The Atheist Religion of Evolution

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Would you say that modern scientists who don't believe in evolution and believe in creation really don't believe what they find? Or are just ignorant of modern science?

People can be willfully ignorant concerning certain questions in science, and brilliant researchers concerning other questions. One can be a brilliant mathematician for instance, and still be convinced that the Moon landings were faked. That is one reason why appeals to authority are a pretty poor way to argue a case, especially when the authorities in question are from irrelevant areas of expertise.

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Would you say that modern scientists who don't believe in evolution and believe in creation really don't believe what they find? Or are just ignorant of modern science?
I know of at least two who don't believe what they find (Marcus Ross and Kurt Wise).

40% of American scientists believe in a personal God (mostly the Christian version). 0.5 believe in Creationism.

In fact, the number of scientists who believe in Creationism is roughly equivalent to the number of scientists named Steve.

Also, trolling is not a good way to start a serious discussion.
 
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Although I do take some offence to trying to hide the fact that I reject modern science. That's just an ignorant comment. There are many scientists out there with a strong belief in God and a strong belief in creation who would be quite offended at your comment (like Francis Collins, head of the Human Genome project).

If you're offended, be offended at Kent Hovind, since it's apparently his quote. Kent Hovind and creationists of his ilk routinely deny established science in fields ranging from cosmology and physics to archeology and geology and bashes it all under the rubric of "evolution".
 
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"In the beginning God" - Genesis 1:1
"In the beginning dirt" - Evolutionists

Err... your's is the one who's with the dirt origin. 6,000 years ago when you think we were a lump of mud, we think we were already wonderfully evolved.
 
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"In the beginning God" - Genesis 1:1
"In the beginning dirt" - Evolutionists

You took a wrong turning somewhere. The Genesis account goes:

"In the beginning, God, then dirt."

Science goes:

"In the beginning, (or at any rate, as far back as we can work out), squashed energy, then unsquashed energy, then hydrogen and helium, then clouds of gas, then stars, then supernovae, and more stars, then stars and planets, then dirt, then life."

But describing the "beginning" - or in the case of science, a long time ago - does not a religion make.
 
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Would you say that modern scientists who don't believe in evolution and believe in creation really don't believe what they find? Or are just ignorant of modern science?
I hate the use of the word "believe" when applied to a scientific theory. I believe in evolution as much as I believe in cells. Both are theories with a lot of evidence. Although, I tend to equate the word "believe" as meaning 'to accept something without the need for evidence.'

The only mature response to Kent Hovind is uncontrollable laughter.
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I hate the use of the word "believe" when applied to a scientific theory. I believe in evolution as much as I believe in cells. Both are theories with a lot of evidence. Although, I tend to equate the word "believe" as meaning 'to accept something without the need for evidence.'

I kinda hate using the term too (same with "evolutionist") but I'm just too semantically lazy.
 
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I kinda hate using the term too (same with "evolutionist") but I'm just too semantically lazy.

Belief only has to mean "accept as true." Sure, it has a few (not very strong) connotations of religious nature, but in general, if I say, "I believe you," or "I believe that Portugal lies next to Spain," then there are no such implications.
 
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Belief only has to mean "accept as true." Sure, it has a few (not very strong) connotations of religious nature, but in general, if I say, "I believe you," or "I believe that Portugal lies next to Spain," then there are no such implications.
This is true. I just don't like it because it has some religious implications and since there is a PRATT saying the evolution is a religion I want it to be as distant as possible from faith.
 
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"In the beginning God" - Genesis 1:1
"In the beginning dirt" - Evolutionists
You must have missed the portion of your Bible that directs you to not tell untruths. Perhaps you should reread those sections because I have been told God doesn't exactly care for those who lie.
 
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Would you say that modern scientists who don't believe in evolution and believe in creation really don't believe what they find? Or are just ignorant of modern science?
I would say they are ignorant of modern science. Or, that they are putting their religious beliefs ahead of their scientific principles when it comes to the origin of the universe, the Earth, life, etc.
 
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You must have missed the portion of your Bible that directs you to not tell untruths. Perhaps you should reread those sections because I have been told God doesn't exactly care for those who lie.


If creationists didn't lie for jesus they wouldn't have an argument against evolution.
 
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