Second Law of Thermodynamics - a creationist puzzle.

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In that case, I vote GOD DID IT, without the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics in operation.
Lets just throw out physics when it suits our beliefs.. even the most fundimental among them. Without the 2nd law, Eve wouldnt have been able to move her muscles to pluck the apple
 
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Because the 2nd Law, also called heat death, tears down God's creation; and He made it clear in Genesis 1 that His creation was made "very good" --- or "perfect" by our standards.
 
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Lets just throw out physics when it suits our beliefs.. even the most fundimental among them. Without the 2nd law, Eve wouldnt have been able to move her muscles to pluck the apple
In ETERNITY FUTURE, will the 2nd Law be in operation?
 
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Because the 2nd Law, also called heat death, tears down God's creation; and He made it clear in Genesis 1 that His creation was made "very good" --- or "perfect" by our standards.
Funny how God made the 2nd law such a fundimental part of his creation.
 
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Because the 2nd Law, also called heat death, tears down God's creation; and He made it clear in Genesis 1 that His creation was made "very good" --- or "perfect" by our standards.

The problem is that nobody with a working brain is going to equate "very good" as being "perfect," so your answer is meaningless.
 
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Because the 2nd Law, also called heat death, tears down God's creation; and He made it clear in Genesis 1 that His creation was made "very good" --- or "perfect" by our standards.
It just states that stuff in a closed system tends to reach equilibrium over time. It doesn't tear it down, it just makes everything neutral after a while. God's creation can be very good without containing batteries that last literally forever.
 
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Because the 2nd Law, also called heat death, tears down God's creation; and He made it clear in Genesis 1 that His creation was made "very good" --- or "perfect" by our standards.
The 2nd law is part of the perfection by God's standards otherwise it wouldnt be here. You think it makes his creation less than perfect, isnt that a bit presumptuous of you?
 
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Because the 2nd Law, also called heat death, tears down God's creation; and He made it clear in Genesis 1 that His creation was made "very good" --- or "perfect" by our standards.

Heat death is only an inevitability in the far future. Right now, the entropy of the universe is increasing, but it is not increasing everywhere in the universe. There are many places where entropy is actually decreasing. A local decrease in entropy does not violate the second law of thermodynamics.
 
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Eventually the useful energy in the universe will run out so yes.
Then why aren't we going to have need of the sun?
Revelation 21:23 said:
And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
 
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Then how did it become so ingrained in the creation? can satan do that? Only the creator can
Entropy isn't something you "ingrain" --- it's just something you let "wind down".

If my memory serves me correctly, the formula for the 2nd Law is:

  • ΔS[sub]universe[/sub]>0
But prior to the Fall, it was simply:

  • ΔS[sub]universe[/sub]=0
 
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The 2nd law is part of the perfection by God's standards otherwise it wouldnt be here. You think it makes his creation less than perfect, isnt that a bit presumptuous of you?
Not at all --- the 2nd Law is very hostile to God's creation.
 
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Heat death is only an inevitability in the far future. Right now, the entropy of the universe is increasing, but it is not increasing everywhere in the universe. There are many places where entropy is actually decreasing. A local decrease in entropy does not violate the second law of thermodynamics.
Entropy anywhere in Genesis 1 would ruin God's creation --- Romans 8 makes it clear that because of entropy, God's creation "groans".
 
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Why then do we not see life spontaneously occurring on the earth?

Good question.

There are two parts to this.

1. You need reducing conditions. Because of the oxygen in our atmosphere and oceans due to photosynthesis, these conditions are rare.

2. Life is already established and will devour any organic molecules before they can develop into proto-life.
 
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Good question.

There are two parts to this.

1. You need reducing conditions. Because of the oxygen in our atmosphere and oceans due to photosynthesis, these conditions are rare.

2. Life is already established and will devour any organic molecules before they can develop into proto-life.
Then again, why can't it be done in a laboratory --- under controlled conditions? Put the ingredients into a Bell Jar, subject the Bell Jar to the sun, and wait.
 
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