Is it ok to have a statue in your house?

[1611AV]

I'm just not privileged enough, I guess.

And how did you know I live in a trailorhome?!

The smoking Nuns know all!

 

[Unashamed Jesus Freak]

The smoking Nuns know all!

Busted!

What on earth are we talking about anyway?

Good grief.

We need to really get back on topic before we's get into some trouble.

 

[Rick Otto]

She's right.
Is it OK to have a statue of Ronald McDonald in your house?

 

[Unashamed Jesus Freak]

She's right.
Is it OK to have a statue of Ronald McDonald in your house?

As long as you don't bow down and pray to him or worship him. I guess it would be OK.

But why in the world would anyone want a statue of Ronald McDonald in their house? He's just creepy. :o

 

[Thekla]

But why in the world would anyone want a statue of Ronald McDonald in their house? He's just creepy. :o

True, dat !!!

 

[Fireinfolding]

I never heard in all my time here something like "true, DAT!!" coming from Thelka

Shes always very studious, proper, quiet unless she must speak on the facts.

Not into ol'ronny mc'd huh?

I think he's creepy too

 

[Unashamed Jesus Freak]

 

[tadoflamb]

Its GROWING Tad???

Yes, it's very nice.

I'll take a picture of myself kneeling before it and show you.

 

[blessedmomof5]

Fireinfolding
What a real lesson i learned here i knew all that already but to see you lay it out the way you did was time consuming i am sure,but i have been awed by it. Thank you so much for this post and others you have done. they are inspiring. i look forward to watching for your posts. I can see you are truly doing this out of Love, i do not hear any anger what soever in your replies.
God Bless you

Posting these again, reordered and added to. Heres what God is going to to, he said he would feed them with "undertanding" (so they are ignorant concerning something) and even as it pertains to the ark of the covenant itself (which they visited) which he does not want them to do anymore here

Jerm 3:15-16 And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding. And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more.

He is doing this...

Ezek 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

He's sending to them those "with understanding" speaking of the times past of this great ignorance God winked at but God in His mercy wants them to understand even as Paul was sent to touch upon these very things and speaks specifically to the Godhead here

Acts 17:29-30 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent


Its speaking to the same of which Paul just adressed (even here in revelation)

Rev 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:


Making the same references again here...

Duet 29:17 And ye have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them)

Of which things Paul beheld himself and was stirred in his spirit


Here these repented of this ignorance God (at one time winked at) as the apostles preached to them concerning it

Th 1:9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God

As it was said before

2Kings 17:12 For they served idols, whereof the LORD had said unto them,Ye shall not do this thing.

To which John confirms again here...

1John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

Psalm 97:7 Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols: worship him, all ye gods.

Again, as it pertains even to the Godhead


Acts 12:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Which answers to this (as representive of that in "heaven above")

Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth

Which again, if you can catch this in a figure speaks to their" earrings of gold" (below) as it pertains to "obediedience"

Prov 25:12 As an earring of gold, and an ornament of fine gold, so is a wise reprover upon an obedient ear.

And what did the people do in a figure?

Exodus 32:3 And all the people brake off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron.


ALL the people disobeyed (would not hear) "breaking off their earrings of gold" which is as a wise reprover upon an "obedient ear" "turning their ears" away and going their own way ...

Which in a figure shows what they were doing as it pertains to "gold"

Exodus 32:34 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.


Did this please God?
Exodus 32:7And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:


The Lord says to Moses this...
Exodus 32:9 And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people:


Stiffnecked going alongside with those "uncircumcised ears" here (as it pertains to their fathers)

Acts 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

Exodus 13:19 And it came to pass, as soon as he came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf, and the dancing: and Moses' anger waxed hot, and he cast the tables out of his hands, and brake them beneath the mount.

Exodus 32:20 And he took the calf which they had made, and burnt it in the fire, and ground it to powder, and strawed it upon the water, and made the children of Israel drink of it.

As it pertains to the glory of God includes an image made like to corruptible man (as well)

Romans 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Which also includes an image made like unto "corruptible man" (upon the earth) as does equally so in the golden calf (a fourfooted beast) in regards to "that is in the earth"

Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is inthe earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth

And that equaly so which pertains to the Godhead (in heaven above) after the graven art of mans device here

Acts 12:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.


Ever notice that all are adressed in the above (as in the image of any likeness in heaven and on earth) save that which comes up out of the sea and that which comes up out of the earth save that which speaks to these in revelation?

Ever notice that? These two within the same commandment are not shown save in revelation itself

Its interesting because it says this here...

Jerm 51:7 Every man is brutish by his knowledge; every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them.

Though in revelation it does speak of they should make an image to the beast,

and yet here ...

Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Which is sorta kool that both previous (pertaining to images we ought not make are followed by these two) as we...

or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth



And theres that which cometh up out of the sea and that which cometh out of the earth in revelation in accordance with such images

So images appears to be spoken of throughout scripture

As many who would not "worship" the image (of the above) under the definition says...

1) to kiss the hand to (towards) one, in token of reverence
2) among the Orientals, esp. the Persians, to fall upon the knees and touch the ground with the forehead as an expression of profound reverence
3) in the NT by kneeling or prostration to do homage (to one) or make obeisance, whether in order to express respect or to make supplication
a) used of homage shown to men and beings of superior rank
1) to the Jewish high priests
2) to God
3) to Christ
4) to heavenly beings
5) to demons.

Rev 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen,I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.

Rev 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Fireinfolding
What a real lesson i learned here i knew all that already but to see you lay it out the way you did was time consuming i am sure,but i have been awed by it. Thank you so much for this post and others you have done. they are inspiring. i look forward to watching for your posts. I can see you are truly doing this out of Love, i do not hear any anger what soever in your replies.
God Bless you

Well Praise God blessedmomof5 and God bless you too. Im glad you got something from the scriptures on this sis, and I'm glad I didnt come across angry because Im not angry at all, I'm just interested how these things can be shown in a patern expressed in various ways throughout scripture is all.

 

[Fireinfolding]

I cant believe you found that creepy little clown lol

 

[Fireinfolding]

Yes, it's very nice.

I'll take a picture of myself kneeling before it and show you.

I'll pass on that Tadster but thanks for the offer bro

 

[Rick Otto]

Fireinfolding
What a real lesson i learned here i knew all that already but to see you lay it out the way you did was time consuming i am sure,but i have been awed by it. Thank you so much for this post and others you have done. they are inspiring. i look forward to watching for your posts. I can see you are truly doing this out of Love, i do not hear any anger what soever in your replies.
God Bless you

I would like to join that chorus, mom.

Fire, if I remember correctly, doesn't the beast represent human government & the woman (in Rev.) riding it represent false religion? Something resonated strongly as I read that whole post & I flashed on something, bui this antsy puppy & thought of Ronald gettin' dissed combined with Thekki's street lingo has my head spinninin' just a little. (The Hennesey has nuthin' to do w/it! hic)
So, doesn't everybody 'get' that Jesus was treated like a red-headed step child? Ever seen or even heard of Ronald having parents? Ever seen Him age?

Maybe this is just making him seem even creepier... I'll let it go, I don't need to be lone voice in the wilderness on yet another high impact topic.

 

[Fireinfolding]

I would like to join that chorus, mom.

Fire, if I remember correctly, doesn't the beast represent human government & the woman (in Rev.) riding it represent false religion? Something resonated strongly as I read that whole post & I flashed on something, bui this antsy puppy & thought of Ronald gettin' dissed combined with Thekki's street lingo has my head spinninin' just a little. (The Hennesey has nuthin' to do w/it! hic)
So, doesn't everybody 'get' that Jesus was treated like a red-headed step child? Ever seen or even heard of Ronald having parents? Ever seen Him age?

Maybe this is just making him seem even creepier... I'll let it go, I don't need to be lone voice in the wilderness on yet another high impact topic.

And how on earth am I to respond to this?

Since we are on the topic of creepy...Sometimes you can creep me out

 

[Rick Otto]

Is beast government or what

 

[Fireinfolding]

Is beast government or what

You can be a beast (busting your chops bro) lol

Shows men given the heart of a beast, God manifesting men as beasts, kingdoms of beasts and a seat of a beast.

Is there put any differnce between a kingdom and a government?

 

[Rick Otto]

I'm not sure, but I'm gettin' the picture of the end times apostacy being so huge that it has to be of a huge amount of congregants, necessitating an inside job in an institution with a hierarchy so large that the leaders are vulnerable to isolation, insularity, and a disconnection with life of the man in the pew as well as lower echelons of clergy. I don't want to just be entertaining paranoid delusions, but false religion riding the back of government suggests corruption in the highest levels of each. Which makes sense when wondering how institutions that are too big to fail, do so.

 

[Fireinfolding]

I'm not sure, but I'm gettin' the picture of the end times apostacy being so huge that it has to be of a huge amount of congregants, necessitating an inside job in an institution with a hierarchy so large that the leaders are vulnerable to isolation, insularity, and a disconnection with life of the man in the pew as well as lower echelons of clergy. I don't want to just be entertaining paranoid delusions, but false religion riding the back of government suggests corruption in the highest levels of each. Which makes sense when wondering how institutions that are too big to fail, do so.

Lots of things (thought to be) to big to fail are failing nowadays huh?

I'm not much into politics myself but in the political arena I do believe some governments have a tendency to throw the religious a bone or two either quiet them down (gain their votes) or for some other purpose (noble or otherwise) which might ensure their longevity. Men easily reccognize a gain to be had and utililize that gain to their advantage.

Though Im not one to discuss that government stuff anymore because I get sick to my stomache. I just gotta keep my eyes upward or that yucky feeling in my gut returns (and hate that) ever get that?

 

[christianmomof3]

Depends on what they are there for and what you are doing with them

I did not read all of the replies, but I agree with this one.

Leviticus 26:1 You shall not make for yourselves idols, nor shall you raise up for yourselves a graven image or a pillar, nor shall you place a stone figure in your land to bow down to it for I am Jehovah your God.

If you look at every example in the Bible of the words "graven image", it always refers to something that was prayed to - not merely a statue. It is not the statue itself that is the problem, it is bowing down to a statue and praying to it that is against God's will.
So you can have statues of whatever you please as long as you do not bow down to them and pray to them.

Isaiah 2:8 And their land is full of idols; They bow down to the work of their hands, to that which their fingers have made.

 

[MrPolo]

and praying to it that is against God's will.

No Catholic/Orthodox or any Christian should be praying TO a statue. FYI.