*** 11th fact *** about GOD - revealed by the LAST End Time Prophet Matt Marriott

[juvenissun]

hey, we agree.


So what is Matt Marriott using?
Formal logic, informal, traditional, modern?

Enlighten us lowly beings who cannot grasp it on our own, o Matt.

So, you pick up one and I will explain the logic to you. I am not kidding.

 

[juvenissun]

To make it short:
The 11th fact is an extension of the 10th fact, i.e.
10. God created Humans without the capacity to have ANY glimpse into the HOW for ANY of those nine facts...

... until the History of End Times begun.

Would this still be in the content of number 10? Just like what you said, it is an extension, but is not a new one.

I hope Matt will come back to say something.

 

[MaxP]

So, you pick up one and I will explain the logic to you. I am not kidding.

Wow, I would respond if I knew what the hell you were saying.
I see "pick" and "one" so will pick one of the logic systems behind matt's "conclusions":
Informal Logic.

 

[MaxP]

Any major religion is a perfect logic system. How come you do not see that? There are definitions, assumptions, derivations, consequences, and conclusions in all of them.

By definition, no "logic system" is perfect, but is simply a means for discerning truth. Whatever gets us to truth the fastest is "perfect," but not all major religions can be so, considering they all disagree as to that truth.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

11th fact about GOD - revealed by the LAST End Time Prophet Matt Marriott
10 KEY facts about God, known ever since Day 1, were maximally reduced first time by the LAST End Times Prophet, Matt Marriott. (1)

Two years later and yet nobody was able to state what the eleventh FACT is.

Christmas 2008 - the time for the last chance to let you state it. If that will not be the case until December 31 2008, it MUST NOW be revealed by End Times Prophet, may GOD will.

Notes
(1) http://who-god-is.blogspot.com/2007/...ver-since.html

(2) http://end-times-history.blogspot.co...-trenches.html

End Times Prophet, how do you get that job, did you have to apply for it or may be answer an add in the Heaven and Hell daily Job Journal or maybe you were appointed but I really do want to know how you became the last End Times Prophet.

 

[Washington]

End Times Prophet, how do you get that job, did you have to apply for it or may be answer an add in the Heaven and Hell daily Job Journal or maybe you were appointed but I really do want to know how you became the last End Times Prophet.

Ain't all that hard.

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[juvenissun]

By definition, no "logic system" is perfect, but is simply a means for discerning truth. Whatever gets us to truth the fastest is "perfect," but not all major religions can be so, considering they all disagree as to that truth.

Why is the imperfection a part in the definition of logic?

 

[juvenissun]

Wow, I would respond if I knew what the hell you were saying.
I see "pick" and "one" so will pick one of the logic systems behind matt's "conclusions":
Informal Logic.

Pick one out of the 10 facts he listed. I will explain it to you why is it a logic conclusion.

Clear enough?

 

[MoonLancer]

can you explain how they are falsifiable instead? otherwise its junk like all the 'other' unfalsifiable claims

 

[MaxP]

Why is the imperfection a part in the definition of logic?

Because logic is not a thing that is "perfect" or "imperfect" merely valid or invalid.

 

[MaxP]

Pick one out of the 10 facts he listed. I will explain it to you why is it a logic conclusion.

Clear enough?

There we go. Ummmmmm.... number 10.
The one about how & the like.

 

[MaxP]

Ain't all that hard.

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I am totally going to anoint myself tommorow.

 

[JustMeSee]

Who is MattMariott?

 

[juvenissun]

There we go. Ummmmmm.... number 10.
The one about how & the like.

10. God created Humans without the capacity to have ANY glimpse into the HOW for ANY of those nine facts.

1. God is higher than His creation.
2. His creations know less than God does
3. So #10 is true.

 

[juvenissun]

can you explain how they are falsifiable instead? otherwise its junk like all the 'other' unfalsifiable claims

Not really. Logic is not science. A logically true conclusion can not be falsified.

 

[Jester4kicks]

1. God is higher than His creation.
2. His creations know less than God does
3. So #10 is true.

Please present the logical reasoning for your premises in this statement.

 

[Washington]

Please present the logical reasoning for your premises in this statement.

I think it's pretty clear that juvenissun really doesn't understand what logical reasoning is. So don't hold your breath.

 

[MaxP]

1. God is higher than His creation.
2. His creations know less than God does
3. So #10 is true.

No, actually, your logic is incomplete. We know less than Him, sure, but it does not mean He gave us no possibility of knowing Him.
This is your logic chain, friend:

Penguins are black and white.
Some old TV shows are black and white.
There, Penguins are some old TV shows.

Incomplete.

Actually, the reasoning is:
Premise 1. God is higher than His creation.
Premise 2. God intended His creation to glorify Him.
Premise 3. God created His creation with intellect and will.
Premise 4. Intellect is used to determine things about existence.
Conclusion: God intended intellect and freewill to glorify Him. He would not have created that which had no possibility of knowing Him, and thus no possibility of glorifying Him. Since intellect is used to determine things about existence, the way it glorifies God is by determining things logically about Him. Thus, we can see "how."

 

[MoonLancer]

Not really. Logic is not science. A logically true conclusion can not be falsified.

however, the statement itself should have a possibility to being proven wrong, even if its right. for example. the 10 statements in the link on the op make in incorrect assumption that god even exists. In addition their is no possible of evidence for those kinds of statements to ever show the statements wrong.

HOWEVER, if a chimera was to be discovered, evolution would be falsified. their have been many instances to show evolution wrong. they have failed because evolution is fact.

Statements about god are not based on facts or evidence. I could replace God and instead inject anything to my hearts desire and the statements could not be shown right or wrong. Its whats called unfalsifiable.

If their is no possible evidence that could passably exist (even if it doesn't) its not a statement that deals with facts or reality.

 

[Hespera]

No, actually, your logic is incomplete. We know less than Him, sure, but it does not mean He gave us no possibility of knowing Him.
This is your logic chain, friend:

Incomplete.

Actually, the reasoning is:
Premise 1. God is higher than His creation.
Premise 2. God intended His creation to glorify Him.
Premise 3. God created His creation with intellect and will.
Premise 4. Intellect is used to determine things about existence.
Conclusion: God intended intellect and freewill to glorify Him. He would not have created that which had no possibility of knowing Him, and thus no possibility of glorifying Him. Since intellect is used to determine things about existence, the way it glorifies God is by determining things logically about Him. Thus, we can see "how."

I just never ever could grasp the "logic" of god...you know, the eternal, the all powerful..could be interested in creating these tiny specks of nothing, you know we'd be way less than a virus to him, and we are to what, stroke his ego by "glorifying" him? I cant see how it would do much for me if some ants set out to glorify me.

What could "glorify" even mean in such a context? Its a really really weird concept, to glorify god.