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tulc

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The Luo is a culture in Kenya, with about 13% of the population in it. Read the Bible, and you can know that God has been allowing people for the most part to learn the consequences of not having a relationship with him, and instead practicing paganism and the rest, up to a limit of freedom he defines. So Luo people have the option to go the way of paganism, spiritism, islam, or Christianity, but with all the consequences. So it doesn't change the fact that following ritualistic spiritism naming ceremonies will have all the consequences of an ongoing relationship with a so called ancestral juogi demon spirit.

Read a book by Neil T. Anderson, he is a very logical Christian realist who knows all the the facts and circumstances, and consequences of relationship with demons, and he knows what it takes to shake them off if it is a generational curse. To shake them off requires deliberate renouncement of all the elements of the relationship with that spirit, and a firm commitment to vanquish any attachment to the demon due the emeshment with them. It would require like a counter Christian ceremony of prayer where the Christian renounces all the elements, including evemchanging the name of the individual like in the case of Senator O. Imagine being named Senator Beezelbub and realizing that you have a spiritual attachment through that name, and then NOT seeing the benefit of changing your name, kinda says the allegiance to that juogi is more important than relationship to God, doesn't it?

Unlike some Christian authors, Neil T. Anderson explains how even nominal christians can still have emeshment with demons.

So he also believes devils are stronger then God? :scratch:
tulc(is finding this a little difficult to believe) :sorry:
 
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Dear wise guy:

Demons won't leave if you honor them everyday by using their name as your name. Demons will take and keep ground, as the Bible teaches, they want nothing more than lie, deceive, and destroy lives. Demons won't leave if you don't force them to leave. And the Bible teaches they won't stay away from a victim if a victim goes back to entertaining them, and don't learn to guard their hearts against them, and don't fill themselves with the spirit of Jesus Christ.
 
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Dear wise guy:
I'm sorry, but you may have to narrow that down some. It actually describes about 50-60% of everyone who posts here. :sorry:

Demons won't leave if you honor them everyday by using their name as your name. Demons will take and keep ground, as the Bible teaches, they want nothing more than lie, deceive, and destroy lives. Demons won't leave if you don't force them to leave. And the Bible teaches they won't stay away from a victim if a victim goes back to entertaining them, and don't learn to guard their hearts against them, and don't fill themselves with the spirit of Jesus Christ.
Obama isn't using a demons name every day, he's using his name. :)
tulc(and you haven't answered my question) :wave:
 
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I like the militia links on the site. They were very informative as to the milieu in which this story is spread.

Did you notice all of the Terri Shivo books there? Man some people are just more than happy to make money no matter the lies they have to tell.
 
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There was politics being played, but it wasn't by the Obama campaign.


Actually it is politics being played by the Obama campaign. If he truly wanted to visit the troops and not worry about his standing with those funding his campaign, he would've went ahead with no cameras or anything like that.
 
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Any time you are called a bigot for being concerned about why Senator O chose to be a member of a racist church that wants God to damn America, and why he keeps a demonic surname, why he jokes that he expects to become God, why he says he wants to President of the world, you are probably listening to a blind demo desperately trying to cover for their candidate's very grandiose delusions, suspicious beliefs and motivations.

By the way, I would love to see Condolissa Rice become John McCains vice pres pick. In fact, if she would have run, I would have voted for her for Pres.
 
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What kind of crazy word I can't say on CF parent would pass their kid over a crowd that way? These new fangled parents. :doh:
What kind of a moronic I can't say the next adjective on cf candidate would actually accept that happening instead of putting an immediate stop to it? He's reaching for the baby! He's soaking it all up, jerk.

We need one of a bleeding woman grasping for the bottom of his cloak now.

I'd be interested to know why the entire other thread went kaplut.
 
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More seriously.

I have a friend--some other folks here know her, too--who is seriously plagued by demons. You may call it possession or you may call it mental illness. It really doesn't matter which. It still plagues her.

This sort of trivializing, of seeing demonic forces under every stone, really denigrates her very tortured experience.

Saying Barrack Obama's name does not invoke a demon.

Demons are not making people support Barrack Obama.
 
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Voices, you think you hear spirit voices? Well, reading Neil T. Anderson's books on the subject might help...but first go to a psychiatrist, which Mr. Anderson would first recommend. A psychiatrist could prescribe some meds that would help you with auditory hallucinations. Then you be able to think clearly and vote for John McCain.

I am serious, who wants a President controlled by demonic presence, especially a President who says he wants to be President of the world!!!
 
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How do you know demons are influencing Senator O? The indicator is his surname. He got his name through a Luo spiritism naming ritual assigning the name of a juogi who was called "twisted one", and so Senator O got a demonic ancestral spirit, not just a name, but a spirit through his father, his grandfather, and his great grandfather. When you get the name in a spiritism naming ritual, it is understood, it is given that you have the SPIRIT too, according to Luo cultural practices.
 
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I am serious, who wants a President controlled by demonic presence, especially a President who says he wants to be President of the world!!!

...and the proof you have that Obama is controlled by a demonic presence is where? So far you have offered nothing for this claim other then you said so and "Well this is what I've read!". So what should we look for to show demonic activity? :confused:
tulc(praying for CaDans friend) :prayer:
 
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