If homosexuality is proven to be biological . . .

[Merlin]

Dreaming is not a choice.

sure it is.
and many people learn how.

 

[sk8Joyful]

I can't imagine how "free will" could operate.

Easy, via your own choices, like
what (particularly outside the traditional&mainstream), you choose believing, as possible/potential reality...
and then practice, & make happen - People (like common nay-sayers) will say "I never thought, that could be possible; however did you do this, or that"; and then, you might choose to inspire...

People live like this all the time, have you noticed?

 

[OphidiaPhile]

Easy, via your own choices, like
what (particularly outside the traditional&mainstream), you choose believing, as possible/potential reality...
and then practice, & make happen - People (like common nay-sayers) will say "I never thought, that could be possible; however did you do this, or that"; and then, you might choose to inspire...

People live like this all the time, have you noticed?

Completely unintelligible

 

[hsmommyofmany]

So you agree with me, but i'm still wrong???
WHY does it matter where the child comes from, as long as it is loved? It's the choice of the parents. Even if I was straight, I would have no desire to biologically parent children, simply because that isn't my role in this lifetime.


I didn't say it was perfect yet, I said it was in the trial process:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sciencea...6/Sperm-cells-created-from-female-embryo.html


I just found this, which looks interesting http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/02/calling-jerry-s.html

thanks for the links, i will certainly check them out.

yes i do agree with you but i do not agree with the assumption that just because something is possible that it should be done. there are a lot of things in life that are possible but are still not what God would perfer us to be doing.


1 cor 10:22-24
"Are we trying to arouse the Lord's jealousy? Are we stronger than he? "Everything is permissible"—but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible—but not everything is constructive. Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others."

 

[Garyzenuf]

what?
you can't hold your breath for even 2 seconds?

Ahhh....see now you're talking about not breathing.

*

 

[hsmommyofmany]

You've managed 10-12 years of schooling while having several children by the time you're 33. That's pretty impressive. Talk about living every day to the fullest. Good job.

thanks, yes, i gave up an anatomy teaching career to go to medical school and after much protesting to God gave up my future career in medicine to stay home with my children. i finally gave in to his callling and am much more fullfilled watching my children grow, taking responsibility for their education adn pursuing some of my hobbies with them. some of my children are adopted and i have a set of twins so it is probably not quite as impressive as it sounds

i am very proud of my family and all of my accomplishments (except maybe the quarter million dollars in student loan debt from putting myself through that 12 years of higher ed). thanks for the complement.

 

[roflcopter101]

Jesus is Lord. And Jesus is God.

So why am I not your god?
Worship ME!

Ask again. Call on the name of Jesus and ask Him to show you that He is Lord and Savior.

So I just keep asking and asking until he does?
Why does he feel the need to have this waiting game?
Call on a name?
How can he prove that he is your lord and savior?
And on that topic, what did he do to prove it to you?

 

[roflcopter101]

i am very proud of my family and all of my accomplishments (except maybe the quarter million dollars in student loan debt from putting myself through that 12 years of higher ed). thanks for the complement.

How did you pay off the debt? Do you make enough money to provide a comfortable life for all of your children (including paying for their colleges) while having some left over for taxes and your 401k?

 

[roflcopter101]

sure it is.
and many people learn how.

Such as... who?

 

[hsmommyofmany]

How did you pay off the debt? Do you make enough money to provide a comfortable life for all of your children (including paying for their colleges) while having some left over for taxes and your 401k?

unfortunately we have not paid off the debt yet, we are working on it. we live modestly but my children have everything they need. they certainly live comfortably and are learning about the things that are important in life. i am also working on starting an at home business but will probably be a year before it is off the ground.

my husband was in the military and was permanently disabled (he has a spinal cord injury) so he gets compensation from the VA (very comfortable) and works but has a hard time keeping a job because of his disability. he is not currently working so we are not paying off debt as fast as we would like.

as far as college...my children will go to college the same way i did...they will have to pay for it. we will give them enough to get started (the first few semesters or so) but after that they are on their own. as far as retirement, we have some investments and are working with a financial planner to increase that.

 

[roflcopter101]

I see.

 

[hsmommyofmany]

I see.

something happened to my post...did you read the whole thing...i think the way it was it sounded like i would pay for a few of my children to go to colle...obviously not what i was saying...i corrected it.

 

[cantata]

Easy, via your own choices, like
what (particularly outside the traditional&mainstream), you choose believing, as possible/potential reality...
and then practice, & make happen - People (like common nay-sayers) will say "I never thought, that could be possible; however did you do this, or that"; and then, you might choose to inspire...

People live like this all the time, have you noticed?

Do tell me: what is there between utterly random selection and all of your "choices" being solely the consequence of factors beyond your control?

The way it looks to me is this.

"Cantata! Chocolate or strawberry?"
my past experiences of these two foods + the associations I have with them + my desire to eat healthily + my desire for comfort + my concern about the sourcing of foods + what I have eaten recently + aesthetic appeal + what other people are having + which accompaniments are available + all kinds of other factors of which I am totally unaware =
"Strawberry, please."

I see no room for some mysterious factor in there called "choice" or "free will". Either my "decisions" are made for reasons - which, whatever they are, are ultimately reasons that sway me as a result of things I didn't cause - or they are completely random, in which case they're not under my control either.

Tell me how you make a choice.

 

[Wyzaard]

Completely unintelligible

Much like 'free will'.

 

[roflcopter101]

Much like 'free will'.

I had a sudden urge to quote the Matrix.

 

[sk8Joyful]

You actually don't know whether I'm more educated than you or less educated than you.
Just because you think you are right doesn't make you more educated.

it's not so much "more education" he's got; it boils down to raw EGO --> "i's right, because I say so"

 

[sk8Joyful]

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=50022113#post50022113

Originally Posted by sk8Joyful

Yes,
when you day-dream, you may do so consciously.
when you dream in your sleep, you do so unconsciously. Either way, it's a choice.
​

Yes , and are you saying this is News for you?
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Originally Posted by OphidiaPhile

Dreaming is not a choice.
​

​

Originally Posted by Merlin

sure it is.
and many people learn how.
​

Such as... who?

Individuals who already learned how

 

[OphidiaPhile]

it's not so much "more education" he's got; it boils down to raw EGO --> "i's right, because I say so"

No EGO about it, Ph.D in genetics from UC Berkeley, GO BEARS!

 

[OphidiaPhile]

Originally Posted by sk8Joyful

Yes,
when you day-dream, you may do so consciously.
when you dream in your sleep, you do so unconsciously. Either way, it's a choice.
​

Yes , and are you saying this is News for you?
------------------------------------

Originally Posted by OphidiaPhile

Dreaming is not a choice.
​

Originally Posted by Merlin

sure it is.
and many people learn how.
​

Individuals who already learned how

As usual no cognitive science to back it up.

 

[Braunwyn]

thanks, yes, i gave up an anatomy teaching career to go to medical school and after much protesting to God gave up my future career in medicine to stay home with my children. i finally gave in to his callling and am much more fullfilled watching my children grow, taking responsibility for their education adn pursuing some of my hobbies with them. some of my children are adopted and i have a set of twins so it is probably not quite as impressive as it sounds

Well, if anyone should home school, it should be you.

i am very proud of my family and all of my accomplishments (except maybe the quarter million dollars in student loan debt from putting myself through that 12 years of higher ed). thanks for the complement.

I know how hard it is to choose between family and career passion. Family won out for me as well. My SIL managed quite a bit of schooling at a young age. She finished her MA by the time she was 22. I wish I was so focussed at that age lol.