, just after Isaac had finished blessing him, when his brother Esau came back from his hunt. Then he too prepared an appetizing dish with his game, and bringing it to his father, he said, “Please, father, eat some of your son’s game, that you may then give me your special blessing.” “Who are you?” his father Isaac asked him. “I am Esau,” he replied, “your first-born son.” With that, Isaac was seized with a fit of uncontrollable trembling. “Who was it, then,” he asked, “that hunted game and brought it to me? I finished eating it just before you came, and I blessed him. Now he must remain blessed!”
NAB3 GEN 37:5
Once Joseph had a dream, which he told to his brothers: “Listen to this dream I had. There we were, binding sheaves in the field, when suddenly my sheaf rose to an upright position, and your sheaves formed a ring around my sheaf and bowed down to it.” ”Are you really going to make yourself king over us?” his brothers asked him. “Or impose your rule on us?” So they hated him all the more because of his talk about his dreams.


NAB2 GEN 41:39
So Pharaoh said to Joseph: “Since God has made all this known to you, no one can be as wise and discerning as you are. You shall be in charge of my palace, and all my people shall dart at your command. Only in respect to the throne shall I outrank you. Herewith,” Pharaoh told Joseph, “I place you in charge of the whole land of Egypt.” With that, Pharaoh took off his signet ring and put it on Joseph’s finger. He had him dressed in robes of fine linen and put a gold chain about his neck. He then had him ride in the chariot of his vizier, and they shouted “Abrek!” before him. Thus was Joseph installed over the whole land of Egypt.


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Broken Hearted God
The Fall of the 'Harlot of Babylon'

Broken Hearted God; The Fall of the 'Harlot of Babylon'
 
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Abraham was given the promise to be a father of nations, with descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and the sand on the shore.
This prophecy cannot be fulfilled in the tribe of Judah, no matter how big they become.
They are but one tribe, one people, one nation.

Hosea foretold the sons of Ephraim being sown by the Assyrians through God's great wrath at their idolatry. But God is forever faithful to his wife, even when she is a harlot he does not divorce her but produces children with her anyways.

Indeed God even forgave a destructive punishment of repentant Ninevah in Jonah due the fact that.... they had many cattle?
Yes, food in abundance would be available to the lost sons and daughter of Ephraim to multiply and grow in great numbers.

That is why Jesus went to look for the lost sheep, scattered like seeds among the nations, sowed and nourished among the nations to produce a great crop.

Chastised, punished, lost, forgotten to the world and even to themselves, but never forgotten by God.

Jesus recognizes the cries of his sheep and they recognize their Shepherd.
It is not hard for Jesus to fiind Ephraim, nor they him.

Nor is it racist, for Ephraim has become the kind of the myriad races and nations of the world, so completely was the seed scattered.

Ephraim is the lost sheep of Israel now gathered into the fold of the good Shephard. IN the Church, the promise that God made to Abraham and his descendants has been fulfilled in full.
 
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Well that a first. My side wins , and all it took was one vote.

Hello Solomon,

The white race (Ephraim), being the big dog to carry out the major fulfillment of God's blessings to Abraham; I thought would be a big discussion maker. Though, the white race is also the 'harlot of Babylon', riding on the back of world dominant power (the beast), of Revelations; The white race also being Christ's prodigal son, (spending his inheritance (the blessing of Abraham) on disalute living); These things are not so flatering to we white people. Still, Wow, I used to think only the Jews were God's chosen people of the Promised Land! Abraham, through his descendants, is way bigger than most people think!

When one realizes that all that the white race has, in regard to world dominant secular power and material wealth, over other races, is due to God's blessing to Abraham, I feel a little, wow! God really does influence the world in a big way! God thought that the tribe of Joseph, mainly his son Ephraim (the white race), and all of the other tribes of Israel (like the Jews), would be a faithful bride and loving children, yet she, Israel, especially Ephraim, chose to become a harlot.

The New Jerusalem of Zion is very Israel orientated. I know that many in the world, Muslims I am thinking, would contest the very thought of having to live in 'Zion', the city of King David, to live in eternal life. Still this is the way God sees things. Jesus, and His Church, call all people, of all races, to eternal life in Zion. Many of the bloodline of Israel will not be in heaven and replaced by non-Abraham descendants who seek to love and obey the God of Israel. Scriptures seem to even indicate there will be more non-descendants of Israel, in the New Jerusalem of Zion, than natural heirs. Still, God is still pretty set on giving the glory to Israel. Under Messianic Reign, scriptures tell us that Israel will be glorified. God is not as 'politically correct' (all religions are equal) as many people want to make Him out to be.

What do you think? Ephraim! Mr. 'multitude of nations', with a myraid of desendants, ruling over the world today, what do you and others think? I am speaking to all of us who have not yet posted any replies. Let us break down the barriers and talk about just who Ephraim is and what Israel means to God. Good or bad.

Thanks for posting on my thread Solomon.
 
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Many of the bloodline of Israel will not be in heaven and replaced by non-Abraham descendants who seek to love and obey the God of Israel.

Perhaps I am misreading this but are you saying that us Jews will not enter Heaven? Also, I don't know what makes you think Ephraim was white considering he was the son of a Jew and an Egyptian.
 
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Perhaps I am misreading this but are you saying that us Jews will not enter Heaven? Also, I don't know what makes you think Ephraim was white considering he was the son of a Jew and an Egyptian.

Hello Andrew,

Ephraim was not the son of Jew. This is one of my major points. Ephraim was the son of Joseph. Joseph was Judah's brother. The Jews are descendants of Judah. Many people see Israel as the Jewish people. Israel is all twelve tribes of Israel.

Where God preserved the Jewish liniage to later establish Jesus' liniage as a Jew, the other tribes of Israel were 'lost' and scattered among the nations. They still exist and multiply, however, we do not have records of who they are as the Jewish people do. The other twelve tribes of Israel are still among us.

The reason I say Ephraim is the white race is through deductive reasoning. If you are going to look for Ephraim you simply have to go to scriptures to see what he will look like. Ephraim will become a 'myraid of descendants' compared to Mannaseh as having thousands of descendants. Ephraim will be reproductive dominant. Reproductive dominance means about, only one thing, he has pretty daughters. Deductive reasoning can explain how Ephraim rises to power, quickly, where ever he goes. When a foreign Power conquers Ephraim and they march Ephraim's supermodels before the king, what is the king going to do? The king is going to put little Ephraim's on his throne. Ephraim's sons may rule the world but it is Ephraim's daughters who, no doubt, conquer the world. Ephraim, like his dad Joseph, "Now that you have conquered me, crown me as your king".

You tell me, and be honest, when you look through the pages of Glamor Magazine, who's descendants are you going to find? Who are the supermodels standing next to products on advertizments? They will be Ephraim's descendants because God made Ephraim reproductive dominant. When nations go to war and only twenty percent of the male reproducing population returns from battle, they will choose Ephraim's daughters. Ephraim is reproductive dominant.

God can mutate genetics as He desires. Making Ephraim's descendants beautiful ensured that Ephraim would be reproductive dominant and it would also put Ephraim on the thrones of the world. The reason Europe is predominately white is because Ephraim (his descendants) lived there. Ephraim's genes overtook Europe to produce a myraid of descendants for Abraham. When you are reproductive dominant, gifted to produce a myraid of (uncountable) descendants for your great, great grandfather, this is just what you do over thousands of years.

Try to work it the other way. Can you imagine telling your son, "No son, you cannot marry that beautiful, drop dead gorgeous supermodel. I want you to marry this average looking woman so that Abraham can have a myraid of descendants. I know son. You are preaching to the chior. We men have been passing up the gorgeous supermodel women and marrying average looking descendants of Ephraim, to give Abraham a myraid of descendants. We, the men from all over the world, have been doing this for the past four thousand years. It is our duty." This type of strategy simply would not have given Ephraim a myraid of descendants or put Ephraim's descendants on their enemie's thrones. Reproductive dominance is in Ephraim's genes. If you want to know who Ephraims descendants are, find out which women attract men, from all over the world, more; these women will be Ephraim's daughters. Ephraim's daughters are his world conquerers and the baby makers for myraids of descendants for Abraham. God can do the miraculous. I think God took the easy route and simply made Ephraim's daughters gorgeous. Gorgeous daughters for Ephraim will make myraids of descendants for Abraham and put Ephraim's descendants in power.

Ephraim is blessed with world dominant secular power. Who fits this gift from the blessing of Abraham? Who has power in the Church? Ephraim, his descendants, have Catholic Church power all tied up. We bearly branched out from Italian popes much less hand Church power over to a non-Ephraim descendant.

quoted from: Broken Hearted God; The Fall of the Harlot of Babylon.
Broken Hearted God; The Fall of the 'Harlot of Babylon'

Jacob, who is Israel, Also brought Joseph's two sons Mannaseh and Ephraim up to the same level as his other sons. One can say that there are actually fourteen tribes of Israel.




Quoted from: The Twelve Tribes of Israel

I do not know where your question as to whether Jews will go to heaven or not comes from. I never mentioned anything like this. It is those unfaithful to the God of Abraham who will not go to heaven.

Here is the blessing of Abraham placed upon Ephraim's head. Jacob had twelve sons. Rachel was Jacobs true love and favored wife. Joseph and Benjamin were Jacob's sons through Rachel. Jacob (Israel) passed the blessing of Abraham through his favored wife's liniage. It is Rachel's eldest son Joseph's son Ephraim who is given the blessing of Abraham.

NAB2 GEN 48:17
When Joseph saw that his father had laid his right hand on Ephraim’s head, this seemed wrong to him; so he took hold of his father’s hand, to remove it from Ephraim’s head to Manasseh’s, saying, “That is not right, father; the other one is the first-born; lay your right hand on his head!” But his father resisted. “I know it, son,” he said, “I know. That one too shall become a tribe, and he too shall be great. Nevertheless, his younger brother shall surpass him, and his descendants shall become a multitude of nations.” So when he blessed them that day and said, “By you shall the people of Israel pronounce blessings; may they say, ‘God make you like Ephraim and Manasseh,’” he placed Ephraim before Manasseh. Then Israel said to Joseph: “I am about to die. But God will be with you and will restore you to the land of your fathers. NAB2 GEN 41:52
Ephraim, meaning, “God has made me fruitful in the land of my affliction.” NAB2 GEN 48:3
Jacob then said to Joseph: “God Almighty appeared to me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessing me, he said, ‘I will make you fertile and numerous and raise you into an assembly of tribes, and I will give this land to your descendants after you as a permanent possession.’ Your two sons, therefore, who were born to you in the land of Egypt before I joined you here, shall be mine; Ephraim and Manasseh shall be mine as much as Reuben and Simeon are mine. Progeny born to you after them shall remain yours; but their heritage shall be recorded in the names of their two brothers.
 
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This sounds like something one would find on Stormfront or as I call it Scumfront. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, were all Jews. I don't really understand how Europeans would be involved or how they could possibly be the descendants of Ephraim considering all of this takes place in the Middle-East and North Africa. Not where you folks come from. Further, I don't see why you are stating the descendants of Ephraim are dominate in appearance and so on. Funny how white people have said this and then go after that dark meat. Yes, I am beginning to find this thread to be racist.
 
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I said "wow."

Because I have no idea what you're talking about. :o

Hello Princess,

I am an apocalyptic author.

Jesus is enthroned as King and Ruler of the world when the seventh angel of Armageddon blows his trumpet. The nation Zion is born when Jesus is enthroned as King and Ruler of the world. Jesus will Rule through His Church, the Catholic Church, from Zion. Peace, justice, repentance and conversion will flow from Messianic Reign.

If you want to go to Zion; Let us all scream, "Lets go to Zion", you must first understand apocalyptic scriptures. To understand apocalyptic scriptures, you must first understand the big players, Satan, Michael, the Catholic Church and secular world dominant power in pre-Armageddon times. The Blessed Mother of Fatima has given the Catholic Church the green light to take us into Messianic Reign and Zion. Scriptures presently selected for the literagey are more and more focusing on Apocalyptic scriptures of Zion. I am sure the Church is preparing for with Satan at Armageddon. Zion is a good place. Lets go. First we have to understand how Power is transfered from world dominant secular power to Jesus and then from Jesus to His Church. Understanding those who presently possess world power from God is a big key to understanding how Armageddon unfolds.

Ephraim, Satan, and the Jewish Church, all are presently in possession of world dominant power. They all were given power over the world by God. They all fall from power at the Battle of Armageddon. On the other side of the Battle of Armageddon, Jesus is King and Rules the world through His Church, for tens of thousands of years. Messianic Reign and Zion is where we, after recieving the Third Secret of Fatima, now want to be. So I am trying to start by discussing one of the biggest key players of the Apocalypse and that is Ephraim who is gifted by God, through Jacob/Israel, with present world dominant secular power. Ephraim is the white race. Ephraim is the 'harlot of Babylon' riding on the back of the beast of Revelations. The diadem that the harlot wears is nothing less than the blessing of Abraham. The diadem is also embedded in the forhead of the dragon. The dragon is man's evil pride (Satan). The beast of Revelations is world dominant secular power.

Ephraim is also God's 'weapon for war', the Catholic Church, at the Battle of Armageddon. Ephraim is on both sides of the battle.

The first thing I am trying to do is to get you to understand just who Ephraim (Ephraim through his descendants) is today.

Ask any questions you like. I really want to explain to you how scriptures indicate that we will get to Zion. I try to speak simply but they do not call Revelations, Revelations for nothing. Revelations is dificult to understand and this is why no one has preveously deciphered it for 2000 years. Call me wrong, but living in Zion is just to awesome to pass up. Let us figure this thing out and go to Zion where the world is under Messianic Reign.

Man's evil pride, Satan, ruling the world through Ephraim, is the bad guy of Apocalyptic Scriptures. Armageddon is where Jesus defeats Satan. Apostolic Successors are the ones armed by Jesus for this inevitable battle. Apostolic Successors (Catholic clergy) are the Angels of the Apocalypse, who fight behind Jesus, at Armageddon, to defeat Satan.

NAB3 REV 12:3

Then another sign appeared in the sky; it was a huge red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems. Its tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth. Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth.
NAB2 REV 17:3

Then he carried me away in spirit to a deserted place where I saw a woman seated on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names, with seven heads and ten horns. The woman was wearing purple and scarlet and adorned with gold, precious stones, and pearls. She held in her hand a gold cup that was filled with the abominable and sordid deeds of her harlotry. On her forehead was written a name, which is a mystery, “Babylon the great, the mother of harlots and of the abominations of the earth.” I saw that the woman was drunk on the blood of the holy ones and on the blood of the witnesses to Jesus. When I saw her I was greatly amazed. NAB ISA 28:1



Peace,
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Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, were all Jews.

Hello Andrew,

I am under the understanding that the term "Jew" stands for those from the house of Judah. Abraham's grandson Jacob is Israel. Jacob had twelve sons or tribes. Only one of the twelve tribes was the house of Judah. I am from the understanding that the term "Jew" is from the term "Judah".

The quote below is from New World Encyclopedia. To me, this quote seems to confirm my thinking. Though there seems to be room for misunderstanding. Please post some links from your side of thinking that the term "Jew" or the Jewish people are not the House of Judah but instead include Abraham and all on down.

I welcome any source that you may have to clarify your side of the term "Jew".

Also do we at least agree Ephraim is not from the 'House of Judah' but from Judah's brother, the 'House of Joseph'?

Thank you.​


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Map of the tribal allotments (c. 1759 C.E.); Judah is to the far south



The Tribe of Judah (Hebrew Yəhuda, "Praise") is one of the Hebrew tribes, founded by Judah, son of Jacob.
The tribe was allotted the southernmost area of Canaan after the territory's conquest by the Israelites under Joshua. It became both the most powerful and the most important of the tribes. The religion centered on the Jewish God Yahweh first took roots among the people of Judah. From this tribe came the great kings David and Solomon and all of the kings recognized by the Bible as good. The Messiah, as a lineal descendant of David, also comes from the tribe of Judah.

Together with the Tribe of Benjamin and elements of the Tribe of Levi, the descendants of Judah eventually formed the southern Kingdom of Judah in the ancient land of Israel. The Judahites were not among the "lost" ten tribes of the northern Kingdom of Israel when it fell to the Assyrians in 722 B.C.E. Instead, the people of Judah were exiled to Babylon about 586, but were eventually able to return and rebuild their nation. In time, the tribe of Judah became identified with the entire Hebrew nation and gave its name to the people known today as the Jews.


Quoted from: Tribe of Judah - New World Encyclopedia
 
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I said "wow."

Because I have no idea what you're talking about. :o
He finds white chicks are really, really hot and he imagines that that must be the case for the whole world.

Myself, I like variety though, so his deductive reasoning falls apart on my account.
I kind of wished that girls would come in a smarties box, so we wouldn't have to chose.

@"&&/##!! monogamy laws!!
 
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He finds white chicks are really, really hot and he imagines that that must be the case for the whole world.

Myself, I like variety though, so his deductive reasoning falls apart on my account.

Hello Solomon,

So how do you think God blesses Ephraim with a myraid of descendants? How do you see God building of 'multitude of nations' from one man's offspring? If God did not bless Ephraim with pretty daughters then how do you think God made Ephraim reproductive dominant?

NAB2 GEN 48:17
When Joseph saw that his father had laid his right hand on Ephraim’s head, this seemed wrong to him; so he took hold of his father’s hand, to remove it from Ephraim’s head to Manasseh’s, saying, “That is not right, father; the other one is the first-born; lay your right hand on his head!” But his father resisted. “I know it, son,” he said, “I know. That one too shall become a tribe, and he too shall be great. Nevertheless, his younger brother shall surpass him, and his descendants shall become a multitude of nations.”

NAB2 GEN 41:52
Ephraim, meaning, “God has made me fruitful in the land of my affliction.”
 
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The ten lost tribes were scattered to the ends of the earth, as far as I know. Jesus gathers these lost sheep from all of mankind, an not just Europe.

Wanting to share the enthusiasm of Barak Obama's inaguration with my African American co-worker, I said, "Finally a 'brother' in the white house". He retracted, "That (blank) is not a black man. He is a (blank) white guy."

President Barak Obama is , at least, three quarters Ephraim.

I am positive that the Spanish blew Ephraim's genes all over South America. Ephraim is spread out through out the world.

Even in other races, men will choose the woman who has Ephraim's genes. Other races have Ephraim's daughters among them.

When Jesus gathers the lost sheep of Israel, it will be those who seek to love God through obedience, regardless of whether or not they are descendants of Abraham, whom will be gathered up into the New Jerusalem aka Zion.
 
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Are ugly whities going to the new Zion? I am not pretty/beautiful or whatever but I'm pretty white.
Ah but you already posted your picture here on another thread.
If you are not the pretty one in that trio, I will be shocked, schocked!
 
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You are saying "Whities are the only ones going to Heaven?"

Dude don't you want to take this to GT?

Hello Brikkz,

Ephraim, (the white race) is made a waste at Armageddon (HOS 5:9); And the house of Judah. Ephraim is the 'harlot of Babylon' riding on the back of the 'beast' (world dominant secular power) at Armageddon. The diadem that the beast and the harlot wear, in the Book of Revelations, is the blessing of Abraham mounted on the forehead of man's evil pride on earth. Ephraim is the one bearing the blessing of Abraham.

Jesus assures us those non-descendants of Abraham will take the places of a majority of the natural heirs of Abraham, in heaven.

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The Fall of the 'Harlot of Babylon'



By Steven Merten NAB2 HOS 5:3

I know Ephraim, and Israel is not hidden from me; Now Ephraim has played the harlot, Israel is defiled. Their deeds do not allow them to return to their God; For the spirit of harlotry is in them, and they do not recognize the LORD. The arrogance of Israel bears witness against him; Ephraim stumbles in his guilt, and Judah stumbles with them.</U>
NAB2 HOS 5:9

Ephraim shall become a waste on the day of chastisement: Against the tribes of Israel I announce what is sure to be.
NAB2 HOS 6:10

In the house of Israel I have seen a horrible thing: there harlotry is found in Ephraim, Israel is defiled. For you also, O Judah, a harvest has been appointed.
NAB MAT 8:11

Mark what I say! Many will come from the east and the west and will find a place at the banquet in the kingdom of God with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, while the natural heirs of the kingdom will be driven out into the dark, Wailing will be heard there, and the grinding of teeth.
NAB LUK 14:15

At these words one in the party said to him, Happy is he who eats bread in the kingdom of God. Jesus responded: A man was giving a large dinner and he invited many. At dinner time he sent his servant to say to those invited, Come along, everything is ready now. But they began to excuse themselves, one and all. The first one said to the servant, I have bought some land and must go out and inspect it. Please excuse me. Another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen and I am going out to test them. Please excuse me. A third said, I am newly married and so I cannot come. The servant returning reported all this to his master. The master of the house grew angry at the account. He said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and alleys of the town and bring in the poor and the crippled, the blind and the lame. The servant reported, after some time, Your orders have been carried out, my lord, and there is still room. The master them said to the servant, Go out into the highways and along the hedgerows and force them to come in, I want my house to be full, but I tell you that not one of those invited shall taste a morsel of my dinner. (MAT 22)
NAB2 MAT 21:33

“Hear another parable. There was a landowner who planted a vineyard, put a hedge around it, dug a wine press in it, and built a tower. Then he leased it to tenants and went on a journey. When vintage time drew near, he sent his servants to the tenants to obtain his produce. But the tenants seized the servants and one they beat, another they killed, and a third they stoned. Again he sent other servants, more numerous than the first ones, but they treated them in the same way. Finally, he sent his son to them, thinking, ‘They will respect my son.’ But when the tenants saw the son, they said to one another, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and acquire his inheritance.’ They seized him, threw him out of the vineyard, and killed him. What will the owner of the vineyard do to those tenants when he comes?” They answered him, “He will put those wretched men to a wretched death and lease his vineyard to other tenants who will give him the produce at the proper times.” Jesus said to them, “Did you never read in the scriptures:
‘The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; by the Lord has this been done, and it is wonderful in our eyes’? Therefore, I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people that will produce its fruit. (The one who falls on this stone will be dashed to pieces; and it will crush anyone on whom it falls.)” When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they knew that he was speaking about them.
And although they were attempting to arrest him, they feared the crowds, for they regarded him as a prophet.

NAB2 MAT 23:29

Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites. You build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the memorials of the righteous, and you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have joined them in shedding the prophets’ blood.’ Thus you bear witness against yourselves that you are the children of those who murdered the prophets; now fill up what your ancestors measured out! You serpents, you brood of vipers, how can you flee from the judgment of Gehenna? Therefore, behold, I send to you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and pursue from town to town, so that there may come upon you all the righteous blood shed upon earth, from the righteous blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. Amen, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how many times I yearned to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her young under her wings, but you were unwilling! Behold, your house will be abandoned, desolate.

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NAB2 LUK 19:38

They proclaimed: “Blessed is the king who comes in the name of the Lord. Peace in heaven and glory in the highest.” Some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, rebuke your disciples.” He said in reply, “I tell you, if they keep silent, the stones will cry out!”As he drew near, he saw the city and wept over it, saying, “If this day you only knew what makes for peace—but now it is hidden from your eyes. For the days are coming upon you when your enemies will raise a palisade against you; they will encircle you and hem you in on all sides. They will smash you to the ground and your children within you, and they will not leave one stone upon another within you because you did not recognize the time of your visitation.” Then Jesus entered the temple area and proceeded to drive out those who were selling things, saying to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of thieves.’” And every day he was teaching in the temple area. The chief priests, the scribes, and the leaders of the people, meanwhile, were seeking to put him to death, but they could find no way to accomplish their purpose because all the people were hanging on his words.
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