It's Grace, not because there is nothing worth saving. It's Grace because there is nothing that we can do to make God saves us but He did so, because He created us and loves us.
We are not made in Adam's image. We are made in God's image.
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
Original sin wounded that image. The image is not a different image. We are still created in God's image and original sin wounds that image.
Our image does not change when we are born again. Our image is healed and becomes like image that God intended for us.
Now your talking about 2 different things. Original sin and sin.
No we are not made into something different. God already made us in His image. He did not and does not remake us again. When He comes again and we rise up we will be as Adam and Eve were and as Jesus is now. We will be His image as He intended it to be. We will not be remade into something different. Rather we will become fully human. How we were before Adam and Eve sinned and how Jesus is now.
Sin is a wound to be healed. Jesus sat with sinners and tax collectors, because the healthy do not need a Dr.
Jesus besides being God is also human. He became Human like us to saves us. Human nature is not totally fallen.
It's not the Scriptures but one verse. Which Is being taken out of context.
It's Grace, not because there is nothing worth saving. It's Grace because there is nothing that we can do to make God saves us but He did so, because He created us and loves us.
I am not sure if you get it . . . charis/grace is "Gods unmerrited favor" . . . this means that there is NOTHING IN US THAT MERRITS WHAT HE HAS DONE . . . ERGO, there is NOTHING IN US WORTH SAVING. That is the concept of SINNER.
We are not made in Adam's image. We are made in God's image.
Biblically the only people made in the image of God are Adam and Eve. SHow me more . . . THEY were made in the image and likeness of God . . . we are cast in their shadows.
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
Proof positive . . . who is "they" . . . the antecedant is NOT ALL OF HUMANITY but ADAM AND EVE. No dice.
Original sin wounded that image. The image is not a different image. We are still created in God's image and original sin wounds that image.
Again, God is perfect, and the moment that the image is marred, it CEASES TO BE ANY IMAGE OF GOD BECAUSE GOD IS PERFECT and the image is NOT. That is logic.
There is no such thing as a "fallen image of God" . . .
Our image does not change when we are born again. Our image is healed and becomes like image that God intended for us.
K, you can argue with Paul
Eph 2:1-4
And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.
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Here we have the clear didactic teaching of the greatest mind in the NT (aside from Christ) that the NATURE of the fallen is CHANGED and that state is DEATH, from which WOUND cannot be construed. Sorry.
Now your talking about 2 different things. Original sin and sin.
Uh no. That passage IS about original sin . . . no dice. Original sin creates one being born into a STATE OF DEATH. Sorry.
No we are not made into something different. God already made us in His image. He did not and does not remake us again.
WHAT?! Ok, so then this:
1 John 3:2
2 Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will belike Him,
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Is a lie? Sorry, but the teaching is that WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT WE WILL BE. But we know what Adam was, and what the image of God in Adam prior to the Fall was. Sorry dude, but your posits just dont hold to the entirety of the Scriptures.
When He comes again and we rise up we will be as Adam and Eve were and as Jesus is now. We will be His image as He intended it to be.
Wow, ur logic doesnt hold. Did Adam and Eve have a redeemed blood bought unity with God? NOPE. Sorry, I dont think you have really thought about the logic in the steps here brother . . . what we will be is MORE than Adam and Eve EVER had. Your "as He intended it to be" completely disregards Gods sovereignty as if the snake deceiving Eve caught God off guard. Sorry, Eden was NOT how God INTENDED IT TO BE . . . it was what He intended it to be AT THAT MOMENT, but Jesus being chosen BEFORE THE creation to DIE as the LAMB shows is that God's INTENT INCLUDES THE FALL. ERGO, what He intends is BEYOND ANYTHING THAT EDEN AND ADAM EVER WAS. Sorry.
Sin is a wound to be healed. Jesus sat with sinners and tax collectors, because the healthy do not need a Dr.
So you take a figure of speech meant to illustrate need and derive from it a concept of exactly what sin is? Bad hermeneutics bro. Read Eph 2 again.
Jesus besides being God is also human. He became Human like us to saves us. Human nature is not totally fallen.
No Jesus did not become Human like us . . . he became Human LIKE ADAM PRIOR TO THE FALL because He needed to succeed where Adam did not. That is Pauls entire teaching in Romans 5
Rom 5:18-20
19 For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous.
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Jesus obeys where Adam did not (read the chapter dude in the phrasiology of "the one" verse "the one")
There is sin in us but concerning Christ:
1 John 3:5
5 You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and
in Him there is no sin.
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It's not the Scriptures but one verse. Which Is being taken out of context
Not the context? Bro, Paul is teaching on the universality of sin for the universal NEED for Jesus . . . that is perfectly within the context.
Your points dont hold heremeneutically, systematically nor exegetically.
