Big Mouth Nana
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Well of course we meet the Lord in the air when He comes on the cloudsIt is a fact that we do at least rise up to the clouds in the air, and the Word says that Philip. 3:20 (KJV)
For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ:
Notice the key word there...reserved? That means that it is waiting for us. That still doesn't point to us going to it. It comes to us as is clearly stated in scripture.That we have 1 Peter 1:4 (KJV)
To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
Let me see if I understand you here? Are you saying that "our new bodies" are going to be mansions? If you believe this, then you are way wrong lol!!! None of us are going to have gates, streets paved with gold, foundations, and huge pearls hanging off of our new bodies LOL!!!!I have no problem that we MIGHT not be going to heaven but the "mansions" were explained in the gift and that is my point.
The "mansion" is what the soul and spirit reside in after we put off this tabernacle
LOL!!! Jerry, I find this tantamount to the bible telling us that there is an Antichrist coming, but He doesn't give us any physical description...which He didn't. We accept the Antichrist part coming anyway lol!!! He told us that the New Jerusalem will descend FROM HEAVEN, but you don't accept that being our heavenly Jerusalem just because no mansions are mentioned inside of it ..FUNNY!!! Did He not say that in my Fathers house are many mansions? That should be good enough as proof right there with everything else that the bible states about the New Jerusalem. I have a feeling that you look at heaven as some "ethereal" place unlike the earth. It's not that way, but actually almost a carbon copy but without modern convenience's and sin like we have here....going to be PERFECT. In the New J we won't need these things because we will be like HIM. It has trees, a river flowing through it, the nations will flow to it and enter through those gates. Gee, Jesus is even going to have a drink of wine with us...Matt 26:29 ~ But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Fathers Kingdom. Do you think that God sits up in heaven on His Throne drinking a nice goblet of Chardonnay lol? NO!! God is ALL Spirit. Jesus became like man but without sin and is going to reign on the earth from the New Jerusalem...with us.2 Peter 1:13-14 (KJV)
Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance; [14] Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.
I quote this because it is even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.
So no amount of exegesis is going to ADD mansions to the glory of the New Jerusalem without adding to the Revelation, that is clear and simple
The building plans are precises and have no margin of error in them, IF it were as you believe, then they would be spoken of, they are not, so it is as it is.
Well, you are going to be surprised when it decends and it's your homeThese are the things that we know about the New Jerusalem, not palatial buildings made for our repose.
I agree with being with the Lord as the most important aspect of all of this...but He does expect each of us to know the truth. If He didn't, He wouldn't have added the New Jerusalem to His Word. It's like your thinking is, as long as I believe that the raptured Saints are in Rev 7 and I don't believe that the New Jerusalem is going to be my eternal home, I'm fine.....2 Tim 2:15 ~ Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.The heaven deal is no biggie as long as we are with our Lord...
If you are believing a lie, it's a deception. God and His Word are One (John 1:1)...do you believe what God said?
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