If you are a creationist.

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Can't we take a break after giving you guys computers, the telephone, the light bulb, the telegraph, the phonograph, flight, and who knows what all else?
It's like an entire generation takes credit for what their fathers did. Like a trust-fund baby.
To answer your question, no. The world is going to keep moving forward, so it would be wise to stay well-informed, lest we get left behind.
 
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Well, I'm sure if we all did that, nothing else would get done --- would it?

Well, I didn't have to work yesterday or today. If we all cared more about the sciences than rotting our brains with pop culture entertainment, I think a lot more stuff would get done.

I wonder how many people will live longer today because surgeons cared more about their patients than they did the Hubble Space Telescope?

I wonder how many people could live longer today if preachers cared more about the obesity epidemic than gay marriage?

Oh wait, to become a surgeon you have to study biology and evolution! Oh noes!

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(By the way --- how did it break in the first place?)

Cabal, some instruments did break. The Wide Field Camera 2 has a failed powerbox. Three of the six gyroscopes are broken. The crew will be installing a Wide Field Camera 3, a cosmic origins spectrograph, a unit that can detect ultraviolet, near-ultraviolet, and infared light, brand new batteries, and a brand new insulating cover. This will be the most work even done on the Hubble, and the last.
Good news is the Hubble lasted 4 years longer than expected and hopefully the ugrades and repairs will make it last at least 4 more!
 
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Well, I didn't have to work yesterday or today. If we all cared more about the sciences than rotting our brains with pop culture entertainment, I think a lot more stuff would get done.



I wonder how many people could live longer today if preachers cared more about the obesity epidemic than gay marriage?

Oh wait, to become a surgeon you have to study biology and evolution! Oh noes!

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Cabal, some instruments did break. The Wide Field Camera 2 has a failed powerbox. Three of the six gyroscopes are broken. The crew will be installing a Wide Field Camera 3, a cosmic origins spectrograph, a unit that can detect ultraviolet, near-ultraviolet, and infared light, brand new batteries, and a brand new insulating cover. This will be the most work even done on the Hubble, and the last.
Good news is the Hubble lasted 4 years longer than expected and hopefully the ugrades and repairs will make it last at least 4 more!


I think the idea was to make some sort of profound religious point about how not everything that everyone makes is perfect and lasts forever with no repair or maintenance.
 
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I'd rather be fat than that.

:doh:The point was that gluttony is a big no-no in the Bible. Obesity is hurting our country more than gay marriage ever will. Obesity will raise our insurance costs, travel costs, and many other costs.
 
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TA - Please fix the horrible quote attributions on your walloftext post, it violates forum policies in its current form, as I didn't write most of that content. Its obvious, though, that you are merely unfamiliar with the reply editor, and didn't intend to falsely attribute your own comments to me. At the end of a quote attribution to someone else, you type [ / quote ] (removing the spaces) to close off a quote section, and begin the next quoted section after your comments with [ quote ] (again, remove the spaces). If you wish to quote the Bible, there are tags for that, too. Check the FAQ for details.

What got you so angry?

Who is angry? I merely called you what you are. It doesn't affect me personally, it merely speaks to your own credibility. So again, given your obvious willingness to repeatedly lie/deceive/misstate what non-Christians believe, why should anyone be inclined to listen to what you have say about non-Christians?

Was it my statement that your missing link will ALWAYS be missing? Read again what your wrote here..." speak with honesty about what others believe?" like you are with what christians believe I guess.
Yes. I try to state with accuracy the position of anybody... but the real salient difference between you and I is that I accept as accurate what they have to say about themselves. You don't.

I was going to throw in a number of your old posts in relation to what you think christians believe, but I didn't.
Please, do. But if you are referring to the "cannibalism" thing, that is simply a parody of typical "ignorance-laden misstatement of others beliefs, with a heavy dollop of hyperbole" when such is offered.

For example, if a Creationist is going to deliberately and deceptively misstate evolution;

Thomas Anderson said:
According to you guys we are just by- products of some accident in the past

then I'll happily parody such deceit by labeling that Creationist a cannibal, and I'll back that label with an inane and myopic misinterpretation of Scripture;

2 Kings 6:29
Jeremiah 19:9
John 6:53-56

So, you can say whatever you want about not being a cannibal. Just realize that whatever you have to say on the topic cannot contradict God's Word... and God tells me through His Word, Creationists are cannibals.

You know what they are. I wont call you a liar though. You have just come to the wrong conclusions about us as maybe some have with you. Do I dare say hypocrite?
If you do, back it with facts, Jack.
 
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Well, I really don't know, MrGoodBytes.

When I say you dislike us for what we are, I'm assuming, based on 3 years of debating, that you guys think Christians should be out:

  1. burning witches & killing gays
  2. crusading & genociding
  3. disproving heliocentrism & a spherical earth


  1. I don't think anyone thinks that's what Christians can or should be, or are doing. However, I think they're raised more often as objections to hardline Gen 1 literalists who are distinctly non-literal when it comes to outright explicit commands. And the point is usually missed, as seen here.

    [*]scaring little children to heck
    [*]harrassing law-abiding citizens on the street
    [*]knocking on doors to tell spook and doomsday stories

    Gets done quite a lot, and there are better ways of spreading the word.

    [*]constantly lying and PRATTing about
    [*]showing hypocrisy by railing against abortion while supporting the death penalty

    Not all Christians, but a lot do.

    [*]getting their diplomas from paper mills
    Have I missed anything?

    Think that's pushing it a bit, I don't think college diplomas are quite widespread enough to warrant that generalisation.....

    I find it interesting that in the face of a specific accusation against you, YET AGAIN, you retort with generalisations to try and support a conspiracy theory rather than examine your own behaviour - in this case, a generalisation of what you think atheists generalise Christians too.

    Can you pull off a third-order generalisation? Because that'd be REALLY impressive!
 
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