Prayer Soaking

[merryheart]

Yes, but if you are not open to participating in evil in your day to day decisions, and you guard what you are exposed to, you have no need to fear in waiting for the Lord.

You guys are doing the work of the devil here.

I completely agree with your first sentence, but the 2nd made me go huh??? how is that? are you referring to what i said? you quoted me and then said that, so I must think so.

To my mind, your first sentence is in direct and complete agreement with what I said. We can soak all we like without fear as long as the Spirit of God is what we open our self up to.

 

[pinetree]

Who is?

feofjfgoiolorks is!!

 

[BenAdam]

feofjfgoiolorks is!!

I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[pinetree]

I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yup! aren't i right..yup!

 

[Deba]

There is no such thing as soaking in prayer. The term is not Biblical at all. It is a silly term made up to invoke a certain feeling, a word picture

It is very biblical. Jesus told the woman at the well in John 4 that He was the living water. The River of God in revelations. Waters coming from us to others. The bible is the first to use water as a way of describing the Holy Spirit.

So I think 'soaking prayer' (prayer being communion with God) is a wonderful follow-on descriptive word picture to the word pictures given us in the bible.

 

[merryheart]

There is no such thing as soaking in prayer. The term is not Biblical at all. It is a silly term made up to invoke a certain feeling, a word picture if you will.

You either pray or your don't. How long and what you do while praying needs to be scriptural. If you want to quietly wait on the Lord, that is awesome. If you want to meditate on His word, wonderful. If you want to speak in tongues, great. Just be Biblical in what you do whatever you want to call it.

There is no such thing as the Bible in English at all if you don't accept translation of terms and concepts

 

[RedTulipMom]

Prayer soaking is of the enemy, it's the Kundalini spirit. That is why so many are confused, seduced, and deceived by false teaching and false practices. It's all mysticism.

Read some of these sites. Be aware, beware, and don't be unaware.

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.

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thanks for posting these links. my hubby and i saw soaking prayer on the 700 club a couple weeks ago and something didn't feel right about it

 

[BenAdam]

It is very biblical. Jesus told the woman at the well in John 4 that He was the living water. The River of God in revelations. Waters coming from us to others. The bible is the first to use water as a way of describing the Holy Spirit.

So I think 'soaking prayer' (prayer being communion with God) is a wonderful follow-on descriptive word picture to the word pictures given us in the bible.

That section of scripture deals with thirst and drinking, nothing to do with soaking. The Word is also described as water for washing. I find no mention of soaking or the concept at all in the Bible.

 

[merryheart]

I think the KJV translation would be 'wait' or 'meditate'

 

[BenAdam]

I think the KJV translation would be 'wait' or 'meditate'

waiting and soaking are different things, as are meditating and soaking

 

[merryheart]

waiting and soaking are different things, as are meditating and soaking

I guess that the meaning conferred to "soaking" might depend on the person. Words have no meaning beyond that which we grant them.

 

[BenAdam]

I guess that the meaning conferred to "soaking" might depend on the person. Words have no meaning beyond that which we grant them.

Yes, but is by consensus and not open to randomly assigning any meaning that one wants. If that were so communication would be impossible.

 

[merryheart]

Yes, but is by consensus and not open to randomly assigning any meaning that one wants. If that were so communication would be impossible.

Well - i guess i am not sure then what consensus is for the meaning of soaking, because i get the idea that people are talking at cross purposes with some thinking it means one thing, and some another.

I think it means soaking yourself in His presence - same in my mind as waiting before Him and listening for His voice, and feeling His presence. It includes falling before Him in worship, and allowing yourself to be enfolded in His love.

 

[KleinerApfel]

Well - i guess i am not sure then what consensus is for the meaning of soaking, because i get the idea that people are talking at cross purposes with some thinking it means one thing, and some another.

I think it means soaking yourself in His presence - same in my mind as waiting before Him and listening for His voice, and feeling His presence. It includes falling before Him in worship, and allowing yourself to be enfolded in His love.

That's how I understand it too, and the church that first used the term "soaking" seem to mean that too.

I didn't hear or feel anything when doing it though, but with clinical depression a certain lack of sensing things goes with the territory. Kind of like when you lie on your arm and it goes to sleep because the circulation is impaired.

I suppose I was hoping to take advantage of the corporate anointing there as we worshipped and soaked together to jump start me into being able to feel God's presence. Not working so far...

 

[~RENEE~]

There is nothing wrong with sitting or laying on the floor seeking God. No going after God is NOT of the enemy, or the Kundalini spirit. That IS a lie of Satan being told to God's people to keep them powerless. There is nothing wrong with sutting your trap and listening to the Father for a while. And for one to say otherwise only goes to show they do not understand and are blinded to the truth

 

[merryheart]

That's how I understand it too, and the church that first used the term "soaking" seem to mean that too.

I didn't hear or feel anything when doing it though, but with clinical depression a certain lack of sensing things goes with the territory. Kind of like when you lie on your arm and it goes to sleep because the circulation is impaired.

I suppose I was hoping to take advantage of the corporate anointing there as we worshipped and soaked together to jump start me into being able to feel God's presence. Not working so far...

Praying that you will sense the Spirit of God hovering over you today.

 

[~RENEE~]

1: to lie immersed in liquid (as water) : become saturated by or as if by immersion2 a: to enter or pass through something by or as if by pores or interstices : permeate b: to penetrate or affect the mind or feelings —usually used with in or into
1: to permeate so as to wet, soften, or fill thoroughly
2: to place in a surrounding element (as liquid) to wet or permeate thoroughly
soak implies usually prolonged immersion as for softening or cleansing

So to soak in prayer would be to become saturated with God to the point of cleansing.

 

[LeadWorship]

MH and LIMB, that is also my understanding of it. Also, LIMB, I've personally found that if you have trouble getting into His presence alone, that attempting corporately won't help. Actually, that's what I was talking about when I said the flesh can creep in.

Imagine you desiring so badly to feel what they feel, I'd imagine you'll feel something alright - because you are looking for a feeling (not you, just giving an example). Hagin said the same thing in regards to hearing God. If you desire sooo bad to hear His voice, you may start hearing a voice, and it may not be His. We lose focus of the "why" we are listening, and start to gain focus on "hearing" anything. Vice versa with feeling. That's why it takes great discernment to be able to tell that if the Spirit is moving in people, what is and is not of Him.

For example, a couple weeks ago during our Sunday service, my Pastor felt a strong need to pray over some people. He opened up the altar for those who fit the "need" and began praying, but after a few minutes he noticed people responding in the flesh. He immediately stopped, thanked God for what He was doing, and began sharing the Word. It is so important to keep our leadership in prayer, so they may be keen in discernment. Hallelujah.

 

[He put me back together]

So, after prayer soaking for a while, do your spirit-fingers get wrinkly?

 

[BenAdam]

So, after prayer soaking for a while, do your spirit-fingers get wrinkly?

Pruning in the spirit.