Catholics-Muslims spiritually united?

[simonthezealot]

FIRST let me state this....I consider Islam a religion of the DEVIL.
So while i was perusing some of B16's stuff i noticed him quoting good ole JP2 where i came across a comment that struck me as very odd, i'd love to hear what you guys think of this.

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3. My brothers, when I think of this spiritual heritage and the value to man and society, in its ability to provide mainly young people an orientation of life, to fill the void left by materialism, to give secure foundation to the same social and legal system, I wonder if it will become urgent, precisely today when Christians and Muslims have entered a new period of history, recognize and develop the spiritual bonds that unite us, so that " defend and promote together as the Council invites us to all men, social justice, moral values, peace and freedom "(Nostra Aetate, ibid.).

 

[laconicstudent]

Probably just referring to the fact that Islam is also a Abrahamic religion.

 

[simonthezealot]

Probably just referring to the fact that Islam is also a Abrahamic religion.

Recognizing Abraham without Isaac and Jacob is not recognizing the one and the same Abraham...
Even if it were how does that spiritually bind?

Our God is tri-unity in person-hood? Where can the spiritual bind of unity be?

 

[boswd]

This place is just getting dumber and dumber.

Seriously

 

[wannabeadesigirl]

Muslims also believe that we (Christians and Jews alike) worship Allah, but we haven't realized it yet.
There's also the fact that of the world religions only 3 are monotheistic: Islam, Christianity and Judaism. In that way then yes we're spiritually similar

 

[simonthezealot]

[17:111] And proclaim: "Praise be to GOD, who has never begotten a son, nor does He have a partner in His kingship, nor does He need any ally out of weakness," and magnify Him constantly.


COMPARED TO:
1 John 4:14 (King James Version)


14And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

 

[laconicstudent]

Recognizing Abraham without Isaac and Jacob is not recognizing the one and the same Abraham...
Even if it were how does that spiritually bind?

Our God is tri-unity in person-hood? Where can the spiritual bind of unity be?

I don't know. I was only explaining what the Pope was probably referring to.

 

[laconicstudent]

There's also the fact that of the world religions only 3 are monotheistic: Islam, Christianity and Judaism. In that way then yes we're spiritually similar

Your forgetting about the Zoroastrians.


mmmmmm.... Ahura Mazda.

 

[simonthezealot]

Muslims also believe that we (Christians and Jews alike) worship Allah, but we haven't realized it yet.
There's also the fact that of the world religions only 3 are monotheistic: Islam, Christianity and Judaism. In that way then yes we're spiritually similar

It says spiritually UNITED though.

 

[simonthezealot]

This place is just getting dumber and dumber.

Seriously

If you have nothing to add why comment,SERIOUSLY? As the OP i am asking you kindly to please refrain from this.

 

[boswd]

You are right Simon I now see the Light, The Pope and Mohammed are in Kahoots to rule the world and unleash Satan ( though I don't know what happend when a Muslim tried to kill JPII)

But thank you for showing me the way of all the evilness and how they are really one of the same.

And to think I thought all the SDA's claims were fanatical.

silly me

 

[simonthezealot]

For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

 

[simonthezealot]

You are right Simon I now see the Light, The Pope and Mohammed are in Kahoots to rule the world and unleash Satan ( though I don't know what happend when a Muslim tried to kill JPII)

But thank you for showing me the way of all the evilness and how they are really one of the same.

And to think I thought all the SDA's claims were fanatical.

silly me

What here is fanatical?
I simply stated islam is a religion of satan, what could be the spiritual bind that unites between a "christian" religion and islam.

 

[laconicstudent]

What here is fanatical?
I simply stated islam is a religion of satan, what could be the spiritual bind that unites between a "christian" religion and islam.

I dunno. Are you actually expecting someone to argue with you over a statement made 31 years ago?

 

[boswd]

What here is fanatical?
I simply stated islam is a religion of satan, what could be the spiritual bind that unites between a "christian" religion and islam.

what is fanatical is that because you proclaim it's from Satan that it is ACTUALLY true to be from Satan. Simpley because you proclaim it.

That is fanatical.

I think Islam took a right when it should have taken left and there have extremeist in it. But I have Muslims friends at work and the Islam they follow is not of Satan nor is it the same Islam of the extreamists.

Again I don't agree with their faith, But Idon't agree that the Jews reject Christ nor do I believe the faith of the JW's and LDS. But I don't think they are of Satan either. Just took a right when they should have taken a left.

And anyone who does love each other I do feel spirtiuall united.

To proclaim anyone who disagrees with you from Satan is fanitatical

 

[LiturgyInDMinor]

No they are not united
OR Islam isn't "of the devil"
OR both.

Hmmm.

 

[simonthezealot]

I dunno. Are you actually expecting someone to argue with you over a statement made 31 years ago?

Well B16 quoted JP2 on this very item in past couple years, so apparently it is relevant.

 

[simonthezealot]

what is fanatical is that because you proclaim it's from Satan that it is ACTUALLY true to be from Satan. Simpley because you proclaim it.

That is fanatical.

I think Islam took a right when it should have taken left and there have extremeist in it. But I have Muslims friends at work and the Islam they follow is not of Satan nor is it the same Islam of the extreamists.

Again I don't agree with their faith, But Idon't agree that the Jews reject Christ nor do I believe the faith of the JW's and LDS. But I don't think they are of Satan either. Just took a right when they should have taken a left.

And anyone who does love each other I do feel spirtiuall united.

To proclaim anyone who disagrees with you from Satan is fanitatical

I'm starting to question your perspective on the true God...

What do you think Christ meant when He said, "He who is not with Me is against Me"?

Does this sound as simple as a left turn?
From their book of Sura
"Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by his messenger, and follow not the religion of truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low"

How bouts this?

"The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims kill them."

or this?

"Oh Muslim, Oh servant of Allah, here is a Jew hiding behind me. Come here and kill him."

 

[boswd]

I'm starting to question your perspective on the true God...

What do you think Christ meant when He said, "He who is not with Me is against Me"?

Does this sound as simple as a left turn?
From their book of Sura
"Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by his messenger, and follow not the religion of truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low"

How bouts this?

"The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims kill them."

or this?

"Oh Muslim, Oh servant of Allah, here is a Jew hiding behind me. Come here and kill him."

Please do not post extremist quotes and pass them off as a whole. You do this way too often.

and you quesiton me on my Faith?

Hmm you try to divide Christians, you try to pit one Christian against the next.

So what would Satan do? Try and divide Christians?

you have a nice one Simon.

I truely hope you don't have a gun permit

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

*snip*

FIRST let me state this....I consider Islam a religion of the DEVIL.
So while i was perusing some of B16's stuff i noticed him quoting good ole JP2 where i came across a comment that struck me as very odd, i'd love to hear what you guys think of this...

How about this one?

John 8:44 "Ye out of a father the Devil are, and the desires of the father of ye, ye are willing to be doing...."

Besides, the Muslims are a lot closer to Jesus than are the unbelieving Jews today I would think

http://www.christianforums.com/t5615012/
Jesus Christ, was he sent for all mankind?

quote OP:

Hello.We muslims believe he was sent to the sons of Israel not for all mankind.This doesnt mean the one who follows Him in real does a wrong job but this is God's plan for He sent Muhammed-aleyhissalam-to all mankind.
Which proofs do christians have to claim that Jesus was sent to entire humanity and not only to the israelites?