I was recently humbles ...read on people...I didn't believe it at first.
Well , hasn't GOD humbled me today! Apparently my obtuse comment about shawn boonstra didn't go unnoticed. LO and behold HE added me to his yahoo messenger and I have the text log if anyone would like to see it (HIS personal E-mail is deleted sorry). Doesn't GOD humble us when we cry out for it. Praise GOD
I seen Shawn boonstra and attended a live taping. Arrogant media hog for sure. OOH and I feel anybody promoting "facts" or " it is written" should include "in my opinion" > or as is my interpretation but in reality the guys who wrote the bible or edited it aren't around to sue for plagarism TBH.
Well , hasn't GOD humbled me today! Apparently my obtuse comment about shawn boonstra didn't go unnoticed. LO and behold HE added me to his yahoo messenger and I have the text log if anyone would like to see it (HIS personal E-mail is deleted sorry). Doesn't GOD humble us when we cry out for it. Praise GOD
Shawn and I said:shawnboonstra: Hmm. I've been accused of a lot of things. "Arrogant media hog" is a new one.
OOZE:
OOZE: good grief
OOZE: are you the real shawn boonstra
shawnboonstra: Yessir.
OOZE: wow im honored
shawnboonstra: I suppose I am, too.
OOZE: first impressions can be constructive or destructive
shawnboonstra: Yeah. You didn't make a great one!
OOZE: probably my own attitude problem
shawnboonstra: Okay. I'll take that.
OOZE: arrogant men sometimes can't see past their own arrogance
shawnboonstra: Which taping did you attend? Was it in California or Phoenix?
OOZE: well 1 positive is you do your homework
OOZE: it was in Burlington ontario
shawnboonstra: Yikes - that's years ago.
OOZE: I have issues
shawnboonstra: I haven't taped there in at least 5 years
OOZE: who knows you or did someone just come up to you randomly or do you troll around CF?
shawnboonstra: I was surfing - looked for a number of SDA speakers and found this thread.
OOZE: ok Im the guy who left the taping before it even started
OOZE: crazy but too be honest its nothing personal
shawnboonstra: Was it a special taping or was it for the TV show? I only did one special taping in Burlington.
OOZE: it had a local Adventist church ..hmmm
shawnboonstra: In the chapel at Crossroads studios?
OOZE: yes
shawnboonstra: I remember that taping - I was filling in for a guy who couldn't make it.
shawnboonstra: He was dying of cancer.
OOZE: wow
OOZE: ooh coudos
shawnboonstra: No kudos needed.
OOZE: believe it or not GOD sent you in my life
shawnboonstra: How so?
OOZE: when I prayed I asked GOD to humble me
OOZE: this defiantely is a humbling experience
shawnboonstra: LOL - God has a sense of humor.
OOZE: I think you were young and confidence admired by the crowd and I was just being an ass
shawnboonstra: Don't worry about it. If I were offended, it would make me a small man.
OOZE: reaching out to people and being shunned for my egocentric shizo tendencies is hard
shawnboonstra: Hey - everybody has a little egocentrism. At least all of the sinners do.
OOZE: you know caste systems do develope in a church body i think i was the toilet scum
shawnboonstra: You're right about the caste systems. But I'm not sure I've ever met toilet scum.
shawnboonstra: But maybe I'm one of them, so I can't see it!
OOZE: shawn will you continue to minister to me man
shawnboonstra: Sure.
OOZE: or is this a 1 shot wonder
shawnboonstra: No - if you need help, I'm willing. One of the key problems is that I travel a lot - so I come and go as far as web access.
OOZE: I have alot of insights on christianity you might find new and refreshing
OOZE: I was raised A JEhovahs witness
OOZE: an authority really
shawnboonstra: I take it that you're no longer a JW.
OOZE: I dont celebrate anything but passover and maybe thanksgiving
OOZE: all the rest is idolatry in my eyes
shawnboonstra: Ah. Thanksgiving is our family holiday. It's one of the holidays that makes sense and has some redeeming qualities.
shawnboonstra: Of course, we now have Thanksgiving in November now that I live in the US.
OOZE: you will find my anti-pagan beliefs sensible and refreshing
shawnboonstra: I'm guessing I will.
OOZE: seem you ned to be refreshed by the guy who deemed you arrogant
shawnboonstra: lol
OOZE: pot=kettle=black
shawnboonstra: Are you living in Ontario?
OOZE: If my pastor knew you was typingt o me
OOZE: he would be like why
OOZE: I cant believe it
shawnboonstra: Who's your pastor?
OOZE: yes I live in Hamilton
shawnboonstra: Ah. Is Dan still pastoring there?
OOZE: My pastor was Dan Linrud who basically told me people will cast me off and that JESUS said to cast off people like dirt of their sandals well I think thats a cop-out
shawnboonstra: So it WAS Dan.
OOZE: as a pastor aren't we responsible to keep the flock together
OOZE:
shawnboonstra: To a point, yes.
OOZE: theres only 1 dan linrud isnt there
OOZE:
shawnboonstra: Yeah - I know him. Haven't seen him in years.
OOZE: we had leo schreven come also
shawnboonstra: I know Leo, too - saw him for a few minutes this summer.
OOZE: don't really care about the business pratices I think the ministry should be for eveyone NOT just BIg businesses IT has a seedy unertonme
OOZE: undertone
OOZE: you feeling me on this 1 man
shawnboonstra: Yeah. I'd agree with that.
OOZE: patronizing I thought haha
OOZE: sorry
shawnboonstra: The bit about church is for everyone - but I'm not convinced there's a seedy undertone.
shawnboonstra: At least not where I go to church.
OOZE: i wish you and i reallly met
shawnboonstra: Maybe that could happen some day.
OOZE: If i was not so crazy and hurt by that comment and people just stopped calling me I am totally confused
OOZE: I believe in JESUS and I really feel ill when people pray out loud I always take what JESUS said about praying in private
shawnboonstra: hey - both are OK.
OOZE: I understand you want the person to hear your words but im paranoid
shawnboonstra: There's a place for public prayer, too - see the example of Solomon dedicating the temple. But for key private issues, the prayer closet is the place to go.
OOZE: I never pray out loud
shawnboonstra: Nothing wrong with that.
OOZE: always the LORD prayer
OOZE: nothing else
OOZE: HE knows our hearts
OOZE: so your on downtime right now
OOZE: please forgive me for calling you arrogant man
shawnboonstra: No - I'm in Minneapolis at the GYC convention.
shawnboonstra: And forget about the arrogant thing - I forgave it the moment I read it.
OOZE: I'm glad I did in a sense
shawnboonstra: LOL
OOZE: we would never wood have met
shawnboonstra: All things work together for good...
OOZE: I was dumbfounded and I hardly eVER turn my yahoo on
shawnboonstra: Your forum said you were online right now - so I opened the yahoo account specifically to message you.
OOZE: then all of a sudden I seen your name
OOZE: my names Jonathan BTW
shawnboonstra: I don't normally use Yahoo - I'm a Mac user.
shawnboonstra: Yeah - I guessed that from the forum.
OOZE: whats your home church then
shawnboonstra: I only get there once or twice a year, but it's the Simi Valley SDA church.
OOZE: your originally from ontario?
shawnboonstra: No - I'm from BC. I lived in Ontario for about 6 years when I was working for It Is Written Canada.
OOZE: I seen you on it once
shawnboonstra: Sorry about that - nobody should have to watch that!
OOZE: I did find your information informative
shawnboonstra:
shawnboonstra: I didn't think I was still on in Canada.
OOZE: ooh because it was boring??
shawnboonstra: LOL. Something like that. I vastly prefer to preach to a live audience.
shawnboonstra: TV cameras are pretty unresponsive.
OOZE: true
OOZE: If I told the SDA section Iwas typing to you they would never believe it
shawnboonstra: Hm. What kind of proof could I offer?
OOZE: a picture with a note I know Jonathan lol
shawnboonstra: LOL.
OOZE: nah Im ok with keeping your confidences
shawnboonstra: Listen - I've got to teach a class early in the morning, and I need to get ready. I'm away for a couple of weeks after that - and get back around the 8th of January. If you want to talk after that, I can give you an email address.
OOZE: ok sure Emails are like video cameras
shawnboonstra: How so?
OOZE: do you check it quite often
shawnboonstra: I do - but I won't be checking it until January 7th or 8th.
OOZE: my brother in Christ I thank you today for humbling me Iwas praying for an experience
shawnboonstra: I'm taking off with my family - no computers.
shawnboonstra: You can reach me after January 7 at .....
shawnboonstra: It's a private email address.
shawnboonstra: We can always arrange another chat!
shawnboonstra: Have a great evening, Jonathan! I'm convinced that God has something great in mind for you.
OOZE: ok I wont give it to anyone
OOZE:
OOZE: pray that GOD blesses me with humility and finacial freedome
shawnboonstra: I've already started praying for you.
OOZE: thanks I have th4 best prayer partner I could ask for
OOZE: ;
shawnboonstra: Consider it done. I've got to run. Make sure you say hi to your pastor for me. And we'll talk again in January.
OOZE: even if hes a bit confident lots of practice im sure
OOZE: ok bye bye
shawnboonstra: Got an email address? (If you're not comfortable with that, that's ok.)
OOZE: runnyooze@yahoo.com
shawnboonstra: Of course.
OOZE:
OOZE: they have the best spamguard
shawnboonstra: Catch you later. God bless.
OOZE: GOD bless lets start my new walk with humility
shawnboonstra has signed out. (12/19/2007 11:30 PM)
OOZE: Praise you Father
