Doveaman, yes, Adam and Eve did have a very close relationship with God and as we both know, it's impossible to have a relationship with God and not with Jesus
To me, it seemed more like the beginning of a very close relationship since Adam and Eve were not yet Spirit filled and Spirit led, therefore they had no Spirit Life (Life-Everlasting).
So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven (1 Cor 15:45-47).
As far as the verse you sited, it is affirmation that Adam and Eve had been eating of the Tree of Life until their first sin. No longer would they be allowed to live forever, so the Tree of Life suddenly was denied them.
So they had been living forever until "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil". That was the tip-off that man had to leave the Garden, once having lost Life-Everlasting.
I find it strange how anyone can have “Life-Everlasting” and lose it. Isn’t “Life-Everlasting” a life that last forever? Doesn’t “Life-Everlasting” mean you live forever? How can you lose a life that last forever if you already have Everlasting-Life?
It is most vividly clear, Mr. Doveaman, that the counting of Adam's years didn't start until the day he ate of the forbidden tree.
I also find it strange that “Adam's years didn't start until the day he ate of the forbidden tree” when the bible clearly states that “
When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son” (Gen 5:3).
If “
Adam had lived 130 years” then Adam
had lived to 130 years from the moment he
had lived, from the very moment he was
created from dust and
life was breathed into him so he could
live.
I often see more with my heart than Eschatology can permit.
Well, just remember this while you are at it:
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it? (Jer 17:9).
My point is that if there is no scripture to support our belief it can easily lead to deception.
as I have clearly set before you, the first day of 1,000 man-years started at the instant of man's first sin, having no longer access to the Life Everlasting Tree of Life!
Even if this was true and Christ Resurrection-Salvation did indeed occur 3,500 years later (3 ½ God-days, or a time and times and half a time), as my theory suggests, then 2,000 years later, the year 2027AD, would only be 5,500 years (5 ½ God-days) from man’s first sin, with another 500 years to go before the 6th God-day ends and the 7th God-day begins in the year 2527AD.
Consider the history of the Children of Israel:
The children of Israel lived in Egypt for 430 years (
Exo 12:40-41).
Joseph became governor in Egypt when he was 30 years old (
Gen 41:46).
The rest of the children of Israel came to live in Egypt soon after Joseph became governor (
Gen 45:9-10).
Joseph’s governorship lasted for 80 years until he died at the age of 110 (
Gen 50:26).
Soon after Joseph died the children of Israel were enslaved in Egypt (
Exo 1:6-11).
Of those 430 years in Egypt the children of Israel lived in freedom under Joseph for about 80 years.
And of those 430 years in Egypt, after Joseph died, the children of Israel lived in slavery for the remaining 350 years (a time and times and half a time) until they were delivered by God through Moses.
That is 80 years in freedom + 350 years in slavery = 430 years in Egypt.
The children of Israel lived in slavery for about 350 years until they were finally delivered through Moses in the midst of the 4th generation:
Then the LORD said to him (Abraham)
, "Know for certain that your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own, and they will be enslaved and mistreated (for about)
four hundred years.
But I will punish the nation they serve as slaves, and afterward they will come out...In the fourth generation your descendants will come back here..." (Gen 15:13-16).
God intervened in the
fourth generation through Moses to deliver the children of Israel from 350 years of slavery in Egypt.
We know that God delivering the children of Israel through Moses from slavery in Egypt is also a physical type of God delivering the children of Adam through Christ from the slavery of sin:
For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea...
These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come (1 Cor 10:1-11).
In my theory, after Adam sinned his children entered into the slavery of sin for about 3 to 4 of Adam’s generations –
for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation (Ex 20:5) – an Adam generation being 1000 years, or one God-day.
This makes out 3 to 4 of Adam’s generations, then, to be about 3,500 years, or 3 ½ God-days (a
time and
times and
half a time), after which the children of Adam were finally delivered through Christ in the middle of the 4th generation, or 4th God-day:
“For He says: ‘In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you.’ Behold, now is the accepted time (the 4th generation)
; behold, now is the day of salvation (the 4th God-day)
” when
“Messiah shall be cut off (through Death/Resurrection)
, but not for Himself...in the middle of the week...” (2 Cor 6:2, Dan 9:26-27).
Also notice:
In the fourth generation your descendants will come back here, for the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its full measure." (Gen 15:16).
In this way they always fill up the measure of their sins. (1 Thess 2:16).
Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers! (Matt 23:32).
Then the angel who was speaking to me came forward and said to me, "Look up and see what this is that is appearing." I asked, "What is it?" He replied, "It is a measuring basket." And he added, "This is the iniquity of the people throughout the land." (Zech 5:5-6).
It seems to me that there is a
measurement of time in which God allows
sin to run a full course through human iniquity, suffering, and death until the sin has
reached its full measure of time, after which God intervenes to deliver.
In my theory, this
measurement of time is the said 3 ½ periods of time, or a
time and
times and
half a time, which I also believe is connected to “
God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation (for a
time and
times and
half a time)
, but showing mercy to thousands” in the
fourth generation at the end of the said 3 to 4 periods of time.
The LORD said to him (Abraham)
, "Know for certain that your descendants...will be enslaved and mistreated (for a
time and
times and
half a time)
...and afterward they will come out...In the fourth generation your descendants will come back here..." (Gen 15:13-16).
“Behold, now is the accepted time (the 4th generation)
; behold, now is the day of salvation (the 4th God-day)
” (2 Cor 6:2).